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I think I finally got an ID on my Grandfathers Boat. Ever heard of a
Waymouth?. An older fishing charter Captain down the Lake from me ID'd
it. Dont know if it's positive, but he swears that's what it is.
Gonna do a google on it, and see if I get a hit.

S.

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I think I finally got an ID on my Grandfathers Boat. Ever heard of a
Waymouth?. An older fishing charter Captain down the Lake from me ID'd
it. Dont know if it's positive, but he swears that's what it is.
Gonna do a google on it, and see if I get a hit.



Can't say I have.
Is it spelled Waymouth or Weymouth? S.

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On May 6, 9:28*am, "Don White" wrote:
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I think I finally got an ID on my Grandfathers Boat. Ever heard of a
Waymouth?. An older fishing charter Captain down the Lake from me ID'd
it. Dont know if it's positive, but he swears that's what it is.
Gonna do a google on it, and see if I get a hit.

Can't say I have.
Is it spelled Waymouth or Weymouth? * * * * * * * * * * * *S.

I think he spelled it Waymouth, but I'll check in the other forum.

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I think I finally got an ID on my Grandfathers Boat. Ever heard of a
Waymouth?. An older fishing charter Captain down the Lake from me ID'd
it. Dont know if it's positive, but he swears that's what it is.
Gonna do a google on it, and see if I get a hit.



Can't say I have.
Is it spelled Waymouth or Weymouth? S.

The Brits have a bad habit of misspelling many words.

Eisboch

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On May 6, 9:28*am, "Don White" wrote:
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I think I finally got an ID on my Grandfathers Boat. Ever heard of a
Waymouth?. An older fishing charter Captain down the Lake from me ID'd
it. Dont know if it's positive, but he swears that's what it is.
Gonna do a google on it, and see if I get a hit.

Can't say I have.
Is it spelled Waymouth or Weymouth? * * * * * * * * * * * *S.

Looks like its Weymouth, but I cant find any pics of that year of boat.

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On May 6, 10:34*am, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message

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wrote in message
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I think I finally got an ID on my Grandfathers Boat. Ever heard of a
Waymouth?. An older fishing charter Captain down the Lake from me ID'd
it. Dont know if it's positive, but he swears that's what it is.
Gonna do a google on it, and see if I get a hit.

Can't say I have.
Is it spelled Waymouth or Weymouth? * * * * * * * * * * * *S.

The Brits have a bad habit of misspelling many words.

Eisboch

Possibly, but it wasn't a Brit who revealed the make to me.......

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"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"Don White" wrote in message
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wrote in message
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I think I finally got an ID on my Grandfathers Boat. Ever heard of a
Waymouth?. An older fishing charter Captain down the Lake from me ID'd
it. Dont know if it's positive, but he swears that's what it is.
Gonna do a google on it, and see if I get a hit.



Can't say I have.
Is it spelled Waymouth or Weymouth? S.

The Brits have a bad habit of misspelling many words.

Eisboch

I happen to know that you also have a Weymouth in MA. (we have one here in
NS of course).
A future professional hockey player named Bobby Sheehan, who was in my grade
12 class when he played his junior hockey here, came from there.

As a matter of fact, I believe our village got it's name from the Loyalists
who left Mass in the mid 1700s when the ungrateful rabble was acting up..
http://www.weymouthnovascotia.com/

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On May 6, 10:34 am, "Eisboch" wrote:
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wrote in message
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I think I finally got an ID on my Grandfathers Boat. Ever heard of a
Waymouth?. An older fishing charter Captain down the Lake from me ID'd
it. Dont know if it's positive, but he swears that's what it is.
Gonna do a google on it, and see if I get a hit.

Can't say I have.
Is it spelled Waymouth or Weymouth? S.

The Brits have a bad habit of misspelling many words.

Eisboch

Possibly, but it wasn't a Brit who revealed the make to me.......

************************************************** *******

Seems to be a few boats with that brandname for sale.
http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/category/type/Weymouth

I noticed that a 1988/89 model was built by HALMATIC IN GOSPORT and desgined
by Nurray McCormack and Associates
I imagine your boat is a lot older than that.
An older 1970 model claimed.....
Builder/Designer


Builder: weymouth

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On May 6, 11:00*am, "Don White" wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message

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"Don White" wrote in message
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wrote in message
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I think I finally got an ID on my Grandfathers Boat. Ever heard of a
Waymouth?. An older fishing charter Captain down the Lake from me ID'd
it. Dont know if it's positive, but he swears that's what it is.
Gonna do a google on it, and see if I get a hit.

Can't say I have.
Is it spelled Waymouth or Weymouth? * * * * * * * * * * * *S.

The Brits have a bad habit of misspelling many words.

Eisboch

I happen to know that you also have a Weymouth in MA. *(we have one here in
NS of course).
A future professional hockey player named Bobby Sheehan, who was in my grade
12 class when he played his junior hockey here, came from there.

As a matter of fact, I believe our village got it's name from the Loyalists
who left Mass in the mid 1700s when the ungrateful rabble was acting up..http://www.weymouthnovascotia.com/

I have a Family Tree tracing my Ancestors back to the 1600's. They
left Virginia when the rabble started acting up. They were one of the
first 20 Familys to settle the Niagara Region. Fought with Brock
against the Americans in the Battle of Queenston Heights.And a direct
relation of mine was the Lady who informed the Brits of the impending
attack by the Americans...... Any guess on who that is? If you know
Canadian History, you'll know who I'm referring to.

Ping : Don White
 

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I have a Family Tree tracing my Ancestors back to the 1600's. They
left Virginia when the rabble started acting up. They were one of the
first 20 Familys to settle the Niagara Region. Fought with Brock
against the Americans in the Battle of Queenston Heights.And a direct
relation of mine was the Lady who informed the Brits of the impending
attack by the Americans...... Any guess on who that is? If you know
Canadian History, you'll know who I'm referring to.

-----------------------------------

Hillary Clinton's great grandmother?

Eisboch

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On May 6, 11:12*am, "Don White" wrote:
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On May 6, 10:34 am, "Eisboch" wrote:



"Don White" wrote in message

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wrote in message
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I think I finally got an ID on my Grandfathers Boat. Ever heard of a
Waymouth?. An older fishing charter Captain down the Lake from me ID'd
it. Dont know if it's positive, but he swears that's what it is.
Gonna do a google on it, and see if I get a hit.

Can't say I have.
Is it spelled Waymouth or Weymouth? S.

The Brits have a bad habit of misspelling many words.

Eisboch

Possibly, but it wasn't a Brit who revealed the make to me.......

************************************************** *******

Seems to be a few boats with that brandname for sale.http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/category/type/Weymouth

I noticed that a 1988/89 model was built by HALMATIC IN GOSPORT and desgined
by Nurray McCormack and Associates
I imagine your boat is a lot older than that.
An older 1970 model claimed.....
Builder/Designer

* * * Builder: weymouth

The picture was dated July 1964. I was only 4 then. I think its a 50's
model, but cant find any info yet on the model. Grandad passed in 65
while working on the Wood Wheel for the boat.
My Grandfather was in BOTH wars. A Sargent in WW1 in the Signal
Corps.He was at Vimy Ridge. Those are the fellows that strung the
communication lines from the front back. In WW2, he re-enlisted, but
wasn't given a Combative role. He was promoted to Captain, and was a
Paymaster. He got to ride around in a side-car Harley (or maybe BMW )
motorcycle to the front to pay the boys who were fighting.
Another interesting fact. My Father was a Navigator in WW2 in a
Lancaster Bomber. One day, while taxi-ing to go up, he realized he had
forgotten his Chart Bag. The Pilot, a Mr Poslove, radioed the tower,
and they swung out of the line to circle into the end while my Dad was
rushed in a Harley Side-Car to the Barracks. Dad had to jump out the
side door while the plane was still rolling. The old man told me he
barely had time to get his ass in the sidecar when the guy took off
like a bat-outta-hell across the tarmack to get it. He thought they
must've been doing 70.
Their plane was initially 4th in line. After the fact, it was last in
line. The Pilot was mad as hell, BUT....the first 5 planes never made
it back.
Funny how fate is.

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On May 6, 11:12 am, "Don White" wrote:
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On May 6, 10:34 am, "Eisboch" wrote:



"Don White" wrote in message

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wrote in message
...
I think I finally got an ID on my Grandfathers Boat. Ever heard of a
Waymouth?. An older fishing charter Captain down the Lake from me
ID'd
it. Dont know if it's positive, but he swears that's what it is.
Gonna do a google on it, and see if I get a hit.

Can't say I have.
Is it spelled Waymouth or Weymouth? S.

The Brits have a bad habit of misspelling many words.

Eisboch

Possibly, but it wasn't a Brit who revealed the make to me.......

************************************************** *******

Seems to be a few boats with that brandname for
sale.http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/category/type/Weymouth

I noticed that a 1988/89 model was built by HALMATIC IN GOSPORT and
desgined
by Nurray McCormack and Associates
I imagine your boat is a lot older than that.
An older 1970 model claimed.....
Builder/Designer

Builder: weymouth

The picture was dated July 1964. I was only 4 then. I think its a 50's
model, but cant find any info yet on the model. Grandad passed in 65
while working on the Wood Wheel for the boat.
My Grandfather was in BOTH wars. A Sargent in WW1 in the Signal
Corps.He was at Vimy Ridge. Those are the fellows that strung the
communication lines from the front back. In WW2, he re-enlisted, but
wasn't given a Combative role. He was promoted to Captain, and was a
Paymaster. He got to ride around in a side-car Harley (or maybe BMW )
motorcycle to the front to pay the boys who were fighting.
Another interesting fact. My Father was a Navigator in WW2 in a
Lancaster Bomber. One day, while taxi-ing to go up, he realized he had
forgotten his Chart Bag. The Pilot, a Mr Poslove, radioed the tower,
and they swung out of the line to circle into the end while my Dad was
rushed in a Harley Side-Car to the Barracks. Dad had to jump out the
side door while the plane was still rolling. The old man told me he
barely had time to get his ass in the sidecar when the guy took off
like a bat-outta-hell across the tarmack to get it. He thought they
must've been doing 70.
Their plane was initially 4th in line. After the fact, it was last in
line. The Pilot was mad as hell, BUT....the first 5 planes never made
it back.
Funny how fate is.

************************************************** ***

That's quite a story.
His Guardian Angel must have been looking after him that day.

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On May 6, 11:00 am, "Don White" wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message

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"Don White" wrote in message
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wrote in message
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I think I finally got an ID on my Grandfathers Boat. Ever heard of a
Waymouth?. An older fishing charter Captain down the Lake from me ID'd
it. Dont know if it's positive, but he swears that's what it is.
Gonna do a google on it, and see if I get a hit.

Can't say I have.
Is it spelled Waymouth or Weymouth? S.

The Brits have a bad habit of misspelling many words.

Eisboch

I happen to know that you also have a Weymouth in MA. (we have one here in
NS of course).
A future professional hockey player named Bobby Sheehan, who was in my
grade
12 class when he played his junior hockey here, came from there.

As a matter of fact, I believe our village got it's name from the
Loyalists
who left Mass in the mid 1700s when the ungrateful rabble was acting
up..http://www.weymouthnovascotia.com/

I have a Family Tree tracing my Ancestors back to the 1600's. They
left Virginia when the rabble started acting up. They were one of the
first 20 Familys to settle the Niagara Region. Fought with Brock
against the Americans in the Battle of Queenston Heights.And a direct
relation of mine was the Lady who informed the Brits of the impending
attack by the Americans...... Any guess on who that is? If you know
Canadian History, you'll know who I'm referring to.

************************************************** ******

Sure do...she made (makes?) some fine chocolates. ;-)

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Don White wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"Don White" wrote in message
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wrote in message
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I think I finally got an ID on my Grandfathers Boat. Ever heard of a
Waymouth?. An older fishing charter Captain down the Lake from me ID'd
it. Dont know if it's positive, but he swears that's what it is.
Gonna do a google on it, and see if I get a hit.


Can't say I have.
Is it spelled Waymouth or Weymouth? S.
The Brits have a bad habit of misspelling many words.

Eisboch

I happen to know that you also have a Weymouth in MA. (we have one here in
NS of course).
A future professional hockey player named Bobby Sheehan, who was in my grade
12 class when he played his junior hockey here, came from there.

As a matter of fact, I believe our village got it's name from the Loyalists
who left Mass in the mid 1700s when the ungrateful rabble was acting up..
http://www.weymouthnovascotia.com/


My gawd. You sure do know your geography.
And when it came time to fight for what's right, the pansies ran north.

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wrote in message
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On May 6, 11:00 am, "Don White" wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message

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"Don White" wrote in message
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wrote in message
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I think I finally got an ID on my Grandfathers Boat. Ever heard of a
Waymouth?. An older fishing charter Captain down the Lake from me ID'd
it. Dont know if it's positive, but he swears that's what it is.
Gonna do a google on it, and see if I get a hit.

Can't say I have.
Is it spelled Waymouth or Weymouth? S.

The Brits have a bad habit of misspelling many words.

Eisboch

I happen to know that you also have a Weymouth in MA. (we have one here in
NS of course).
A future professional hockey player named Bobby Sheehan, who was in my
grade
12 class when he played his junior hockey here, came from there.

As a matter of fact, I believe our village got it's name from the
Loyalists
who left Mass in the mid 1700s when the ungrateful rabble was acting
up..http://www.weymouthnovascotia.com/

I have a Family Tree tracing my Ancestors back to the 1600's. They
left Virginia when the rabble started acting up. They were one of the
first 20 Familys to settle the Niagara Region. Fought with Brock
against the Americans in the Battle of Queenston Heights.And a direct
relation of mine was the Lady who informed the Brits of the impending
attack by the Americans...... Any guess on who that is? If you know
Canadian History, you'll know who I'm referring to.

************************************************** *****************************

Just in case anyone here doesn't know of her...
http://www.laurasecord.ca/history.php

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laura_Secord

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On May 6, 12:58*pm, jim78565 wrote:
Don White wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message
m...
"Don White" wrote in message
.. .
wrote in message
....
I think I finally got an ID on my Grandfathers Boat. Ever heard of a
Waymouth?. An older fishing charter Captain down the Lake from me ID'd
it. Dont know if it's positive, but he swears that's what it is.
Gonna do a google on it, and see if I get a hit.

Can't say I have.
Is it spelled Waymouth or Weymouth? * * * * * * * * * * * *S.
The Brits have a bad habit of misspelling many words.

Eisboch

I happen to know that you also have a Weymouth in MA. *(we have one here in
NS of course).
A future professional hockey player named Bobby Sheehan, who was in my grade
12 class when he played his junior hockey here, came from there.

As a matter of fact, I believe our village got it's name from the Loyalists
who left Mass in the mid 1700s when the ungrateful rabble was acting up...
http://www.weymouthnovascotia.com/

My gawd. You sure do know your geography.
And when it came time to fight for what's right, the pansies ran north.- Hide quoted text -

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What's funny in all of this, is this is a classic example OF slammer,
FOR slammer. Notice that no one has come and started trashing his
family, yet I guarantee if it was the other way around, slammer would
be here being vulgar and low life.

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"jim78565" wrote in message
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Don White wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"Don White" wrote in message
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wrote in message
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I think I finally got an ID on my Grandfathers Boat. Ever heard of a
Waymouth?. An older fishing charter Captain down the Lake from me ID'd
it. Dont know if it's positive, but he swears that's what it is.
Gonna do a google on it, and see if I get a hit.


Can't say I have.
Is it spelled Waymouth or Weymouth? S.
The Brits have a bad habit of misspelling many words.

Eisboch

I happen to know that you also have a Weymouth in MA. (we have one here
in NS of course).
A future professional hockey player named Bobby Sheehan, who was in my
grade 12 class when he played his junior hockey here, came from there.

As a matter of fact, I believe our village got it's name from the
Loyalists who left Mass in the mid 1700s when the ungrateful rabble was
acting up..
http://www.weymouthnovascotia.com/
My gawd. You sure do know your geography.
And when it came time to fight for what's right, the pansies ran north.

What's the matter...?
You still sore from your navy days when someone sabotaged you by putting
sand in your Vasoline?

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Don White wrote:
"jim78565" wrote in message
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Don White wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"Don White" wrote in message
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wrote in message
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I think I finally got an ID on my Grandfathers Boat. Ever heard of a
Waymouth?. An older fishing charter Captain down the Lake from me ID'd
it. Dont know if it's positive, but he swears that's what it is.
Gonna do a google on it, and see if I get a hit.


Can't say I have.
Is it spelled Waymouth or Weymouth? S.
The Brits have a bad habit of misspelling many words.

Eisboch
I happen to know that you also have a Weymouth in MA. (we have one here
in NS of course).
A future professional hockey player named Bobby Sheehan, who was in my
grade 12 class when he played his junior hockey here, came from there.

As a matter of fact, I believe our village got it's name from the
Loyalists who left Mass in the mid 1700s when the ungrateful rabble was
acting up..
http://www.weymouthnovascotia.com/
My gawd. You sure do know your geography.
And when it came time to fight for what's right, the pansies ran north.

What's the matter...?
You still sore from your navy days when someone sabotaged you by putting
sand in your Vasoline?


If it wasn't for the proud and courageous separatists, You'd still be
curtsying to the Queen. Oh wait! You still do.
Down here we show respect a different way. Give her a pat on the butt
and a couple of CDs and we're good. You can't say we don't have class.

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Don White wrote:
"jim78565" wrote in message
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Don White wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"Don White" wrote in message
...
wrote in message
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I think I finally got an ID on my Grandfathers Boat. Ever heard of a
Waymouth?. An older fishing charter Captain down the Lake from me ID'd
it. Dont know if it's positive, but he swears that's what it is.
Gonna do a google on it, and see if I get a hit.


Can't say I have.
Is it spelled Waymouth or Weymouth? S.
The Brits have a bad habit of misspelling many words.

Eisboch
I happen to know that you also have a Weymouth in MA. (we have one here
in NS of course).
A future professional hockey player named Bobby Sheehan, who was in my
grade 12 class when he played his junior hockey here, came from there.

As a matter of fact, I believe our village got it's name from the
Loyalists who left Mass in the mid 1700s when the ungrateful rabble was
acting up..
http://www.weymouthnovascotia.com/
My gawd. You sure do know your geography.
And when it came time to fight for what's right, the pansies ran north.

What's the matter...?
You still sore from your navy days when someone sabotaged you by putting
sand in your Vasoline?



You sure have some oblique "penpals." Is SepticTank FloridaJim referring
to U.S. males who headed north during the war against Vietnam so they
wouldn't have to bomb or shoot women, children and villages in order to
protect Topeka, Kansas, from an invasion by the Viet Cong?

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On May 6, 2:21*pm, HK wrote:
Don White wrote:
"jim78565" wrote in message
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Don White wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"Don White" wrote in message
...
wrote in message
...
I think I finally got an ID on my Grandfathers Boat. Ever heard of a
Waymouth?. An older fishing charter Captain down the Lake from me ID'd
it. Dont know if it's positive, but he swears that's what it is.
Gonna do a google on it, and see if I get a hit.

Can't say I have.
Is it spelled Waymouth or Weymouth? * * * * * * * * * * * *S.
The Brits have a bad habit of misspelling many words.

Eisboch
I happen to know that you also have a Weymouth in MA. *(we have one here
in NS of course).
A future professional hockey player named Bobby Sheehan, who was in my
grade 12 class when he played his junior hockey here, came from there..

As a matter of fact, I believe our village got it's name from the
Loyalists who left Mass in the mid 1700s when the ungrateful rabble was
acting up..
http://www.weymouthnovascotia.com/
My gawd. You sure do know your geography.
And when it came time to fight for what's right, the pansies ran north..

What's the matter...?
You still sore from your navy days when someone sabotaged you by putting
sand in your Vasoline?

You sure have some oblique "penpals." Is SepticTank FloridaJim referring
to U.S. males who headed north during the war against Vietnam so they
wouldn't have to bomb or shoot women, children and villages in order to
protect Topeka, Kansas, from an invasion by the Viet Cong?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Yeah, that happened in the 1600's when slammer's family left Virginia,
dumb ass.

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"HK" wrote in message
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You sure have some oblique "penpals." Is SepticTank FloridaJim referring
to U.S. males who headed north during the war against Vietnam so they
wouldn't have to bomb or shoot women, children and villages in order to
protect Topeka, Kansas, from an invasion by the Viet Cong?



Horsepuckey.

By far, the majority that fled did so because they didn't want to expose
themselves to any danger or felt they could pick and choose their
constitutional obligations.
Lot's of stories made up, but those are the real reasons. I lived it, as
did you. Let's not re-write history to serve your purpose.

True conscientious objectors stayed and made their cases. Some won and some
lost. Those that lost paid their dues in other ways. They deserve
respect.

Eisboch

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HK wrote:
Don White wrote:
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Don White wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"Don White" wrote in message
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I think I finally got an ID on my Grandfathers Boat. Ever heard of a
Waymouth?. An older fishing charter Captain down the Lake from me
ID'd
it. Dont know if it's positive, but he swears that's what it is.
Gonna do a google on it, and see if I get a hit.


Can't say I have.
Is it spelled Waymouth or Weymouth? S.
The Brits have a bad habit of misspelling many words.

Eisboch
I happen to know that you also have a Weymouth in MA. (we have one
here in NS of course).
A future professional hockey player named Bobby Sheehan, who was in
my grade 12 class when he played his junior hockey here, came from
there.

As a matter of fact, I believe our village got it's name from the
Loyalists who left Mass in the mid 1700s when the ungrateful rabble
was acting up..
http://www.weymouthnovascotia.com/
My gawd. You sure do know your geography.
And when it came time to fight for what's right, the pansies ran north.

What's the matter...?
You still sore from your navy days when someone sabotaged you by
putting sand in your Vasoline?


You sure have some oblique "penpals." Is SepticTank FloridaJim referring
to U.S. males who headed north during the war against Vietnam so they
wouldn't have to bomb or shoot women, children and villages in order to
protect Topeka, Kansas, from an invasion by the Viet Cong?


No dimwit we were talking about the revolution. Is your brain stuck in
the vietnam Bush groove. Jump ahead a little, donkey breath, and we can
talk about Obama's wars. Who knows. Maybe he can invade a few more
countries and escalate it into WW3.

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"jim78565" wrote in message
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HK wrote:

You sure have some oblique "penpals." Is SepticTank FloridaJim referring
to U.S. males who headed north during the war against Vietnam so they
wouldn't have to bomb or shoot women, children and villages in order to
protect Topeka, Kansas, from an invasion by the Viet Cong?


No dimwit we were talking about the revolution. Is your brain stuck in the
vietnam Bush groove. Jump ahead a little, donkey breath, and we can talk
about Obama's wars. Who knows. Maybe he can invade a few more countries
and escalate it into WW3.



Which brings up one of the reasons Obama and his legal beagles don't want to
pursue legal proceedings against anyone in the Bush administration.

The issue of authorizing Predator bombing raids within Pakistan and the
unfortunate killing of innocents in the process has already raised the issue
of war crime charges against him.

Talk is cheap and easy during a campaign. Decisions as the
Commander-in-Chief are not so simple.

Eisboch

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Eisboch wrote:

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m...


You sure have some oblique "penpals." Is SepticTank FloridaJim
referring to U.S. males who headed north during the war against
Vietnam so they wouldn't have to bomb or shoot women, children and
villages in order to protect Topeka, Kansas, from an invasion by the
Viet Cong?



Horsepuckey.

By far, the majority that fled did so because they didn't want to expose
themselves to any danger or felt they could pick and choose their
constitutional obligations.
Lot's of stories made up, but those are the real reasons. I lived it,
as did you. Let's not re-write history to serve your purpose.

True conscientious objectors stayed and made their cases. Some won and
some lost. Those that lost paid their dues in other ways. They
deserve respect.

Eisboch


My "take" on the war against vietnam is a lot stronger than the view I
presented, which I heard from more than a few contemporaries.

Sometimes the real reasons and history of why nations get themselves
involved in wars fade out of consciousness. They sure have for Vietnam.

I think we are getting ourselves deeper and deeper in the crap in
Afghanistan and Pakistan. Modern foreign occupiers/invaders have not had
a lot of success dealing with Afghanistan. Pakistan is a horror of a
whole different magnitude because of its nuclear weapons. What *we* are
supposed to do with either of these failed countries is beyond my
understanding. Neither of the governments of those countries have the
ability to withstand religious zealots. Hell, Pakistan was founded by
religious zealots.

When we finally leave Iraq, whenever that is, it, too, will slide back
into failed nation status, ripe for the plucking by the religious zealots.

Ping : Don White
 

Eisboch wrote:

"jim78565" wrote in message
...

HK wrote:

You sure have some oblique "penpals." Is SepticTank FloridaJim
referring to U.S. males who headed north during the war against
Vietnam so they wouldn't have to bomb or shoot women, children and
villages in order to protect Topeka, Kansas, from an invasion by the
Viet Cong?


No dimwit we were talking about the revolution. Is your brain stuck in
the vietnam Bush groove. Jump ahead a little, donkey breath, and we
can talk about Obama's wars. Who knows. Maybe he can invade a few more
countries and escalate it into WW3.



Which brings up one of the reasons Obama and his legal beagles don't
want to pursue legal proceedings against anyone in the Bush administration.

The issue of authorizing Predator bombing raids within Pakistan and the
unfortunate killing of innocents in the process has already raised the
issue of war crime charges against him.

Talk is cheap and easy during a campaign. Decisions as the
Commander-in-Chief are not so simple.

Eisboch

It's too bad, then, that we had such a simpleton as CiC the last eight
years.

Ping : Don White
 

"HK" wrote in message
...
Eisboch wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
m...


You sure have some oblique "penpals." Is SepticTank FloridaJim referring
to U.S. males who headed north during the war against Vietnam so they
wouldn't have to bomb or shoot women, children and villages in order to
protect Topeka, Kansas, from an invasion by the Viet Cong?



Horsepuckey.

By far, the majority that fled did so because they didn't want to expose
themselves to any danger or felt they could pick and choose their
constitutional obligations.
Lot's of stories made up, but those are the real reasons. I lived it, as
did you. Let's not re-write history to serve your purpose.

True conscientious objectors stayed and made their cases. Some won and
some lost. Those that lost paid their dues in other ways. They deserve
respect.

Eisboch


My "take" on the war against vietnam is a lot stronger than the view I
presented, which I heard from more than a few contemporaries.

Sometimes the real reasons and history of why nations get themselves
involved in wars fade out of consciousness. They sure have for Vietnam.




"Reasons" then and now are two entirely different things. When pressed for
a decision, you have to act on the information you have at the time. I
don't find fault with anyone who does so in good faith, even if they are
found to be in error in history's hindsight.



I think we are getting ourselves deeper and deeper in the crap in
Afghanistan and Pakistan. Modern foreign occupiers/invaders have not had a
lot of success dealing with Afghanistan. Pakistan is a horror of a whole
different magnitude because of its nuclear weapons. What *we* are supposed
to do with either of these failed countries is beyond my understanding.
Neither of the governments of those countries have the ability to
withstand religious zealots. Hell, Pakistan was founded by religious
zealots.

When we finally leave Iraq, whenever that is, it, too, will slide back
into failed nation status, ripe for the plucking by the religious zealots.


I agree with you and am not critical of Obama's actions thus far in
Pakistan.
It's a serious problem and a real risk to our national security and that of
our allies.
I wouldn't want his job. But my point was that few of these problems are
really as simple as the Monday morning quarterbacks make them out to be.

Eisboch

Ping : Don White
 

HK wrote:
Eisboch wrote:

"jim78565" wrote in message
...

HK wrote:

You sure have some oblique "penpals." Is SepticTank FloridaJim
referring to U.S. males who headed north during the war against
Vietnam so they wouldn't have to bomb or shoot women, children and
villages in order to protect Topeka, Kansas, from an invasion by the
Viet Cong?


No dimwit we were talking about the revolution. Is your brain stuck
in the vietnam Bush groove. Jump ahead a little, donkey breath, and
we can talk about Obama's wars. Who knows. Maybe he can invade a few
more countries and escalate it into WW3.



Which brings up one of the reasons Obama and his legal beagles don't
want to pursue legal proceedings against anyone in the Bush
administration.

The issue of authorizing Predator bombing raids within Pakistan and
the unfortunate killing of innocents in the process has already raised
the issue of war crime charges against him.

Talk is cheap and easy during a campaign. Decisions as the
Commander-in-Chief are not so simple.

Eisboch

It's too bad, then, that we had such a simpleton as CiC the last eight
years.

Your whiz kid isn't doing any better. Too bad we can't go back to George
the 1st, maybe even Reagan, and start over.

Ping : Don White
 

On Wed, 06 May 2009 14:55:51 -0400, Eisboch wrote:


"Reasons" then and now are two entirely different things. When pressed
for a decision, you have to act on the information you have at the time.
I don't find fault with anyone who does so in good faith, even if they
are found to be in error in history's hindsight.

Except when going to war, you had better be damned sure. "Whoops, sorry",
doesn't cut it to the dead.

Ping : Don White
 

On Wed, 06 May 2009 14:27:22 -0500, thunder
wrote:

On Wed, 06 May 2009 14:55:51 -0400, Eisboch wrote:


"Reasons" then and now are two entirely different things. When pressed
for a decision, you have to act on the information you have at the time.
I don't find fault with anyone who does so in good faith, even if they
are found to be in error in history's hindsight.

Except when going to war, you had better be damned sure. "Whoops, sorry",
doesn't cut it to the dead.

It's was vomit inducing to hear the former administration use the
"finish the job" excuse in order to honor those who "paid the ultimate
price."

Finishing the job in this case would be to uphold the law so that
others don't have to pay the ultimate price for lawbreaking liars.

Ping : Don White
 

"HK" wrote in message
m...
Don White wrote:
"jim78565" wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"Don White" wrote in message
...
wrote in message
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I think I finally got an ID on my Grandfathers Boat. Ever heard of a
Waymouth?. An older fishing charter Captain down the Lake from me
ID'd
it. Dont know if it's positive, but he swears that's what it is.
Gonna do a google on it, and see if I get a hit.


Can't say I have.
Is it spelled Waymouth or Weymouth? S.
The Brits have a bad habit of misspelling many words.

Eisboch
I happen to know that you also have a Weymouth in MA. (we have one
here in NS of course).
A future professional hockey player named Bobby Sheehan, who was in my
grade 12 class when he played his junior hockey here, came from there.

As a matter of fact, I believe our village got it's name from the
Loyalists who left Mass in the mid 1700s when the ungrateful rabble was
acting up..
http://www.weymouthnovascotia.com/
My gawd. You sure do know your geography.
And when it came time to fight for what's right, the pansies ran north.

What's the matter...?
You still sore from your navy days when someone sabotaged you by putting
sand in your Vasoline?

You sure have some oblique "penpals." Is SepticTank FloridaJim referring
to U.S. males who headed north during the war against Vietnam so they
wouldn't have to bomb or shoot women, children and villages in order to
protect Topeka, Kansas, from an invasion by the Viet Cong?


I think he's buried way back further in the past......to the United Empire
Loyalists who remained loyal to the King.
Most gave up all they had to re-settle up here. My maternal grandmothers'
family came up from New York after the revolution.
We probably have a legtimate claim to a tiny piece of Harlem....

Ping : Don White
 

Don White wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
m...
Don White wrote:
"jim78565" wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message
...
"Don White" wrote in message
...
wrote in message
...
I think I finally got an ID on my Grandfathers Boat. Ever heard of a
Waymouth?. An older fishing charter Captain down the Lake from me
ID'd
it. Dont know if it's positive, but he swears that's what it is.
Gonna do a google on it, and see if I get a hit.


Can't say I have.
Is it spelled Waymouth or Weymouth? S.
The Brits have a bad habit of misspelling many words.

Eisboch
I happen to know that you also have a Weymouth in MA. (we have one
here in NS of course).
A future professional hockey player named Bobby Sheehan, who was in my
grade 12 class when he played his junior hockey here, came from there.

As a matter of fact, I believe our village got it's name from the
Loyalists who left Mass in the mid 1700s when the ungrateful rabble was
acting up..
http://www.weymouthnovascotia.com/
My gawd. You sure do know your geography.
And when it came time to fight for what's right, the pansies ran north.

What's the matter...?
You still sore from your navy days when someone sabotaged you by putting
sand in your Vasoline?
You sure have some oblique "penpals." Is SepticTank FloridaJim referring
to U.S. males who headed north during the war against Vietnam so they
wouldn't have to bomb or shoot women, children and villages in order to
protect Topeka, Kansas, from an invasion by the Viet Cong?


I think he's buried way back further in the past......to the United Empire
Loyalists who remained loyal to the King.
Most gave up all they had to re-settle up here. My maternal grandmothers'
family came up from New York after the revolution.
We probably have a legtimate claim to a tiny piece of Harlem....




Ahh. Perhaps you can outline for us how Canada and Canadians have
suffered the last 100 years or so by maintaining ties to England.

Ping : Don White
 

"HK" wrote in message
m...
Don White wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
m...
Don White wrote:
"jim78565" wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message
...
"Don White" wrote in message
...
wrote in message
...
I think I finally got an ID on my Grandfathers Boat. Ever heard of
a
Waymouth?. An older fishing charter Captain down the Lake from me
ID'd
it. Dont know if it's positive, but he swears that's what it is.
Gonna do a google on it, and see if I get a hit.


Can't say I have.
Is it spelled Waymouth or Weymouth? S.
The Brits have a bad habit of misspelling many words.

Eisboch
I happen to know that you also have a Weymouth in MA. (we have one
here in NS of course).
A future professional hockey player named Bobby Sheehan, who was in
my grade 12 class when he played his junior hockey here, came from
there.

As a matter of fact, I believe our village got it's name from the
Loyalists who left Mass in the mid 1700s when the ungrateful rabble
was acting up..
http://www.weymouthnovascotia.com/
My gawd. You sure do know your geography.
And when it came time to fight for what's right, the pansies ran
north.

What's the matter...?
You still sore from your navy days when someone sabotaged you by
putting sand in your Vasoline?
You sure have some oblique "penpals." Is SepticTank FloridaJim referring
to U.S. males who headed north during the war against Vietnam so they
wouldn't have to bomb or shoot women, children and villages in order to
protect Topeka, Kansas, from an invasion by the Viet Cong?


I think he's buried way back further in the past......to the United
Empire Loyalists who remained loyal to the King.
Most gave up all they had to re-settle up here. My maternal
grandmothers' family came up from New York after the revolution.
We probably have a legtimate claim to a tiny piece of Harlem....


Ahh. Perhaps you can outline for us how Canada and Canadians have suffered
the last 100 years or so by maintaining ties to England.

At one time the preferred trading status with the Commonwealth including
Great Britain meant a lot.
At this point... the questionable spending to maintain the Governor General
in Ottawa and the provincial Lt. Governors expenses as the Queens
representatives might bother a few citizens.

Ping : Don White
 

Don White wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
m...
Don White wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
m...
Don White wrote:
"jim78565" wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message
...
"Don White" wrote in message
...
wrote in message
...
I think I finally got an ID on my Grandfathers Boat. Ever heard of
a
Waymouth?. An older fishing charter Captain down the Lake from me
ID'd
it. Dont know if it's positive, but he swears that's what it is.
Gonna do a google on it, and see if I get a hit.


Can't say I have.
Is it spelled Waymouth or Weymouth? S.
The Brits have a bad habit of misspelling many words.

Eisboch
I happen to know that you also have a Weymouth in MA. (we have one
here in NS of course).
A future professional hockey player named Bobby Sheehan, who was in
my grade 12 class when he played his junior hockey here, came from
there.

As a matter of fact, I believe our village got it's name from the
Loyalists who left Mass in the mid 1700s when the ungrateful rabble
was acting up..
http://www.weymouthnovascotia.com/
My gawd. You sure do know your geography.
And when it came time to fight for what's right, the pansies ran
north.
What's the matter...?
You still sore from your navy days when someone sabotaged you by
putting sand in your Vasoline?
You sure have some oblique "penpals." Is SepticTank FloridaJim referring
to U.S. males who headed north during the war against Vietnam so they
wouldn't have to bomb or shoot women, children and villages in order to
protect Topeka, Kansas, from an invasion by the Viet Cong?

I think he's buried way back further in the past......to the United
Empire Loyalists who remained loyal to the King.
Most gave up all they had to re-settle up here. My maternal
grandmothers' family came up from New York after the revolution.
We probably have a legtimate claim to a tiny piece of Harlem....

Ahh. Perhaps you can outline for us how Canada and Canadians have suffered
the last 100 years or so by maintaining ties to England.

At one time the preferred trading status with the Commonwealth including
Great Britain meant a lot.
At this point... the questionable spending to maintain the Governor General
in Ottawa and the provincial Lt. Governors expenses as the Queens
representatives might bother a few citizens.




Yeah, but the Queen comes to visit... :)

Ping : Don White
 

"thunder" wrote in message
t...
On Wed, 06 May 2009 14:55:51 -0400, Eisboch wrote:


"Reasons" then and now are two entirely different things. When pressed
for a decision, you have to act on the information you have at the time.
I don't find fault with anyone who does so in good faith, even if they
are found to be in error in history's hindsight.

Except when going to war, you had better be damned sure. "Whoops, sorry",
doesn't cut it to the dead.


I understand your morality. Unfortunately it's not reality.

Eisboch

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"jps" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 06 May 2009 14:27:22 -0500, thunder
wrote:

On Wed, 06 May 2009 14:55:51 -0400, Eisboch wrote:


"Reasons" then and now are two entirely different things. When pressed
for a decision, you have to act on the information you have at the time.
I don't find fault with anyone who does so in good faith, even if they
are found to be in error in history's hindsight.

Except when going to war, you had better be damned sure. "Whoops, sorry",
doesn't cut it to the dead.

It's was vomit inducing to hear the former administration use the
"finish the job" excuse in order to honor those who "paid the ultimate
price."

Finishing the job in this case would be to uphold the law so that
others don't have to pay the ultimate price for lawbreaking liars.


I am very thankful that I never had to rely on you to watch my back.
That's not an insult. It's reality. You are better off doing whatever it
is you do and having the right to think whatever you think and so am I.

Eisboch

Ping : Don White
 

"HK" wrote in message
m...
Don White wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
m...
Don White wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
m...
Don White wrote:
"jim78565" wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message
...
"Don White" wrote in message
...
wrote in message
...
I think I finally got an ID on my Grandfathers Boat. Ever heard
of a
Waymouth?. An older fishing charter Captain down the Lake from
me ID'd
it. Dont know if it's positive, but he swears that's what it is.
Gonna do a google on it, and see if I get a hit.


Can't say I have.
Is it spelled Waymouth or Weymouth? S.
The Brits have a bad habit of misspelling many words.

Eisboch
I happen to know that you also have a Weymouth in MA. (we have one
here in NS of course).
A future professional hockey player named Bobby Sheehan, who was in
my grade 12 class when he played his junior hockey here, came from
there.

As a matter of fact, I believe our village got it's name from the
Loyalists who left Mass in the mid 1700s when the ungrateful rabble
was acting up..
http://www.weymouthnovascotia.com/
My gawd. You sure do know your geography.
And when it came time to fight for what's right, the pansies ran
north.
What's the matter...?
You still sore from your navy days when someone sabotaged you by
putting sand in your Vasoline?
You sure have some oblique "penpals." Is SepticTank FloridaJim
referring to U.S. males who headed north during the war against
Vietnam so they wouldn't have to bomb or shoot women, children and
villages in order to protect Topeka, Kansas, from an invasion by the
Viet Cong?

I think he's buried way back further in the past......to the United
Empire Loyalists who remained loyal to the King.
Most gave up all they had to re-settle up here. My maternal
grandmothers' family came up from New York after the revolution.
We probably have a legtimate claim to a tiny piece of Harlem....

Ahh. Perhaps you can outline for us how Canada and Canadians have
suffered the last 100 years or so by maintaining ties to England.

At one time the preferred trading status with the Commonwealth including
Great Britain meant a lot.
At this point... the questionable spending to maintain the Governor
General in Ottawa and the provincial Lt. Governors expenses as the Queens
representatives might bother a few citizens.


Yeah, but the Queen comes to visit... :)

I can remember getting excited about that as a kid.
We lived one city block from the Lt Governers House and the motorcade was
always coming or going during Royal visits.
You have a 'Queen' of your own down there in Connecticut............ be it a
short, ponytailed version.

Ping : Don White
 

On Wed, 6 May 2009 17:36:53 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:


"jps" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 06 May 2009 14:27:22 -0500, thunder
wrote:

On Wed, 06 May 2009 14:55:51 -0400, Eisboch wrote:


"Reasons" then and now are two entirely different things. When pressed
for a decision, you have to act on the information you have at the time.
I don't find fault with anyone who does so in good faith, even if they
are found to be in error in history's hindsight.

Except when going to war, you had better be damned sure. "Whoops, sorry",
doesn't cut it to the dead.

It's was vomit inducing to hear the former administration use the
"finish the job" excuse in order to honor those who "paid the ultimate
price."

Finishing the job in this case would be to uphold the law so that
others don't have to pay the ultimate price for lawbreaking liars.


I am very thankful that I never had to rely on you to watch my back.
That's not an insult. It's reality. You are better off doing whatever it
is you do and having the right to think whatever you think and so am I.

Eisboch

The point was that it was a ****ty excuse to stay in Iraq. It was a
doomed escapade from the start. Bush 1 knew it and stayed out.

I'm extremely loyal and, had I been in Iraq watching anyone's back,
I'd have given the full measure of my life.

I'm damned glad that I'm not in that situation and very sorry for
those who are.

Now I want to see justice done. Those that lied us into this
catastrophe should be willing to face the full measure of what it
means to be nation of laws. It was among the things that Bush
promised us when he campaigned for the presidency.

Ping : Don White
 

On Wed, 06 May 2009 17:01:56 -0400, HK wrote:

Don White wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
m...
Don White wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
m...
Don White wrote:
"jim78565" wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message
...
"Don White" wrote in message
...
wrote in message
...
I think I finally got an ID on my Grandfathers Boat. Ever heard of
a
Waymouth?. An older fishing charter Captain down the Lake from me
ID'd
it. Dont know if it's positive, but he swears that's what it is.
Gonna do a google on it, and see if I get a hit.


Can't say I have.
Is it spelled Waymouth or Weymouth? S.
The Brits have a bad habit of misspelling many words.

Eisboch
I happen to know that you also have a Weymouth in MA. (we have one
here in NS of course).
A future professional hockey player named Bobby Sheehan, who was in
my grade 12 class when he played his junior hockey here, came from
there.

As a matter of fact, I believe our village got it's name from the
Loyalists who left Mass in the mid 1700s when the ungrateful rabble
was acting up..
http://www.weymouthnovascotia.com/
My gawd. You sure do know your geography.
And when it came time to fight for what's right, the pansies ran
north.
What's the matter...?
You still sore from your navy days when someone sabotaged you by
putting sand in your Vasoline?
You sure have some oblique "penpals." Is SepticTank FloridaJim referring
to U.S. males who headed north during the war against Vietnam so they
wouldn't have to bomb or shoot women, children and villages in order to
protect Topeka, Kansas, from an invasion by the Viet Cong?

I think he's buried way back further in the past......to the United
Empire Loyalists who remained loyal to the King.
Most gave up all they had to re-settle up here. My maternal
grandmothers' family came up from New York after the revolution.
We probably have a legtimate claim to a tiny piece of Harlem....

Ahh. Perhaps you can outline for us how Canada and Canadians have suffered
the last 100 years or so by maintaining ties to England.

At one time the preferred trading status with the Commonwealth including
Great Britain meant a lot.
At this point... the questionable spending to maintain the Governor General
in Ottawa and the provincial Lt. Governors expenses as the Queens
representatives might bother a few citizens.




Yeah, but the Queen comes to visit... :)

That's the Queen Mum to you.

Ping : Don White
 

On May 6, 11:39*am, "Eisboch" wrote:
wrote in message

...

I have a Family Tree tracing my Ancestors back to the 1600's. They
left Virginia when the rabble started acting up. They were one of the
first 20 Familys to settle the Niagara Region. Fought with Brock
against the Americans in the Battle of Queenston Heights.And a direct
relation of mine was the Lady who informed the Brits of the impending
attack by the Americans...... Any guess on who that is? If you know
Canadian History, you'll know who I'm referring to.

-----------------------------------

Hillary Clinton's great grandmother?

Eisboch

LOL