On Thu, 30 Apr 2009 21:14:37 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
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On May 1, 12:01*am, Tim wrote:
On Apr 30, 10:53*pm, jps wrote:



On Thu, 30 Apr 2009 19:13:52 -0400, wrote:
On Thu, 30 Apr 2009 17:50:59 -0400, "Eisboch"
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On Thu, 30 Apr 2009 17:14:31 -0400, "Eisboch"
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On Thu, 30 Apr 2009 11:16:42 -0700, jps wrote:

On Thu, 30 Apr 2009 12:57:34 -0500, Richard Casady
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On Thu, 30 Apr 2009 08:42:17 -0700, jps wrote:

They concentrated on SUVs and Trucks until it went bust wihle others
who saw the 1000 point writing on the wall designed more efficient
vehicles.

The Ford F-150 pickup truck has been the best selling vehicle in the
country for about thirty years. Ford didn't make people buy them.

Casady

If they'd have stuck with the F150, Ford would be in fine shape. *But
they're not in trouble for building F150's are they?

And you knew that.

The F150 and E150 are still their bread and butter. They dress up that
chassis to make the luxury SUVs and fancy vans but they are still
F150s when you look under the skin.
This old truck is still doing fine for me (1985)
http://gfretwell.com/ftp/Brownie.jpg

It's amazing how many of the F-150s of that era are still on the road and
run well.
Cars of that vintage didn't, due to all the emission control stuff, but
trucks were exempt and as a result run well and long.

Eisboch

F150s are half ton, you had to be over a ton to get the exemption.
This has the air pump and the cat converter.
Emission control really became a non-issue in the 80s when they
started using electronic fuel and spark management systems. The bad
reputation came from the 70s vehicles that were just adding emission
control devices to old technology engines.

Your right. *I am a decade off.
I used to have a '87 Ford F-150 with the 300ci six. * *It was a great truck
and very reliable.

Eisboch

That is what this one has. 180 k miles.
The only problem we had with it was it was a northern truck that moved
south and it overheated when I was pulling my boat. From my experience
with an E150 I knew the fix was a 3 core radiator instead of the
standard 2 core. I found a guy who paid me $50 for the old 2 core so
it wasn't that big a deal.
This is our spare vehicle, only used for hauling stuff and moving the
boat. Like my old E150, everyone I know has borrowed it for something.

I have a 1967 Chevy C-20 with a 327 and a dump bed. *Three speed
column shift had a seizure 10 years ago so I cut a hole in the floor
and installed a hurst shift kit. *Three on the floor. *Truck looks
like crap but runs like a champ and does whatever I need.

I keep the old shift lever on the dash board just in case I need to
disarm a rabid gun owner.

I didn't know there was such a thing as a "rabid" gun.

Don't you mean *"Rabbit gun?"
You know, like the one this hunter is toting?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKPOh...eature=related

I dont need to disarm em. They take one look at what I drive and its
like "Holy ****, you drive that thang" and from then on were best buds.

A heap for a truck definitely makes folks think twice about gettin'
too close. Before I had the exhaust redone it had a nasty hole
pre-muffler that was good for attracting attention and scaring the
crap out of nearby drivers and pedestrians.

jps wrote:

A heap for a truck definitely makes folks think twice about gettin'
too close. Before I had the exhaust redone it had a nasty hole
pre-muffler that was good for attracting attention and scaring the
crap out of nearby drivers and pedestrians.

Did it sound like a gunshot?

Johnson

"Johnson" wrote in message
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jps wrote:

A heap for a truck definitely makes folks think twice about gettin'
too close. Before I had the exhaust redone it had a nasty hole
pre-muffler that was good for attracting attention and scaring the
crap out of nearby drivers and pedestrians.

Did it sound like a gunshot?

Johnson


Remember what we did as kids with new licenses? Drove Dad's car down the
street at speed and shut the ignition switch off for a few seconds, then
turned it back on.
The build up of fuel in the exhaust system usually blew a hole in the
muffler if you were successful. Instant hot rod.

Eisboch

Eisboch wrote:

"Johnson" wrote in message
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jps wrote:

A heap for a truck definitely makes folks think twice about gettin'
too close. Before I had the exhaust redone it had a nasty hole
pre-muffler that was good for attracting attention and scaring the
crap out of nearby drivers and pedestrians.

Did it sound like a gunshot?

Johnson


Remember what we did as kids with new licenses? Drove Dad's car down
the street at speed and shut the ignition switch off for a few seconds,
then turned it back on.
The build up of fuel in the exhaust system usually blew a hole in the
muffler if you were successful. Instant hot rod.

Eisboch


I bought a glasspack muffler for my first car, which was either a 1948
Jeep station wagon or a 1952-53 AeroWillys, depending on what my father
would let me use when I was 16. He had rebuilt both. Anyway, the muffler
made the car louder. But either one of them still had almost no
horsepower! Do you remember that long hill - Amity Road, I think it was
called...and where it bottomed, it became Whalley Avenue? Got those cars
up to 55 mph going downhill there.

On May 1, 8:35*pm, HK wrote:
Eisboch wrote:

"Johnson" wrote in message
m...
jps wrote:

A heap for a truck definitely makes folks think twice about gettin'
too close. *Before I had the exhaust redone it had a nasty hole
pre-muffler that was good for attracting attention and scaring the
crap out of nearby drivers and pedestrians.

Did it sound like a gunshot?

Johnson

Remember what we did as kids with new licenses? * Drove Dad's car down
the street at speed and shut the ignition switch off for a few seconds,
then turned it back on.
The build up of fuel in the exhaust system usually blew a hole in the
muffler if you were successful. *Instant hot rod.

Eisboch

I bought a glasspack muffler for my first car, which was either a 1948
Jeep station wagon or a 1952-53 AeroWillys, depending on what my father
would let me use when I was 16. He had rebuilt both. Anyway, the muffler
made the car louder. But either one of them still had almost no
horsepower! Do you remember that long hill - Amity Road, I think it was
called...and where it bottomed, it became Whalley Avenue? Got those cars
up to 55 mph going downhill there.- Hide quoted text -

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Pffffftttt.. Lobsta' boat!

On May 1, 8:52*pm, wrote:
On May 1, 8:35*pm, HK wrote:





Eisboch wrote:

"Johnson" wrote in message
m...
jps wrote:

A heap for a truck definitely makes folks think twice about gettin'
too close. *Before I had the exhaust redone it had a nasty hole
pre-muffler that was good for attracting attention and scaring the
crap out of nearby drivers and pedestrians.

Did it sound like a gunshot?

Johnson

Remember what we did as kids with new licenses? * Drove Dad's car down
the street at speed and shut the ignition switch off for a few seconds,
then turned it back on.
The build up of fuel in the exhaust system usually blew a hole in the
muffler if you were successful. *Instant hot rod.

Eisboch

I bought a glasspack muffler for my first car, which was either a 1948
Jeep station wagon or a 1952-53 AeroWillys, depending on what my father
would let me use when I was 16. He had rebuilt both. Anyway, the muffler
made the car louder. But either one of them still had almost no
horsepower! Do you remember that long hill - Amity Road, I think it was
called...and where it bottomed, it became Whalley Avenue? Got those cars
up to 55 mph going downhill there.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Pffffftttt.. Lobsta' boat!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Fireboat welcome!

"HK" wrote in message
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Eisboch wrote:

"Johnson" wrote in message
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jps wrote:

A heap for a truck definitely makes folks think twice about gettin'
too close. Before I had the exhaust redone it had a nasty hole
pre-muffler that was good for attracting attention and scaring the
crap out of nearby drivers and pedestrians.

Did it sound like a gunshot?

Johnson


Remember what we did as kids with new licenses? Drove Dad's car down
the street at speed and shut the ignition switch off for a few seconds,
then turned it back on.
The build up of fuel in the exhaust system usually blew a hole in the
muffler if you were successful. Instant hot rod.

Eisboch


I bought a glasspack muffler for my first car, which was either a 1948
Jeep station wagon or a 1952-53 AeroWillys, depending on what my father
would let me use when I was 16. He had rebuilt both. Anyway, the muffler
made the car louder. But either one of them still had almost no
horsepower! Do you remember that long hill - Amity Road, I think it was
called...and where it bottomed, it became Whalley Avenue? Got those cars
up to 55 mph going downhill there.

I remember both well. I recently took a "Google Earth" trip down in that
area.
It's amazing with all the photographs that people have taken that you can
zoom in on and then get a 360 degree view of a particular area. Brought
back a lot of memories. I haven't physically visited the area for what,
about 40 years? But I remember it all because it's where I first got my
driver's license.

Eisboch

On May 1, 8:35*pm, HK wrote:
Eisboch wrote:

"Johnson" wrote in message
m...
jps wrote:

A heap for a truck definitely makes folks think twice about gettin'
too close. *Before I had the exhaust redone it had a nasty hole
pre-muffler that was good for attracting attention and scaring the
crap out of nearby drivers and pedestrians.

Did it sound like a gunshot?

Johnson

Remember what we did as kids with new licenses? * Drove Dad's car down
the street at speed and shut the ignition switch off for a few seconds,
then turned it back on.
The build up of fuel in the exhaust system usually blew a hole in the
muffler if you were successful. *Instant hot rod.

Eisboch

I bought a glasspack muffler for my first car, which was either a 1948
Jeep station wagon or a 1952-53 AeroWillys, depending on what my father
would let me use when I was 16. He had rebuilt both. Anyway, the muffler
made the car louder. But either one of them still had almost no
horsepower! Do you remember that long hill - Amity Road, I think it was
called...and where it bottomed, it became Whalley Avenue? Got those cars
up to 55 mph going downhill there.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Was that before or after your father's alleged fireboat welcome in NYC?

On Fri, 1 May 2009 19:39:14 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:

Remember what we did as kids with new licenses? Drove Dad's car down the
street at speed and shut the ignition switch off for a few seconds, then
turned it back on.
The build up of fuel in the exhaust system usually blew a hole in the
muffler if you were successful. Instant hot rod.

I wouldn't call them hot rodders, but... It started as you say and
progressed to a spark plug and a fuel nozzle in the tail pipe.
The arms race culminated in a propane tank in the trunk and twenty
five foot tongues of flame. Ultimate no go showboat.

Casady

On Fri, 01 May 2009 18:49:21 -0400, Johnson
wrote:

jps wrote:

A heap for a truck definitely makes folks think twice about gettin'
too close. Before I had the exhaust redone it had a nasty hole
pre-muffler that was good for attracting attention and scaring the
crap out of nearby drivers and pedestrians.

Did it sound like a gunshot?

Johnson

No, it did not. I hope they have trucks wherever it is you live.