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HK April 28th 09 01:18 PM

Arlen Specter to switch political parties
 


By DAVID ESPO, AP Special Correspondent David Espo, Ap Special
Correspondent – 3 mins ago

WASHINGTON – Several officials say veteran Republican Sen. Arlen Specter
of Pennsylvania intends to switch parties, advancing his own hopes of
winning a new term next year while pushing Democrats one step closer to
a 60-vote filibuster-resistant majority.

The sources said an announcement could come later in the day — or
Wednesday. The officials who provided the information did so on
condition of anonymity, saying they were not authorized to discuss his
plans.

Specter is a 79-year-old veteran of five Senate terms, and one of only a
handful of moderate Republicans left in Congress in a party made up
largely of conservatives.

- - -

Statement by Senator Arlen Specter

I have been a Republican since 1966. I have been working extremely hard
for the Party, for its candidates and for the ideals of a Republican
Party whose tent is big enough to welcome diverse points of view. While
I have been comfortable being a Republican, my Party has not defined who
I am. I have taken each issue one at a time and have exercised
independent judgment to do what I thought was best for Pennsylvania and
the nation.

Since my election in 1980, as part of the Reagan Big Tent, the
Republican Party has moved far to the right. Last year, more than
200,000 Republicans in Pennsylvania changed their registration to become
Democrats. I now find my political philosophy more in line with
Democrats than Republicans.

When I supported the stimulus package, I knew that it would not be
popular with the Republican Party. But, I saw the stimulus as necessary
to lessen the risk of a far more serious recession than we are now
experiencing.

Since then, I have traveled the State, talked to Republican leaders and
office-holders and my supporters and I have carefully examined public
opinion. It has become clear to me that the stimulus vote caused a
schism which makes our differences irreconcilable. On this state of the
record, I am unwilling to have my twenty-nine year Senate record judged
by the Pennsylvania Republican primary electorate. I have not
represented the Republican Party. I have represented the people of
Pennsylvania.

I have decided to run for re-election in 2010 in the Democratic primary.

I am ready, willing and anxious to take on all comers and have my
candidacy for re-election determined in a general election.

I deeply regret that I will be disappointing many friends and
supporters. I can understand their disappointment. I am also
disappointed that so many in the Party I have worked for for more than
four decades do not want me to be their candidate. It is very painful on
both sides. I thank specially Senators McConnell and Cornyn for their
forbearance.

I am not making this decision because there are no important and
interesting opportunities outside the Senate. I take on this complicated
run for re-election because I am deeply concerned about the future of
our country and I believe I have a significant contribution to make on
many of the key issues of the day, especially medical research. NIH
funding has saved or lengthened thousands of lives, including mine, and
much more needs to be done. And my seniority is very important to
continue to bring important projects vital to Pennsylvania's economy.

I am taking this action now because there are fewer than thirteen months
to the 2010 Pennsylvania Primary and there is much to be done in
preparation for that election. Upon request, I will return campaign
contributions contributed during this cycle.

While each member of the Senate caucuses with his Party, what each of us
hopes to accomplish is distinct from his party affiliation. The American
people do not care which Party solves the problems confronting our
nation. And no Senator, no matter how loyal he is to his Party, should
or would put party loyalty above his duty to the state and nation.

My change in party affiliation does not mean that I will be a party-line
voter any more for the Democrats that I have been for the Republicans.
Unlike Senator Jeffords' switch which changed party control, I will not
be an automatic 60th vote for cloture. For example, my position on
Employees Free Choice (Card Check) will not change.

Whatever my party affiliation, I will continue to be guided by President
Kennedy's statement that sometimes Party asks too much. When it does, I
will continue my independent voting and follow my conscience on what I
think is best for Pennsylvania and America.

HK April 28th 09 05:24 PM

Arlen Specter to switch political parties
 
HK wrote:


By DAVID ESPO, AP Special Correspondent David Espo, Ap Special
Correspondent – 3 mins ago

WASHINGTON – Several officials say veteran Republican Sen. Arlen Specter
of Pennsylvania intends to switch parties, advancing his own hopes of
winning a new term next year while pushing Democrats one step closer to
a 60-vote filibuster-resistant majority.

The sources said an announcement could come later in the day — or
Wednesday. The officials who provided the information did so on
condition of anonymity, saying they were not authorized to discuss his
plans.

Specter is a 79-year-old veteran of five Senate terms, and one of only a
handful of moderate Republicans left in Congress in a party made up
largely of conservatives.

- - -

Statement by Senator Arlen Specter

I have been a Republican since 1966. I have been working extremely hard
for the Party, for its candidates and for the ideals of a Republican
Party whose tent is big enough to welcome diverse points of view. While
I have been comfortable being a Republican, my Party has not defined who
I am. I have taken each issue one at a time and have exercised
independent judgment to do what I thought was best for Pennsylvania and
the nation.

Since my election in 1980, as part of the Reagan Big Tent, the
Republican Party has moved far to the right. Last year, more than
200,000 Republicans in Pennsylvania changed their registration to become
Democrats. I now find my political philosophy more in line with
Democrats than Republicans.

When I supported the stimulus package, I knew that it would not be
popular with the Republican Party. But, I saw the stimulus as necessary
to lessen the risk of a far more serious recession than we are now
experiencing.

Since then, I have traveled the State, talked to Republican leaders and
office-holders and my supporters and I have carefully examined public
opinion. It has become clear to me that the stimulus vote caused a
schism which makes our differences irreconcilable. On this state of the
record, I am unwilling to have my twenty-nine year Senate record judged
by the Pennsylvania Republican primary electorate. I have not
represented the Republican Party. I have represented the people of
Pennsylvania.

I have decided to run for re-election in 2010 in the Democratic primary.

I am ready, willing and anxious to take on all comers and have my
candidacy for re-election determined in a general election.

I deeply regret that I will be disappointing many friends and
supporters. I can understand their disappointment. I am also
disappointed that so many in the Party I have worked for for more than
four decades do not want me to be their candidate. It is very painful on
both sides. I thank specially Senators McConnell and Cornyn for their
forbearance.

I am not making this decision because there are no important and
interesting opportunities outside the Senate. I take on this complicated
run for re-election because I am deeply concerned about the future of
our country and I believe I have a significant contribution to make on
many of the key issues of the day, especially medical research. NIH
funding has saved or lengthened thousands of lives, including mine, and
much more needs to be done. And my seniority is very important to
continue to bring important projects vital to Pennsylvania's economy.

I am taking this action now because there are fewer than thirteen months
to the 2010 Pennsylvania Primary and there is much to be done in
preparation for that election. Upon request, I will return campaign
contributions contributed during this cycle.

While each member of the Senate caucuses with his Party, what each of us
hopes to accomplish is distinct from his party affiliation. The American
people do not care which Party solves the problems confronting our
nation. And no Senator, no matter how loyal he is to his Party, should
or would put party loyalty above his duty to the state and nation.

My change in party affiliation does not mean that I will be a party-line
voter any more for the Democrats that I have been for the Republicans.
Unlike Senator Jeffords' switch which changed party control, I will not
be an automatic 60th vote for cloture. For example, my position on
Employees Free Choice (Card Check) will not change.

Whatever my party affiliation, I will continue to be guided by President
Kennedy's statement that sometimes Party asks too much. When it does, I
will continue my independent voting and follow my conscience on what I
think is best for Pennsylvania and America.



- - -

59 seats and counting...if Franken is seated, that makes a filibuster
proof Democratic majority in the Senate on many Democratic issues, and a
further decline for the crazy conservative Republicans.

jps April 28th 09 05:34 PM

Arlen Specter to switch political parties
 
On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 08:18:56 -0400, HK wrote:

I have decided to run for re-election in 2010 in the Democratic primary.


Didn't see your post or read his statement before I posted. This is
really something. No histrionics, no Joe Lieberman double dealing.

The right is more marginalized while the country shifts left.

[email protected] April 28th 09 05:35 PM

Arlen Specter to switch political parties
 
On Apr 28, 12:24*pm, HK wrote:
HK wrote:

By DAVID ESPO, AP Special Correspondent David Espo, Ap Special
Correspondent – 3 mins ago


WASHINGTON – Several officials say veteran Republican Sen. Arlen Specter
of Pennsylvania intends to switch parties, advancing his own hopes of
winning a new term next year while pushing Democrats one step closer to
a 60-vote filibuster-resistant majority.


The sources said an announcement could come later in the day — or
Wednesday. The officials who provided the information did so on
condition of anonymity, saying they were not authorized to discuss his
plans.


Specter is a 79-year-old veteran of five Senate terms, and one of only a
handful of moderate Republicans left in Congress in a party made up
largely of conservatives.


- - -


Statement by Senator Arlen Specter


I have been a Republican since 1966. I have been working extremely hard
for the Party, for its candidates and for the ideals of a Republican
Party whose tent is big enough to welcome diverse points of view. While
I have been comfortable being a Republican, my Party has not defined who
I am. I have taken each issue one at a time and have exercised
independent judgment to do what I thought was best for Pennsylvania and
the nation.


Since my election in 1980, as part of the Reagan Big Tent, the
Republican Party has moved far to the right. Last year, more than
200,000 Republicans in Pennsylvania changed their registration to become
Democrats. I now find my political philosophy more in line with
Democrats than Republicans.


When I supported the stimulus package, I knew that it would not be
popular with the Republican Party. But, I saw the stimulus as necessary
to lessen the risk of a far more serious recession than we are now
experiencing.


Since then, I have traveled the State, talked to Republican leaders and
office-holders and my supporters and I have carefully examined public
opinion. It has become clear to me that the stimulus vote caused a
schism which makes our differences irreconcilable. On this state of the
record, I am unwilling to have my twenty-nine year Senate record judged
by the Pennsylvania Republican primary electorate. I have not
represented the Republican Party. I have represented the people of
Pennsylvania.


I have decided to run for re-election in 2010 in the Democratic primary..


I am ready, willing and anxious to take on all comers and have my
candidacy for re-election determined in a general election.


I deeply regret that I will be disappointing many friends and
supporters. I can understand their disappointment. I am also
disappointed that so many in the Party I have worked for for more than
four decades do not want me to be their candidate. It is very painful on
both sides. I thank specially Senators McConnell and Cornyn for their
forbearance.


I am not making this decision because there are no important and
interesting opportunities outside the Senate. I take on this complicated
run for re-election because I am deeply concerned about the future of
our country and I believe I have a significant contribution to make on
many of the key issues of the day, especially medical research. NIH
funding has saved or lengthened thousands of lives, including mine, and
much more needs to be done. And my seniority is very important to
continue to bring important projects vital to Pennsylvania's economy.


I am taking this action now because there are fewer than thirteen months
to the 2010 Pennsylvania Primary and there is much to be done in
preparation for that election. Upon request, I will return campaign
contributions contributed during this cycle.


While each member of the Senate caucuses with his Party, what each of us
hopes to accomplish is distinct from his party affiliation. The American
people do not care which Party solves the problems confronting our
nation. And no Senator, no matter how loyal he is to his Party, should
or would put party loyalty above his duty to the state and nation.


My change in party affiliation does not mean that I will be a party-line
voter any more for the Democrats that I have been for the Republicans.
Unlike Senator Jeffords' switch which changed party control, I will not
be an automatic 60th vote for cloture. For example, my position on
Employees Free Choice (Card Check) will not change.


Whatever my party affiliation, I will continue to be guided by President
Kennedy's statement that sometimes Party asks too much. When it does, I
will continue my independent voting and follow my conscience on what I
think is best for Pennsylvania and America.


- - -

59 seats and counting...if Franken is seated, that makes a filibuster
proof Democratic majority in the Senate on many Democratic issues, and a
further decline for the crazy conservative Republicans.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


As opposed to a criminal congress bought and paid for by big
corporations like GE and lazy union bitches... I guess your ideal
government is one that doesn't reach across the isle, do business in
the open, or allow free speech... America as we know it is ****ed.
Time to stock up on ammo...

[email protected] April 28th 09 05:53 PM

Arlen Specter to switch political parties
 
On Apr 28, 12:35*pm, wrote:
On Apr 28, 12:24*pm, HK wrote:





HK wrote:


By DAVID ESPO, AP Special Correspondent David Espo, Ap Special
Correspondent – 3 mins ago


WASHINGTON – Several officials say veteran Republican Sen. Arlen Specter
of Pennsylvania intends to switch parties, advancing his own hopes of
winning a new term next year while pushing Democrats one step closer to
a 60-vote filibuster-resistant majority.


The sources said an announcement could come later in the day — or
Wednesday. The officials who provided the information did so on
condition of anonymity, saying they were not authorized to discuss his
plans.


Specter is a 79-year-old veteran of five Senate terms, and one of only a
handful of moderate Republicans left in Congress in a party made up
largely of conservatives.


- - -


Statement by Senator Arlen Specter


I have been a Republican since 1966. I have been working extremely hard
for the Party, for its candidates and for the ideals of a Republican
Party whose tent is big enough to welcome diverse points of view. While
I have been comfortable being a Republican, my Party has not defined who
I am. I have taken each issue one at a time and have exercised
independent judgment to do what I thought was best for Pennsylvania and
the nation.


Since my election in 1980, as part of the Reagan Big Tent, the
Republican Party has moved far to the right. Last year, more than
200,000 Republicans in Pennsylvania changed their registration to become
Democrats. I now find my political philosophy more in line with
Democrats than Republicans.


When I supported the stimulus package, I knew that it would not be
popular with the Republican Party. But, I saw the stimulus as necessary
to lessen the risk of a far more serious recession than we are now
experiencing.


Since then, I have traveled the State, talked to Republican leaders and
office-holders and my supporters and I have carefully examined public
opinion. It has become clear to me that the stimulus vote caused a
schism which makes our differences irreconcilable. On this state of the
record, I am unwilling to have my twenty-nine year Senate record judged
by the Pennsylvania Republican primary electorate. I have not
represented the Republican Party. I have represented the people of
Pennsylvania.


I have decided to run for re-election in 2010 in the Democratic primary.


I am ready, willing and anxious to take on all comers and have my
candidacy for re-election determined in a general election.


I deeply regret that I will be disappointing many friends and
supporters. I can understand their disappointment. I am also
disappointed that so many in the Party I have worked for for more than
four decades do not want me to be their candidate. It is very painful on
both sides. I thank specially Senators McConnell and Cornyn for their
forbearance.


I am not making this decision because there are no important and
interesting opportunities outside the Senate. I take on this complicated
run for re-election because I am deeply concerned about the future of
our country and I believe I have a significant contribution to make on
many of the key issues of the day, especially medical research. NIH
funding has saved or lengthened thousands of lives, including mine, and
much more needs to be done. And my seniority is very important to
continue to bring important projects vital to Pennsylvania's economy.


I am taking this action now because there are fewer than thirteen months
to the 2010 Pennsylvania Primary and there is much to be done in
preparation for that election. Upon request, I will return campaign
contributions contributed during this cycle.


While each member of the Senate caucuses with his Party, what each of us
hopes to accomplish is distinct from his party affiliation. The American
people do not care which Party solves the problems confronting our
nation. And no Senator, no matter how loyal he is to his Party, should
or would put party loyalty above his duty to the state and nation.


My change in party affiliation does not mean that I will be a party-line
voter any more for the Democrats that I have been for the Republicans..
Unlike Senator Jeffords' switch which changed party control, I will not
be an automatic 60th vote for cloture. For example, my position on
Employees Free Choice (Card Check) will not change.


Whatever my party affiliation, I will continue to be guided by President
Kennedy's statement that sometimes Party asks too much. When it does, I
will continue my independent voting and follow my conscience on what I
think is best for Pennsylvania and America.


- - -


59 seats and counting...if Franken is seated, that makes a filibuster
proof Democratic majority in the Senate on many Democratic issues, and a
further decline for the crazy conservative Republicans.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


As opposed to a criminal congress bought and paid for by big
corporations like GE and lazy union bitches... I guess your ideal
government is one that doesn't reach across the isle, do business in
the open, or allow free speech... America as we know it is ****ed.
Time to stock up on ammo...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Scotty, I've not ever heard you utter anything good about a liberal in
office. That isn't "reaching across the aisle". Obama tried very hard
to work with conservatives, and they wouldn't have anything to do with
it.

HK April 28th 09 05:59 PM

Arlen Specter to switch political parties
 
jps wrote:
On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 08:18:56 -0400, HK wrote:

I have decided to run for re-election in 2010 in the Democratic primary.


Didn't see your post or read his statement before I posted. This is
really something. No histrionics, no Joe Lieberman double dealing.

The right is more marginalized while the country shifts left.



Indeed. There were rumors for many months that Specter might have
dropped the GOP to become an Independent, but it's the smart move for
him to move over the the Democratic column, and work with the more
conservative Democratic senators.

The guy is 79 and has been fighting cancer for a long time. It's unclear
whether he'll actually run again in 2010, but if he does, I think he
would win as a Democrat, and if he doesn't run, there will be a strong
Democratic candidate running.

And Arlen makes 59...

HK April 28th 09 06:03 PM

Arlen Specter to switch political parties
 
wrote:
On Apr 28, 12:24 pm, HK wrote:
HK wrote:

By DAVID ESPO, AP Special Correspondent David Espo, Ap Special
Correspondent – 3 mins ago
WASHINGTON – Several officials say veteran Republican Sen. Arlen Specter
of Pennsylvania intends to switch parties, advancing his own hopes of
winning a new term next year while pushing Democrats one step closer to
a 60-vote filibuster-resistant majority.
The sources said an announcement could come later in the day — or
Wednesday. The officials who provided the information did so on
condition of anonymity, saying they were not authorized to discuss his
plans.
Specter is a 79-year-old veteran of five Senate terms, and one of only a
handful of moderate Republicans left in Congress in a party made up
largely of conservatives.
- - -
Statement by Senator Arlen Specter
I have been a Republican since 1966. I have been working extremely hard
for the Party, for its candidates and for the ideals of a Republican
Party whose tent is big enough to welcome diverse points of view. While
I have been comfortable being a Republican, my Party has not defined who
I am. I have taken each issue one at a time and have exercised
independent judgment to do what I thought was best for Pennsylvania and
the nation.
Since my election in 1980, as part of the Reagan Big Tent, the
Republican Party has moved far to the right. Last year, more than
200,000 Republicans in Pennsylvania changed their registration to become
Democrats. I now find my political philosophy more in line with
Democrats than Republicans.
When I supported the stimulus package, I knew that it would not be
popular with the Republican Party. But, I saw the stimulus as necessary
to lessen the risk of a far more serious recession than we are now
experiencing.
Since then, I have traveled the State, talked to Republican leaders and
office-holders and my supporters and I have carefully examined public
opinion. It has become clear to me that the stimulus vote caused a
schism which makes our differences irreconcilable. On this state of the
record, I am unwilling to have my twenty-nine year Senate record judged
by the Pennsylvania Republican primary electorate. I have not
represented the Republican Party. I have represented the people of
Pennsylvania.
I have decided to run for re-election in 2010 in the Democratic primary.
I am ready, willing and anxious to take on all comers and have my
candidacy for re-election determined in a general election.
I deeply regret that I will be disappointing many friends and
supporters. I can understand their disappointment. I am also
disappointed that so many in the Party I have worked for for more than
four decades do not want me to be their candidate. It is very painful on
both sides. I thank specially Senators McConnell and Cornyn for their
forbearance.
I am not making this decision because there are no important and
interesting opportunities outside the Senate. I take on this complicated
run for re-election because I am deeply concerned about the future of
our country and I believe I have a significant contribution to make on
many of the key issues of the day, especially medical research. NIH
funding has saved or lengthened thousands of lives, including mine, and
much more needs to be done. And my seniority is very important to
continue to bring important projects vital to Pennsylvania's economy.
I am taking this action now because there are fewer than thirteen months
to the 2010 Pennsylvania Primary and there is much to be done in
preparation for that election. Upon request, I will return campaign
contributions contributed during this cycle.
While each member of the Senate caucuses with his Party, what each of us
hopes to accomplish is distinct from his party affiliation. The American
people do not care which Party solves the problems confronting our
nation. And no Senator, no matter how loyal he is to his Party, should
or would put party loyalty above his duty to the state and nation.
My change in party affiliation does not mean that I will be a party-line
voter any more for the Democrats that I have been for the Republicans.
Unlike Senator Jeffords' switch which changed party control, I will not
be an automatic 60th vote for cloture. For example, my position on
Employees Free Choice (Card Check) will not change.
Whatever my party affiliation, I will continue to be guided by President
Kennedy's statement that sometimes Party asks too much. When it does, I
will continue my independent voting and follow my conscience on what I
think is best for Pennsylvania and America.

- - -

59 seats and counting...if Franken is seated, that makes a filibuster
proof Democratic majority in the Senate on many Democratic issues, and a
further decline for the crazy conservative Republicans.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


As opposed to a criminal congress bought and paid for by big
corporations like GE and lazy union bitches... I guess your ideal
government is one that doesn't reach across the isle, do business in
the open, or allow free speech... America as we know it is ****ed.
Time to stock up on ammo...


What are you going to do with the ammo? If you fill out the federal form
honestly, you won't be able to buy a handgun.



[email protected] April 28th 09 06:34 PM

Arlen Specter to switch political parties
 
On Apr 28, 12:53*pm, wrote:
On Apr 28, 12:35*pm, wrote:





On Apr 28, 12:24*pm, HK wrote:


HK wrote:


By DAVID ESPO, AP Special Correspondent David Espo, Ap Special
Correspondent – 3 mins ago


WASHINGTON – Several officials say veteran Republican Sen. Arlen Specter
of Pennsylvania intends to switch parties, advancing his own hopes of
winning a new term next year while pushing Democrats one step closer to
a 60-vote filibuster-resistant majority.


The sources said an announcement could come later in the day — or
Wednesday. The officials who provided the information did so on
condition of anonymity, saying they were not authorized to discuss his
plans.


Specter is a 79-year-old veteran of five Senate terms, and one of only a
handful of moderate Republicans left in Congress in a party made up
largely of conservatives.


- - -


Statement by Senator Arlen Specter


I have been a Republican since 1966. I have been working extremely hard
for the Party, for its candidates and for the ideals of a Republican
Party whose tent is big enough to welcome diverse points of view. While
I have been comfortable being a Republican, my Party has not defined who
I am. I have taken each issue one at a time and have exercised
independent judgment to do what I thought was best for Pennsylvania and
the nation.


Since my election in 1980, as part of the Reagan Big Tent, the
Republican Party has moved far to the right. Last year, more than
200,000 Republicans in Pennsylvania changed their registration to become
Democrats. I now find my political philosophy more in line with
Democrats than Republicans.


When I supported the stimulus package, I knew that it would not be
popular with the Republican Party. But, I saw the stimulus as necessary
to lessen the risk of a far more serious recession than we are now
experiencing.


Since then, I have traveled the State, talked to Republican leaders and
office-holders and my supporters and I have carefully examined public
opinion. It has become clear to me that the stimulus vote caused a
schism which makes our differences irreconcilable. On this state of the
record, I am unwilling to have my twenty-nine year Senate record judged
by the Pennsylvania Republican primary electorate. I have not
represented the Republican Party. I have represented the people of
Pennsylvania.


I have decided to run for re-election in 2010 in the Democratic primary.


I am ready, willing and anxious to take on all comers and have my
candidacy for re-election determined in a general election.


I deeply regret that I will be disappointing many friends and
supporters. I can understand their disappointment. I am also
disappointed that so many in the Party I have worked for for more than
four decades do not want me to be their candidate. It is very painful on
both sides. I thank specially Senators McConnell and Cornyn for their
forbearance.


I am not making this decision because there are no important and
interesting opportunities outside the Senate. I take on this complicated
run for re-election because I am deeply concerned about the future of
our country and I believe I have a significant contribution to make on
many of the key issues of the day, especially medical research. NIH
funding has saved or lengthened thousands of lives, including mine, and
much more needs to be done. And my seniority is very important to
continue to bring important projects vital to Pennsylvania's economy.


I am taking this action now because there are fewer than thirteen months
to the 2010 Pennsylvania Primary and there is much to be done in
preparation for that election. Upon request, I will return campaign
contributions contributed during this cycle.


While each member of the Senate caucuses with his Party, what each of us
hopes to accomplish is distinct from his party affiliation. The American
people do not care which Party solves the problems confronting our
nation. And no Senator, no matter how loyal he is to his Party, should
or would put party loyalty above his duty to the state and nation.


My change in party affiliation does not mean that I will be a party-line
voter any more for the Democrats that I have been for the Republicans.
Unlike Senator Jeffords' switch which changed party control, I will not
be an automatic 60th vote for cloture. For example, my position on
Employees Free Choice (Card Check) will not change.


Whatever my party affiliation, I will continue to be guided by President
Kennedy's statement that sometimes Party asks too much. When it does, I
will continue my independent voting and follow my conscience on what I
think is best for Pennsylvania and America.


- - -


59 seats and counting...if Franken is seated, that makes a filibuster
proof Democratic majority in the Senate on many Democratic issues, and a
further decline for the crazy conservative Republicans.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


As opposed to a criminal congress bought and paid for by big
corporations like GE and lazy union bitches... I guess your ideal
government is one that doesn't reach across the isle, do business in
the open, or allow free speech... America as we know it is ****ed.
Time to stock up on ammo...- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Scotty, I've not ever heard you utter anything good about a liberal in
office. That isn't "reaching across the aisle". Obama tried very hard
to work with conservatives, and they wouldn't have anything to do with
it.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


BTW, I liked Richardson... Could have voted for him... There, how's
that?

jps April 28th 09 06:59 PM

Arlen Specter to switch political parties
 
On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 13:03:28 -0400, HK wrote:

wrote:



As opposed to a criminal congress bought and paid for by big
corporations like GE and lazy union bitches... I guess your ideal
government is one that doesn't reach across the isle, do business in
the open, or allow free speech... America as we know it is ****ed.
Time to stock up on ammo...


What are you going to do with the ammo? If you fill out the federal form
honestly, you won't be able to buy a handgun.


This is just the sort of imbalanced jerk that psychological tests for
gun ownership should ferret out as a threat to himself and others.

[email protected] April 28th 09 07:04 PM

Arlen Specter to switch political parties
 
On Apr 28, 1:59*pm, jps wrote:
On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 13:03:28 -0400, HK wrote:
wrote:
As opposed to a criminal congress bought and paid for by big
corporations like GE and lazy union bitches... I guess your ideal
government is one that doesn't reach across the isle, do business in
the open, or allow free speech... America as we know it is ****ed.
Time to stock up on ammo...


What are you going to do with the ammo? If you fill out the federal form
honestly, you won't be able to buy a handgun.


This is just the sort of imbalanced jerk that psychological tests for
gun ownership *should ferret out as a threat to himself and others.


Yeah, and your balanced right? Of course I don't toe your far left
line so you don't want me to have guns, but your butt buddy Harry who
has wished harm and death on more posters here than anyone is ok
right? You have lost all credibility here (as if you ever had any) and
of course everyone knows you base your ideology on the emotional level
of a 14 year old girl.. So **** off, ok..

[email protected] April 28th 09 07:07 PM

Arlen Specter to switch political parties
 
On Apr 28, 1:59*pm, jps wrote:
On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 13:03:28 -0400, HK wrote:
wrote:
As opposed to a criminal congress bought and paid for by big
corporations like GE and lazy union bitches... I guess your ideal
government is one that doesn't reach across the isle, do business in
the open, or allow free speech... America as we know it is ****ed.
Time to stock up on ammo...


What are you going to do with the ammo? If you fill out the federal form
honestly, you won't be able to buy a handgun.


This is just the sort of imbalanced jerk that psychological tests for
gun ownership *should ferret out as a threat to himself and others.


Oh yeah, and your lover Harry has even said he would shoot cops if
they came to his door at night.. You really need to be better informed
before you throw around your silly bull****.... So, how do you feel
about Harry having guns? I will expect the usual insults and
deflection, anything but an answer...

HK April 28th 09 07:30 PM

Arlen Specter to switch political parties
 
jps wrote:
On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 13:03:28 -0400, HK wrote:

wrote:



As opposed to a criminal congress bought and paid for by big
corporations like GE and lazy union bitches... I guess your ideal
government is one that doesn't reach across the isle, do business in
the open, or allow free speech... America as we know it is ****ed.
Time to stock up on ammo...

What are you going to do with the ammo? If you fill out the federal form
honestly, you won't be able to buy a handgun.


This is just the sort of imbalanced jerk that psychological tests for
gun ownership should ferret out as a threat to himself and others.



Unfortunately, there is no psychological testing for suitability to buy
a firearm. There is a short federal form and in Maryland another form,
and there are a couple of questions through which one is supposed to
reveal any emotional disorder/domestic violence/felony background.

In Maryland, the state imposes a 10-day waiting period for handguns, but
there is no waiting period for long guns or shotguns.

In other states, like Virginia, there is the infamous "gun show
loophole," through which any private seller can, without an exchange of
any paperwork, sell a firearm to nutcases like JustHate.

I would support a genuine psychological test for anyone who wants to buy
a firearm, and also some sort of license that could be yanked
permanently or temporarily in case of conviction for a violent
misdemeanor or felony, or in case of onset of certain psychological
disorders. A yanked license would of course mean the sale within 30 days
of any operable firearms the license holder has in possession.

I appreciate the fact that I live in a state that is fairly strict about
possession of firearms. I have a couple of concealed carry permits. The
one I have from my home state required the jumping through of a number
of difficult hoops. One of my others required nothing more than the
payment of a fee and the ability to fog a mirror.

HK April 28th 09 07:31 PM

Arlen Specter to switch political parties
 
wrote:
On Apr 28, 1:59 pm, jps wrote:
On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 13:03:28 -0400, HK wrote:
wrote:
As opposed to a criminal congress bought and paid for by big
corporations like GE and lazy union bitches... I guess your ideal
government is one that doesn't reach across the isle, do business in
the open, or allow free speech... America as we know it is ****ed.
Time to stock up on ammo...
What are you going to do with the ammo? If you fill out the federal form
honestly, you won't be able to buy a handgun.

This is just the sort of imbalanced jerk that psychological tests for
gun ownership should ferret out as a threat to himself and others.


Oh yeah, and your lover Harry has even said he would shoot cops if
they came to his door at night.. You really need to be better informed
before you throw around your silly bull****.... So, how do you feel
about Harry having guns? I will expect the usual insults and
deflection, anything but an answer...



No, **** for brains, I never said anything like that. Anyone can come to
my door without a problem. It's what happens after that that matters.

[email protected] April 28th 09 07:39 PM

Arlen Specter to switch political parties
 
On Apr 28, 2:31*pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Apr 28, 1:59 pm, jps wrote:
On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 13:03:28 -0400, HK wrote:
wrote:
As opposed to a criminal congress bought and paid for by big
corporations like GE and lazy union bitches... I guess your ideal
government is one that doesn't reach across the isle, do business in
the open, or allow free speech... America as we know it is ****ed.
Time to stock up on ammo...
What are you going to do with the ammo? If you fill out the federal form
honestly, you won't be able to buy a handgun.
This is just the sort of imbalanced jerk that psychological tests for
gun ownership *should ferret out as a threat to himself and others.


Oh yeah, and your lover Harry has even said he would shoot cops if
they came to his door at night.. You really need to be better informed
before you throw around your silly bull****.... So, how do you feel
about Harry having guns? I will expect the usual insults and
deflection, anything but an answer...


No, **** for brains, I never said anything like that. Anyone can come to
my door without a problem. It's what happens after that that matters.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Revisionist history, anyone who reads your bull**** knows what you
said.. But then again, you are most well known here for being a liar..

HK April 28th 09 08:17 PM

Arlen Specter to switch political parties
 
wrote:
On Apr 28, 2:31 pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Apr 28, 1:59 pm, jps wrote:
On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 13:03:28 -0400, HK wrote:
wrote:
As opposed to a criminal congress bought and paid for by big
corporations like GE and lazy union bitches... I guess your ideal
government is one that doesn't reach across the isle, do business in
the open, or allow free speech... America as we know it is ****ed.
Time to stock up on ammo...
What are you going to do with the ammo? If you fill out the federal form
honestly, you won't be able to buy a handgun.
This is just the sort of imbalanced jerk that psychological tests for
gun ownership should ferret out as a threat to himself and others.
Oh yeah, and your lover Harry has even said he would shoot cops if
they came to his door at night.. You really need to be better informed
before you throw around your silly bull****.... So, how do you feel
about Harry having guns? I will expect the usual insults and
deflection, anything but an answer...

No, **** for brains, I never said anything like that. Anyone can come to
my door without a problem. It's what happens after that that matters.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Revisionist history, anyone who reads your bull**** knows what you
said.. But then again, you are most well known here for being a liar..



Prove it, **** for brains.

[email protected] April 28th 09 08:19 PM

Arlen Specter to switch political parties
 
On Apr 28, 2:39*pm, wrote:
On Apr 28, 2:31*pm, HK wrote:





wrote:
On Apr 28, 1:59 pm, jps wrote:
On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 13:03:28 -0400, HK wrote:
wrote:
As opposed to a criminal congress bought and paid for by big
corporations like GE and lazy union bitches... I guess your ideal
government is one that doesn't reach across the isle, do business in
the open, or allow free speech... America as we know it is ****ed.
Time to stock up on ammo...
What are you going to do with the ammo? If you fill out the federal form
honestly, you won't be able to buy a handgun.
This is just the sort of imbalanced jerk that psychological tests for
gun ownership *should ferret out as a threat to himself and others..


Oh yeah, and your lover Harry has even said he would shoot cops if
they came to his door at night.. You really need to be better informed
before you throw around your silly bull****.... So, how do you feel
about Harry having guns? I will expect the usual insults and
deflection, anything but an answer...


No, **** for brains, I never said anything like that. Anyone can come to
my door without a problem. It's what happens after that that matters.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Revisionist history, anyone who reads your bull**** knows what you
said.. *But then again, you are most well known here for being a liar..- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Yep, he's nothing but a liar. He's been caught red handed in so many
lies he can't keep up with them! He'll be able to come clean soon, if
he has the balls.

[email protected] April 28th 09 08:27 PM

Arlen Specter to switch political parties
 
On Apr 28, 3:19*pm, wrote:
On Apr 28, 2:39*pm, wrote:





On Apr 28, 2:31*pm, HK wrote:


wrote:
On Apr 28, 1:59 pm, jps wrote:
On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 13:03:28 -0400, HK wrote:
wrote:
As opposed to a criminal congress bought and paid for by big
corporations like GE and lazy union bitches... I guess your ideal
government is one that doesn't reach across the isle, do business in
the open, or allow free speech... America as we know it is ****ed.
Time to stock up on ammo...
What are you going to do with the ammo? If you fill out the federal form
honestly, you won't be able to buy a handgun.
This is just the sort of imbalanced jerk that psychological tests for
gun ownership *should ferret out as a threat to himself and others.


Oh yeah, and your lover Harry has even said he would shoot cops if
they came to his door at night.. You really need to be better informed
before you throw around your silly bull****.... So, how do you feel
about Harry having guns? I will expect the usual insults and
deflection, anything but an answer...


No, **** for brains, I never said anything like that. Anyone can come to
my door without a problem. It's what happens after that that matters.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Revisionist history, anyone who reads your bull**** knows what you
said.. *But then again, you are most well known here for being a liar...- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Yep, he's nothing but a liar. He's been caught red handed in so many
lies he can't keep up with them! He'll be able to come clean soon, if
he has the balls.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Never happen, this place is all he has, he is not man enough to admit
a mistake...

HK April 28th 09 08:33 PM

Arlen Specter to switch political parties
 
wrote:
On Apr 28, 3:19 pm, wrote:
On Apr 28, 2:39 pm, wrote:





On Apr 28, 2:31 pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Apr 28, 1:59 pm, jps wrote:
On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 13:03:28 -0400, HK wrote:
wrote:
As opposed to a criminal congress bought and paid for by big
corporations like GE and lazy union bitches... I guess your ideal
government is one that doesn't reach across the isle, do business in
the open, or allow free speech... America as we know it is ****ed.
Time to stock up on ammo...
What are you going to do with the ammo? If you fill out the federal form
honestly, you won't be able to buy a handgun.
This is just the sort of imbalanced jerk that psychological tests for
gun ownership should ferret out as a threat to himself and others.
Oh yeah, and your lover Harry has even said he would shoot cops if
they came to his door at night.. You really need to be better informed
before you throw around your silly bull****.... So, how do you feel
about Harry having guns? I will expect the usual insults and
deflection, anything but an answer...
No, **** for brains, I never said anything like that. Anyone can come to
my door without a problem. It's what happens after that that matters.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Revisionist history, anyone who reads your bull**** knows what you
said.. But then again, you are most well known here for being a liar..- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

Yep, he's nothing but a liar. He's been caught red handed in so many
lies he can't keep up with them! He'll be able to come clean soon, if
he has the balls.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Never happen, this place is all he has, he is not man enough to admit
a mistake...



So, we have **** for brains and his shadow, neither of whom can cough up
the b.s. the original **** for brains claimed as a "fact."

Which is it, by the way? You can't buy a firearm because of prior
convictions or because of psychological problems?

[email protected] April 28th 09 08:44 PM

Arlen Specter to switch political parties
 
On Apr 28, 3:33*pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Apr 28, 3:19 pm, wrote:
On Apr 28, 2:39 pm, wrote:


On Apr 28, 2:31 pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Apr 28, 1:59 pm, jps wrote:
On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 13:03:28 -0400, HK wrote:
wrote:
As opposed to a criminal congress bought and paid for by big
corporations like GE and lazy union bitches... I guess your ideal
government is one that doesn't reach across the isle, do business in
the open, or allow free speech... America as we know it is ****ed.
Time to stock up on ammo...
What are you going to do with the ammo? If you fill out the federal form
honestly, you won't be able to buy a handgun.
This is just the sort of imbalanced jerk that psychological tests for
gun ownership *should ferret out as a threat to himself and others.
Oh yeah, and your lover Harry has even said he would shoot cops if
they came to his door at night.. You really need to be better informed
before you throw around your silly bull****.... So, how do you feel
about Harry having guns? I will expect the usual insults and
deflection, anything but an answer...
No, **** for brains, I never said anything like that. Anyone can come to
my door without a problem. It's what happens after that that matters..- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Revisionist history, anyone who reads your bull**** knows what you
said.. *But then again, you are most well known here for being a liar..- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Yep, he's nothing but a liar. He's been caught red handed in so many
lies he can't keep up with them! He'll be able to come clean soon, if
he has the balls.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Never happen, this place is all he has, he is not man enough to admit
a mistake...


So, we have **** for brains and his shadow, neither of whom can cough up
the b.s. the original **** for brains claimed as a "fact."

Which is it, by the way? You can't buy a firearm because of prior
convictions or because of psychological problems?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


So, **** for brains wants me to go back and google his posts.. snerk
Sorry Harry, I have a life, however I guarantee you 90% of the folks
reading know I don't lie here, as well as 98% of the folks here know
you always do...

HK April 28th 09 08:50 PM

Arlen Specter to switch political parties
 
wrote:
On Apr 28, 3:33 pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Apr 28, 3:19 pm, wrote:
On Apr 28, 2:39 pm, wrote:
On Apr 28, 2:31 pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Apr 28, 1:59 pm, jps wrote:
On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 13:03:28 -0400, HK wrote:
wrote:
As opposed to a criminal congress bought and paid for by big
corporations like GE and lazy union bitches... I guess your ideal
government is one that doesn't reach across the isle, do business in
the open, or allow free speech... America as we know it is ****ed.
Time to stock up on ammo...
What are you going to do with the ammo? If you fill out the federal form
honestly, you won't be able to buy a handgun.
This is just the sort of imbalanced jerk that psychological tests for
gun ownership should ferret out as a threat to himself and others.
Oh yeah, and your lover Harry has even said he would shoot cops if
they came to his door at night.. You really need to be better informed
before you throw around your silly bull****.... So, how do you feel
about Harry having guns? I will expect the usual insults and
deflection, anything but an answer...
No, **** for brains, I never said anything like that. Anyone can come to
my door without a problem. It's what happens after that that matters.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Revisionist history, anyone who reads your bull**** knows what you
said.. But then again, you are most well known here for being a liar..- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Yep, he's nothing but a liar. He's been caught red handed in so many
lies he can't keep up with them! He'll be able to come clean soon, if
he has the balls.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Never happen, this place is all he has, he is not man enough to admit
a mistake...

So, we have **** for brains and his shadow, neither of whom can cough up
the b.s. the original **** for brains claimed as a "fact."

Which is it, by the way? You can't buy a firearm because of prior
convictions or because of psychological problems?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


So, **** for brains wants me to go back and google his posts.. snerk
Sorry Harry, I have a life, however I guarantee you 90% of the folks
reading know I don't lie here, as well as 98% of the folks here know
you always do...



Pretty good waffle, especially for a dimwit like you. The reality is,
and you know it, you've simply made up another tale about me that suits
your purposes and when push comes to shove, you've got nothing with
which to back it up.

I obey firearms laws. If you are on my front doorstep and knocking, I
might answer and I might not. If you bust in and you're not a uniformed
cop or obviously some other sort of sworn law enforcement type*, you are
going go get your head blown off.

You're a liar.

BTW, which is it for you? Previously conviction or admission or
psychological problems?




* Not bloody likely cops are going to be busting in my door.




[email protected] April 28th 09 08:52 PM

Arlen Specter to switch political parties
 
On Apr 28, 3:50*pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Apr 28, 3:33 pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Apr 28, 3:19 pm, wrote:
On Apr 28, 2:39 pm, wrote:
On Apr 28, 2:31 pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Apr 28, 1:59 pm, jps wrote:
On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 13:03:28 -0400, HK wrote:
wrote:
As opposed to a criminal congress bought and paid for by big
corporations like GE and lazy union bitches... I guess your ideal
government is one that doesn't reach across the isle, do business in
the open, or allow free speech... America as we know it is ****ed.
Time to stock up on ammo...
What are you going to do with the ammo? If you fill out the federal form
honestly, you won't be able to buy a handgun.
This is just the sort of imbalanced jerk that psychological tests for
gun ownership *should ferret out as a threat to himself and others.
Oh yeah, and your lover Harry has even said he would shoot cops if
they came to his door at night.. You really need to be better informed
before you throw around your silly bull****.... So, how do you feel
about Harry having guns? I will expect the usual insults and
deflection, anything but an answer...
No, **** for brains, I never said anything like that. Anyone can come to
my door without a problem. It's what happens after that that matters.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Revisionist history, anyone who reads your bull**** knows what you
said.. *But then again, you are most well known here for being a liar..- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Yep, he's nothing but a liar. He's been caught red handed in so many
lies he can't keep up with them! He'll be able to come clean soon, if
he has the balls.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Never happen, this place is all he has, he is not man enough to admit
a mistake...
So, we have **** for brains and his shadow, neither of whom can cough up
the b.s. the original **** for brains claimed as a "fact."


Which is it, by the way? You can't buy a firearm because of prior
convictions or because of psychological problems?- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


So, **** for brains wants me to go back and google his posts.. snerk
Sorry Harry, I have a life, however I guarantee you 90% of the folks
reading know I don't lie here, as well as 98% of the folks here know
you always do...


Pretty good waffle, especially for a dimwit like you. The reality is,
and you know it, you've simply made up another tale about me that suits
your purposes and when push comes to shove, you've got nothing with
which to back it up.

I obey firearms laws. If you are on my front doorstep and knocking, I
might answer and I might not. If you bust in and you're not a uniformed
cop or obviously some other sort of sworn law enforcement type*, you are
going go get your head blown off.

You're a liar.

BTW, which is it for you? Previously conviction or admission or
psychological problems?

* Not bloody likely cops are going to be busting in my door.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Pffffttt.. you are funny... what "is, is"?

wf3h April 28th 09 08:54 PM

Arlen Specter to switch political parties
 
On Apr 28, 8:18*am, HK wrote:
By DAVID ESPO, AP Special Correspondent David Espo, Ap Special
Correspondent – 3 mins ago

WASHINGTON – Several officials say veteran Republican Sen. Arlen Specter
of Pennsylvania intends to switch parties, advancing his own hopes of
winning a new term next year while pushing Democrats one step closer to
a 60-vote filibuster-resistant majority.


good move for him as many of us moderate democrats have been voting
for him for years. glad to see he recognized the reality.

and it looks like the GOP in PA may be dying, or at least becoming a
party of angry white conservative males...http://
tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/04/why-specter-did-it----and-had-to-
do-it.php

doesn't bode well for the GOP in PA

HK April 28th 09 08:54 PM

Arlen Specter to switch political parties
 
wrote:
On Apr 28, 3:50 pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Apr 28, 3:33 pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Apr 28, 3:19 pm, wrote:
On Apr 28, 2:39 pm, wrote:
On Apr 28, 2:31 pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Apr 28, 1:59 pm, jps wrote:
On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 13:03:28 -0400, HK wrote:
wrote:
As opposed to a criminal congress bought and paid for by big
corporations like GE and lazy union bitches... I guess your ideal
government is one that doesn't reach across the isle, do business in
the open, or allow free speech... America as we know it is ****ed.
Time to stock up on ammo...
What are you going to do with the ammo? If you fill out the federal form
honestly, you won't be able to buy a handgun.
This is just the sort of imbalanced jerk that psychological tests for
gun ownership should ferret out as a threat to himself and others.
Oh yeah, and your lover Harry has even said he would shoot cops if
they came to his door at night.. You really need to be better informed
before you throw around your silly bull****.... So, how do you feel
about Harry having guns? I will expect the usual insults and
deflection, anything but an answer...
No, **** for brains, I never said anything like that. Anyone can come to
my door without a problem. It's what happens after that that matters.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Revisionist history, anyone who reads your bull**** knows what you
said.. But then again, you are most well known here for being a liar..- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Yep, he's nothing but a liar. He's been caught red handed in so many
lies he can't keep up with them! He'll be able to come clean soon, if
he has the balls.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Never happen, this place is all he has, he is not man enough to admit
a mistake...
So, we have **** for brains and his shadow, neither of whom can cough up
the b.s. the original **** for brains claimed as a "fact."
Which is it, by the way? You can't buy a firearm because of prior
convictions or because of psychological problems?- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
So, **** for brains wants me to go back and google his posts.. snerk
Sorry Harry, I have a life, however I guarantee you 90% of the folks
reading know I don't lie here, as well as 98% of the folks here know
you always do...

Pretty good waffle, especially for a dimwit like you. The reality is,
and you know it, you've simply made up another tale about me that suits
your purposes and when push comes to shove, you've got nothing with
which to back it up.

I obey firearms laws. If you are on my front doorstep and knocking, I
might answer and I might not. If you bust in and you're not a uniformed
cop or obviously some other sort of sworn law enforcement type*, you are
going go get your head blown off.

You're a liar.

BTW, which is it for you? Previously conviction or admission or
psychological problems?

* Not bloody likely cops are going to be busting in my door.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Pffffttt.. you are funny... what "is, is"?



So, why can't you purchase a firearm, **** for brains? Conviction? Plea?
Psycho?

HK April 28th 09 08:56 PM

Arlen Specter to switch political parties
 
wf3h wrote:
On Apr 28, 8:18 am, HK wrote:
By DAVID ESPO, AP Special Correspondent David Espo, Ap Special
Correspondent – 3 mins ago

WASHINGTON – Several officials say veteran Republican Sen. Arlen Specter
of Pennsylvania intends to switch parties, advancing his own hopes of
winning a new term next year while pushing Democrats one step closer to
a 60-vote filibuster-resistant majority.


good move for him as many of us moderate democrats have been voting
for him for years. glad to see he recognized the reality.

and it looks like the GOP in PA may be dying, or at least becoming a
party of angry white conservative males...http://
tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/04/why-specter-did-it----and-had-to-
do-it.php

doesn't bode well for the GOP in PA



It's sorta fun to watch the current iteration of GOP head over Niagara
Falls sans barrel.

Maybe the GOP will be born again, but without the Crazy Christians and
the neocons.

wf3h April 28th 09 09:06 PM

Arlen Specter to switch political parties
 
On Apr 28, 12:35*pm, wrote:
On Apr 28, 12:24*pm, HK wrote:





HK wrote:


By DAVID ESPO, AP Special Correspondent David Espo, Ap Special
Correspondent – 3 mins ago


WASHINGTON – Several officials say veteran Republican Sen. Arlen Specter
of Pennsylvania intends to switch parties, advancing his own hopes of
winning a new term next year while pushing Democrats one step closer to
a 60-vote filibuster-resistant majority.


The sources said an announcement could come later in the day — or
Wednesday. The officials who provided the information did so on
condition of anonymity, saying they were not authorized to discuss his
plans.


Specter is a 79-year-old veteran of five Senate terms, and one of only a
handful of moderate Republicans left in Congress in a party made up
largely of conservatives.


- - -


Statement by Senator Arlen Specter


I have been a Republican since 1966. I have been working extremely hard
for the Party, for its candidates and for the ideals of a Republican
Party whose tent is big enough to welcome diverse points of view. While
I have been comfortable being a Republican, my Party has not defined who
I am. I have taken each issue one at a time and have exercised
independent judgment to do what I thought was best for Pennsylvania and
the nation.


Since my election in 1980, as part of the Reagan Big Tent, the
Republican Party has moved far to the right. Last year, more than
200,000 Republicans in Pennsylvania changed their registration to become
Democrats. I now find my political philosophy more in line with
Democrats than Republicans.


When I supported the stimulus package, I knew that it would not be
popular with the Republican Party. But, I saw the stimulus as necessary
to lessen the risk of a far more serious recession than we are now
experiencing.


Since then, I have traveled the State, talked to Republican leaders and
office-holders and my supporters and I have carefully examined public
opinion. It has become clear to me that the stimulus vote caused a
schism which makes our differences irreconcilable. On this state of the
record, I am unwilling to have my twenty-nine year Senate record judged
by the Pennsylvania Republican primary electorate. I have not
represented the Republican Party. I have represented the people of
Pennsylvania.


I have decided to run for re-election in 2010 in the Democratic primary.


I am ready, willing and anxious to take on all comers and have my
candidacy for re-election determined in a general election.


I deeply regret that I will be disappointing many friends and
supporters. I can understand their disappointment. I am also
disappointed that so many in the Party I have worked for for more than
four decades do not want me to be their candidate. It is very painful on
both sides. I thank specially Senators McConnell and Cornyn for their
forbearance.


I am not making this decision because there are no important and
interesting opportunities outside the Senate. I take on this complicated
run for re-election because I am deeply concerned about the future of
our country and I believe I have a significant contribution to make on
many of the key issues of the day, especially medical research. NIH
funding has saved or lengthened thousands of lives, including mine, and
much more needs to be done. And my seniority is very important to
continue to bring important projects vital to Pennsylvania's economy.


I am taking this action now because there are fewer than thirteen months
to the 2010 Pennsylvania Primary and there is much to be done in
preparation for that election. Upon request, I will return campaign
contributions contributed during this cycle.


While each member of the Senate caucuses with his Party, what each of us
hopes to accomplish is distinct from his party affiliation. The American
people do not care which Party solves the problems confronting our
nation. And no Senator, no matter how loyal he is to his Party, should
or would put party loyalty above his duty to the state and nation.


My change in party affiliation does not mean that I will be a party-line
voter any more for the Democrats that I have been for the Republicans..
Unlike Senator Jeffords' switch which changed party control, I will not
be an automatic 60th vote for cloture. For example, my position on
Employees Free Choice (Card Check) will not change.


Whatever my party affiliation, I will continue to be guided by President
Kennedy's statement that sometimes Party asks too much. When it does, I
will continue my independent voting and follow my conscience on what I
think is best for Pennsylvania and America.


- - -


59 seats and counting...if Franken is seated, that makes a filibuster
proof Democratic majority in the Senate on many Democratic issues, and a
further decline for the crazy conservative Republicans.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


As opposed to a criminal congress bought and paid for by big
corporations like GE and lazy union bitches... I guess your ideal
government is one that doesn't reach across the isle,


from 2000-2006 the GOP had

-the presidency
-the congress (both houses)
-roughly about 35 governorships
-appointed 7 of 9 supreme court justices

and they turned the US into a banana republic (see the article by
former IMF economist, and MIT prof simon johnson at:
http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200905/imf-advice) for the benefit of
the rich bankers who ran the GOP.

they have only themselves to blame.
do business in
the open, or allow free speech... America as we know it is ****ed.
Time to stock up on ammo...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -



wf3h April 28th 09 09:08 PM

Arlen Specter to switch political parties
 
On Apr 28, 1:59*pm, jps wrote:
On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 13:03:28 -0400, HK wrote:
wrote:
As opposed to a criminal congress bought and paid for by big
corporations like GE and lazy union bitches... I guess your ideal
government is one that doesn't reach across the isle, do business in
the open, or allow free speech... America as we know it is ****ed.
Time to stock up on ammo...


What are you going to do with the ammo? If you fill out the federal form
honestly, you won't be able to buy a handgun.


This is just the sort of imbalanced jerk that psychological tests for
gun ownership *should ferret out as a threat to himself and others.


my hometown is pittsburgh. having seen what the gun crowd did to
police officers there recently, i'm even more inclined to advocate
repeal of the 2nd amendment. the more i see about gun nuts, the more i
know the 2nd is dangerous for freedom.

[email protected] April 28th 09 09:20 PM

Arlen Specter to switch political parties
 
On Apr 28, 3:54*pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Apr 28, 3:50 pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Apr 28, 3:33 pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Apr 28, 3:19 pm, wrote:
On Apr 28, 2:39 pm, wrote:
On Apr 28, 2:31 pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Apr 28, 1:59 pm, jps wrote:
On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 13:03:28 -0400, HK wrote:
wrote:
As opposed to a criminal congress bought and paid for by big
corporations like GE and lazy union bitches... I guess your ideal
government is one that doesn't reach across the isle, do business in
the open, or allow free speech... America as we know it is ****ed.
Time to stock up on ammo...
What are you going to do with the ammo? If you fill out the federal form
honestly, you won't be able to buy a handgun.
This is just the sort of imbalanced jerk that psychological tests for
gun ownership *should ferret out as a threat to himself and others.
Oh yeah, and your lover Harry has even said he would shoot cops if
they came to his door at night.. You really need to be better informed
before you throw around your silly bull****.... So, how do you feel
about Harry having guns? I will expect the usual insults and
deflection, anything but an answer...
No, **** for brains, I never said anything like that. Anyone can come to
my door without a problem. It's what happens after that that matters.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Revisionist history, anyone who reads your bull**** knows what you
said.. *But then again, you are most well known here for being a liar..- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Yep, he's nothing but a liar. He's been caught red handed in so many
lies he can't keep up with them! He'll be able to come clean soon, if
he has the balls.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Never happen, this place is all he has, he is not man enough to admit
a mistake...
So, we have **** for brains and his shadow, neither of whom can cough up
the b.s. the original **** for brains claimed as a "fact."
Which is it, by the way? You can't buy a firearm because of prior
convictions or because of psychological problems?- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
So, **** for brains wants me to go back and google his posts.. snerk
Sorry Harry, I have a life, however I guarantee you 90% of the folks
reading know I don't lie here, as well as 98% of the folks here know
you always do...
Pretty good waffle, especially for a dimwit like you. The reality is,
and you know it, you've simply made up another tale about me that suits
your purposes and when push comes to shove, you've got nothing with
which to back it up.


I obey firearms laws. If you are on my front doorstep and knocking, I
might answer and I might not. If you bust in and you're not a uniformed
cop or obviously some other sort of sworn law enforcement type*, you are
going go get your head blown off.


You're a liar.


BTW, which is it for you? Previously conviction or admission or
psychological problems?


* Not bloody likely cops are going to be busting in my door.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Pffffttt.. you are funny... what "is, is"?


So, why can't you purchase a firearm, **** for brains? Conviction? Plea?
Psycho?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Never said I couldn't purchace a firearm.. Hey, for all you know, I
could already have it. Anyway, I won't talk about it with you or
anybody else, I can say for sure I won't be sitting around my house
dry firing a handgun trying to impress someone on the phone. You are
completely irresponsible, I still would like to hear what JPS has to
say about an unstable, paranoid idiot like you having a capgun... But
of course, he is not interested in discussion, only trolling...

[email protected] April 28th 09 09:22 PM

Arlen Specter to switch political parties
 
On Apr 28, 2:30*pm, HK wrote:
jps wrote:
On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 13:03:28 -0400, HK wrote:


wrote:


As opposed to a criminal congress bought and paid for by big
corporations like GE and lazy union bitches... I guess your ideal
government is one that doesn't reach across the isle, do business in
the open, or allow free speech... America as we know it is ****ed.
Time to stock up on ammo...
What are you going to do with the ammo? If you fill out the federal form
honestly, you won't be able to buy a handgun.


This is just the sort of imbalanced jerk that psychological tests for
gun ownership *should ferret out as a threat to himself and others.


Unfortunately, there is no psychological testing for suitability to buy
a firearm.


If there were, you certainly wouldn't have one.

[email protected] April 28th 09 09:22 PM

Arlen Specter to switch political parties
 
On Apr 28, 2:31*pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Apr 28, 1:59 pm, jps wrote:
On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 13:03:28 -0400, HK wrote:
wrote:
As opposed to a criminal congress bought and paid for by big
corporations like GE and lazy union bitches... I guess your ideal
government is one that doesn't reach across the isle, do business in
the open, or allow free speech... America as we know it is ****ed.
Time to stock up on ammo...
What are you going to do with the ammo? If you fill out the federal form
honestly, you won't be able to buy a handgun.
This is just the sort of imbalanced jerk that psychological tests for
gun ownership *should ferret out as a threat to himself and others.


Oh yeah, and your lover Harry has even said he would shoot cops if
they came to his door at night.. You really need to be better informed
before you throw around your silly bull****.... So, how do you feel
about Harry having guns? I will expect the usual insults and
deflection, anything but an answer...


No, **** for brains, I never said anything like that. Anyone can come to
my door without a problem. It's what happens after that that matters.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Harry, you've stated right here in this forum that you answer your
door with a shotgun. Are you going to deny that you said that?

HK April 28th 09 09:24 PM

Arlen Specter to switch political parties
 
wrote:
On Apr 28, 3:54 pm, HK wrote:


Never said I couldn't purchace a firearm.. Hey, for all you know, I
could already have it.



snerk


jps April 28th 09 09:38 PM

Arlen Specter to switch political parties
 
On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 13:08:12 -0700 (PDT), wf3h
wrote:

On Apr 28, 1:59*pm, jps wrote:
On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 13:03:28 -0400, HK wrote:
wrote:
As opposed to a criminal congress bought and paid for by big
corporations like GE and lazy union bitches... I guess your ideal
government is one that doesn't reach across the isle, do business in
the open, or allow free speech... America as we know it is ****ed.
Time to stock up on ammo...


What are you going to do with the ammo? If you fill out the federal form
honestly, you won't be able to buy a handgun.


This is just the sort of imbalanced jerk that psychological tests for
gun ownership *should ferret out as a threat to himself and others.


my hometown is pittsburgh. having seen what the gun crowd did to
police officers there recently, i'm even more inclined to advocate
repeal of the 2nd amendment. the more i see about gun nuts, the more i
know the 2nd is dangerous for freedom.



The need for militias went out the window when the US decided to
maintain standing armies in the 1950s.

I still consider hunting an honorable pursuit if it's not just for
sport but for sustenance.

The NRA, gun manufacturers and politicians end up protecting
vigilantes. Until they're personally affected by one of these
paranoid idiots, they'll continue to succumb to political pressure.

What they've allowed is a profusion of weapons, many of which are now
making into the hands of less responsible or ill-intentioned humans.

It's screwed up and out of control.

jps April 28th 09 09:46 PM

Arlen Specter to switch political parties
 
On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 15:56:08 -0400, HK wrote:

wf3h wrote:
On Apr 28, 8:18 am, HK wrote:
By DAVID ESPO, AP Special Correspondent David Espo, Ap Special
Correspondent – 3 mins ago

WASHINGTON – Several officials say veteran Republican Sen. Arlen Specter
of Pennsylvania intends to switch parties, advancing his own hopes of
winning a new term next year while pushing Democrats one step closer to
a 60-vote filibuster-resistant majority.


good move for him as many of us moderate democrats have been voting
for him for years. glad to see he recognized the reality.

and it looks like the GOP in PA may be dying, or at least becoming a
party of angry white conservative males...http://
tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/04/why-specter-did-it----and-had-to-
do-it.php

doesn't bode well for the GOP in PA



It's sorta fun to watch the current iteration of GOP head over Niagara
Falls sans barrel.

Maybe the GOP will be born again, but without the Crazy Christians and
the neocons.


The barrel is being provided courtesy Boner, Cantor, McConnell,
Limbaugh, Hannity and Beck.

They've marginalized the party to the point of being small enough to,
as Grover Norquist once pined, "drown in a bathtub."

In soccer this is referred to as an own goal.

Eisboch[_4_] April 28th 09 10:05 PM

Arlen Specter to switch political parties
 

"HK" wrote in message
m...


59 seats and counting...if Franken is seated, that makes a filibuster
proof Democratic majority in the Senate on many Democratic issues, and a
further decline for the crazy conservative Republicans.



The Dems can have Specter. He'll be a credit to the party, I am sure.
(barf)
He has only one thing and one person's interests in mind and to hell with
anyone else, Republican or Democrat. Good riddance.

Eisboch


jps April 28th 09 10:09 PM

Arlen Specter to switch political parties
 
On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 17:05:24 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:


"HK" wrote in message
om...


59 seats and counting...if Franken is seated, that makes a filibuster
proof Democratic majority in the Senate on many Democratic issues, and a
further decline for the crazy conservative Republicans.



The Dems can have Specter. He'll be a credit to the party, I am sure.
(barf)
He has only one thing and one person's interests in mind and to hell with
anyone else, Republican or Democrat. Good riddance.

Eisboch


Yes, and Boner, Cantor, McConnell and Gingrich are selfless.

Eisboch[_4_] April 28th 09 10:52 PM

Arlen Specter to switch political parties
 

"jps" wrote in message
...


The Dems can have Specter. He'll be a credit to the party, I am sure.
(barf)
He has only one thing and one person's interests in mind and to hell with
anyone else, Republican or Democrat. Good riddance.

Eisboch




Yes, and Boner, Cantor, McConnell and Gingrich are selfless.


They have nothing to do with it.
Anybody who is a fan of and follows the New England Patriots has no love for
Arlen Specter.

Eisboch


jps April 28th 09 11:05 PM

Arlen Specter to switch political parties
 
On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 17:52:21 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:


"jps" wrote in message
.. .


The Dems can have Specter. He'll be a credit to the party, I am sure.
(barf)
He has only one thing and one person's interests in mind and to hell with
anyone else, Republican or Democrat. Good riddance.

Eisboch




Yes, and Boner, Cantor, McConnell and Gingrich are selfless.


They have nothing to do with it.
Anybody who is a fan of and follows the New England Patriots has no love for
Arlen Specter.

Eisboch


The Patriots were good enough to win without cheating. If you want to
direct your anger towards someone, I think your man is Belichick.

Have you become sensitive to Republican senators passing judgement on
American's morals?

Eisboch[_4_] April 28th 09 11:20 PM

Arlen Specter to switch political parties
 

"jps" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 17:52:21 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:


"jps" wrote in message
. ..


The Dems can have Specter. He'll be a credit to the party, I am sure.
(barf)
He has only one thing and one person's interests in mind and to hell
with
anyone else, Republican or Democrat. Good riddance.

Eisboch



Yes, and Boner, Cantor, McConnell and Gingrich are selfless.


They have nothing to do with it.
Anybody who is a fan of and follows the New England Patriots has no love
for
Arlen Specter.

Eisboch


The Patriots were good enough to win without cheating. If you want to
direct your anger towards someone, I think your man is Belichick.

Have you become sensitive to Republican senators passing judgement on
American's morals?


You don't want to go there. Specter's "morals" had nothing to do with
Belichick and everything to do with his relationship with cable companies
and who butters the bread.

Eisboch


jps April 28th 09 11:24 PM

Arlen Specter to switch political parties
 
On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 18:20:34 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:


"jps" wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 17:52:21 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:


"jps" wrote in message
...


The Dems can have Specter. He'll be a credit to the party, I am sure.
(barf)
He has only one thing and one person's interests in mind and to hell
with
anyone else, Republican or Democrat. Good riddance.

Eisboch



Yes, and Boner, Cantor, McConnell and Gingrich are selfless.

They have nothing to do with it.
Anybody who is a fan of and follows the New England Patriots has no love
for
Arlen Specter.

Eisboch


The Patriots were good enough to win without cheating. If you want to
direct your anger towards someone, I think your man is Belichick.

Have you become sensitive to Republican senators passing judgement on
American's morals?


You don't want to go there. Specter's "morals" had nothing to do with
Belichick and everything to do with his relationship with cable companies
and who butters the bread.

Eisboch


That's what our fine congress is paid to do, look out for their
contributors -- uh, I mean constituents.

Wizard of Woodstock April 28th 09 11:51 PM

Arlen Specter to switch political parties
 
On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 17:05:24 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:


"HK" wrote in message
om...


59 seats and counting...if Franken is seated, that makes a filibuster
proof Democratic majority in the Senate on many Democratic issues, and a
further decline for the crazy conservative Republicans.



The Dems can have Specter. He'll be a credit to the party, I am sure.
(barf)
He has only one thing and one person's interests in mind and to hell with
anyone else, Republican or Democrat. Good riddance.


Hope he takes the Sob Sisters from Maine with him.

It's going to be sooooo much fun watching him lose his seat.

jps April 29th 09 12:01 AM

Arlen Specter to switch political parties
 
On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 18:51:55 -0400, Wizard of Woodstock
wrote:

On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 17:05:24 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:


"HK" wrote in message
news:GaudnXumQtJRsGrUnZ2dnUVZ_jpi4p2d@earthlink. com...


59 seats and counting...if Franken is seated, that makes a filibuster
proof Democratic majority in the Senate on many Democratic issues, and a
further decline for the crazy conservative Republicans.



The Dems can have Specter. He'll be a credit to the party, I am sure.
(barf)
He has only one thing and one person's interests in mind and to hell with
anyone else, Republican or Democrat. Good riddance.


Hope he takes the Sob Sisters from Maine with him.

It's going to be sooooo much fun watching him lose his seat.


To another Democrat in the primary?

We'd be pleased to have the Sob Sisters. By losing all three moderate
R's would be further marginalized and viewed as a party which caters
only to hard core righties.

With the baptists exiting and the evangelicals catching on, the only
large blocs will be the rich and the poor suckers.

A beer sponsorship may help keep the suckers in line. I recommend a
call to Peter Coors, son of Adolf.


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