On Sat, 11 Apr 2009 16:33:24 -0400, John H
wrote:

I heard that also. Here. I've never heard that small arms used for
protection were not allowed aboard ships in port. A .50 cal can be put
in a locked wall locker when in port. What horse****.

Actually, even handguns are a no no most places. A fifty is not a
small arm.

Casady

On Apr 11, 9:20*pm, Richard Casady

Actually, even handguns are a no no most places. A fifty is not a
small arm.

Casady

in fact, a ma-duce (M-2) isn't classified as a "machine gun" By the
BATF, it is classified as a "destructive device"

And justifiably so...

"Tim" wrote in message
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On Apr 11, 9:20 pm, Richard Casady

Actually, even handguns are a no no most places. A fifty is not a
small arm.

Casady

in fact, a ma-duce (M-2) isn't classified as a "machine gun" By the
BATF, it is classified as a "destructive device"

And justifiably so...


All machine gun are a "Destructive Device" according to the ATF rules.

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On Sat, 11 Apr 2009 22:15:09 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

in fact, a ma-duce (M-2) isn't classified as a "machine gun" By the
BATF, it is classified as a "destructive device"

You are going to have to cite that.
"Destructive devices" start at over .5" bore and M2s are listed in the
machine gun registry.
I know someone here in Ft Myers who has one and there was one for sale
on subguns.com last year. (actually a nice piece, the "Pearl Harbor"
movie water cooled model)

I understand you have to get a Federal Destructive Weapons Permit for any
fully auto gun. They are considered Title II weapons, along with silencers,
Short Barrel shotguns.

On Apr 12, 11:29*am, wrote:
On Sat, 11 Apr 2009 22:15:09 -0700, "Calif Bill"

wrote:
in fact, a ma-duce (M-2) isn't classified as a "machine gun" By the
BATF, it is classified as a "destructive device"

You are going to have to cite that.
"Destructive devices" start at over .5" bore and M2s are listed in the
machine gun registry.
I know someone here in Ft Myers who has one and there was one for sale
on subguns.com last year. (actually a nice piece, the "Pearl Harbor"
movie water cooled model)

Here's what I was agreeing with:

http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/top...l_Firearms_Act

5. Destructive Devices (DDs) - there are two broad classes of
destructive devices. The first contains devices such as grenades,
bombs, poison gas weapons, etc. The second contains any non-sporting
firearm with a bore over 0.50" (many firearms with bores over 0.50",
such as 12-gauge shotguns, are exempted from the law because they have
been determined to have a legitimate sporting use).

On Sun, 12 Apr 2009 19:22:40 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Apr 12, 11:29*am, wrote:
On Sat, 11 Apr 2009 22:15:09 -0700, "Calif Bill"

wrote:
in fact, a ma-duce (M-2) isn't classified as a "machine gun" By the
BATF, it is classified as a "destructive device"

You are going to have to cite that.
"Destructive devices" start at over .5" bore and M2s are listed in the
machine gun registry.
I know someone here in Ft Myers who has one and there was one for sale
on subguns.com last year. (actually a nice piece, the "Pearl Harbor"
movie water cooled model)

Here's what I was agreeing with:

http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/top...l_Firearms_Act

5. Destructive Devices (DDs) - there are two broad classes of
destructive devices. The first contains devices such as grenades,
bombs, poison gas weapons, etc. The second contains any non-sporting
firearm with a bore over 0.50" (many firearms with bores over 0.50",
such as 12-gauge shotguns, are exempted from the law because they have
been determined to have a legitimate sporting use).

Wouldn't the 'over 0,50" ' exclude the .50 calibre?
--
John H

"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those
who are willing to work and give to those who would not."
Thomas Jefferson

On Sat, 11 Apr 2009 19:42:23 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Apr 11, 9:20*pm, Richard Casady

Actually, even handguns are a no no most places. A fifty is not a
small arm.

Casady

in fact, a ma-duce (M-2) isn't classified as a "machine gun" By the
BATF, it is classified as a "destructive device"

And justifiably so...

Yeah, but they're sure fun to shoot, and you know it!
--
John H

"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those
who are willing to work and give to those who would not."
Thomas Jefferson

On Sat, 11 Apr 2009 21:20:00 -0500, Richard Casady
wrote:

On Sat, 11 Apr 2009 16:33:24 -0400, John H
wrote:

I heard that also. Here. I've never heard that small arms used for
protection were not allowed aboard ships in port. A .50 cal can be put
in a locked wall locker when in port. What horse****.

Actually, even handguns are a no no most places. A fifty is not a
small arm.

Casady

Sounds like a good place to have a .50 Cal rental business. Anchor
offshore, rent out the baby cannons, have another boat on the southern
end waiting to pick 'em up.
--
John H

"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those
who are willing to work and give to those who would not."
Thomas Jefferson

"Richard Casady" wrote in message
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On Sat, 11 Apr 2009 16:33:24 -0400, John H
wrote:

I heard that also. Here. I've never heard that small arms used for
protection were not allowed aboard ships in port. A .50 cal can be put
in a locked wall locker when in port. What horse****.

Actually, even handguns are a no no most places. A fifty is not a
small arm.

Casady

How about a cross bow and tear gas? Drop in into the boat, and there are
arrow tips that will do at least as much damage as a magnum 45.

But I guess I couldn't be a Captian, I would fight. Makes me wonder if some
of this isn't staged for insurance money.