On Mon, 23 Mar 2009 08:50:18 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

on its way into the sewer. So what else is new? Last
time it happened was 1932.

When the repubs had control.
--
Cliff

On Mon, 23 Mar 2009 16:08:46 -0300, "Don White" wrote:

Guns keep creeping over the border to infest our cities.

Mexico say they are coming FROM the US.
They checked & traced the serial numbers ....
--
Cliff

On Mon, 23 Mar 2009 17:30:23 -0400, HK wrote:

Gunner Asch wrote:
On Mon, 23 Mar 2009 16:08:46 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:

"wf3h" wrote in message
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On Mar 23, 11:49 am, Jim Chandler wrote:
On Mon, 23 Mar 2009 05:28:52 -0700 (PDT), wf3h
wrote:





On Mar 22, 7:10 pm, Jim Chandler wrote:
On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 05:17:18 -0400, Cliff wrote:
On Fri, 20 Mar 2009 10:22:30 -0500, "P" wrote:
"Scott" wrote in message
m...
P wrote:
"Scott" wrote in message
m...
P wrote:
"Scott" wrote in message
m...
P wrote:
Rather racist, don't you think?
STFU
C'mon Scott, tell us how you REALLY feel!
OK;
I am sick of pious, self-aggrandizing people, such as yourself,
who
cant laugh at humor, but instead turn a simple joke (you might
want
to look that up) into yet another opportunity to testify to your
own
terrific goodness.
By stereotyping.
Scott,
My sole intent was to start a dialogue, which seemed to work.
Maybe
you should look up the word, "sarcasm"?
Noted.
And I offer an appology to you.
Scott
Thanks. The mark of a mature man (Cliff - take note).
He probaby thinks you have more guns than he has.
BTW,The NRA has the wingers in a feeding frenzy at the gun shops ...
The rise in gun sales is due to one thing and one thing only.
America's number one gun salesman....Barack Obama! The NRA had
nothing to do with it. Only a small percentage of those buying guns
and ammo since his election are NRA members.
i love it.
the NRA whips its sheep into a feeding frenzy based on no information
at all...and then blames it on obama...
gun owners are the most gullible folks, outside of creationists, in
the US.
I find it interesting that, as an NRA member and instructor, I have
seen no whippiong the members into a frenzy.
really? no 'obama's gonna confiscate all guns; congress is going to
reimpose the assault weapons ban, yadda yadda'?

gee....mebbe you think NRA stands for 'national recovery act' under
FDR. i live in PA. i can't tell you how many NRA members i had shriek
at me before the election last year about obama...and how many tell
me know they're buying guns because obama wants to confiscate them
all...

As I previously stated,
and which you either could not read or chose to ignore, NRA members
are but a small part of the overall number of gun owners. The
gullible are the liberals who believe that Obama will save the country
and that stupid gun control laws work.

i dont believe in gun CONTROL

i believe the 2nd should be repealed and guns should be banned. big
difference.

************************************************** ***********

Hopefully, someone down there will ban...or at least severely restrict
handgun ownership.
Guns keep creeping over the border to infest our cities.

Ayup...no matter how hard and devieous the attempts to restrict the
citzens freedoms...the 2nd Amendment is always kept alive.

And thanks be to its defenders.

And god damn those who are its detractors.

Gunner



Gummy! I had heard your body had followed your mind into death. Guess
those reports of your body's demise were overly hopeful!


Far too early by decades actually. Ill be kicking around for another
30 yrs, maybe longer. Im just taking it easy for acouple months to let
all the repaired stuff heal back together and learn to take things a
bit easier. Im only 55, but the body had been running at 70 for a few
years, from the looks of it. A bit of repair, some new veins and
whatnot..giving up smoking, the usual and in a couple months, Ill be
back to my 40s again

Gunner

On Mar 21, 5:17*am, Cliff wrote:
On Fri, 20 Mar 2009 10:22:30 -0500, "P" wrote:

"Scott" wrote in message
om...
P wrote:
"Scott" wrote in message
om...
P wrote:
"Scott" wrote in message
news:O_mdnfj2Y5lBkSLUnZ2dnUVZ_gyWnZ2d@supernews .com...
P wrote:

Rather racist, don't you think?

STFU

C'mon Scott, tell us how you REALLY feel!

OK;

I am sick of pious, self-aggrandizing people, such as yourself, who
cant laugh at humor, but instead turn a simple joke (you might want
to look that up) into yet another opportunity to testify to your own
terrific goodness.

By stereotyping.

Scott,

My sole intent was to start a dialogue, which seemed to work. Maybe
you should look up the word, "sarcasm"?

Noted.

And I offer an appology to you.

Scott

Thanks. The mark of a mature man (Cliff - take note).

* He probaby thinks you have more guns than he has.

* BTW,The NRA has the wingers in a feeding frenzy at the gun shops ...
--
Cliff

It isn't the NRA.

It's the comments of the present Attorney General's claims of what
Obama wants to accomplish WRT another gun ban with some "slight"
improvements.

On Mar 23, 2:43*pm, wf3h wrote:

i dont believe in gun CONTROL

i believe the 2nd should be repealed and guns should be banned. big
difference.

There are other places you can go live that will give you your wish.
Go there.

On Mar 23, 6:11*pm, Cliff wrote:
On Mon, 23 Mar 2009 16:08:46 -0300, "Don White" wrote:
Guns keep creeping over the border to infest our cities.

* Mexico say they are coming FROM the US.
* They checked & traced the serial numbers ....
--
Cliff

Perhaps they need to practice some border control.

On Mon, 23 Mar 2009 17:05:28 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 23 Mar 2009 15:35:59 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Mon, 23 Mar 2009 13:15:02 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 23 Mar 2009 05:28:52 -0700 (PDT), wf3h
wrote:

the NRA whips its sheep into a feeding frenzy based on no information
at all...and then blames it on obama...

It doesn't take much "whipping". You just need to read HR45.

Wow. Hadn't seen that one. Here's a summary.

1/6/2009--Introduced.
Blair Holt's Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act of 2009 - Amends
the Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act to prohibit a person from
possessing a firearm unless that person has been issued a firearm
license under this Act or a state system certified under this Act and
such license has not been invalidated or revoked. Prescribes license
application, issuance, and renewal requirements.
Prohibits transferring or receiving a qualifying firearm unless the
recipient presents a valid firearms license, the license is verified,
and the dealer records a tracking authorization number. Prescribes
firearms transfer reporting and record keeping requirements. Directs
the Attorney General to establish and maintain a federal record of
sale system.
Prohibits: (1) transferring a firearm to any person other than a
licensee, unless the transfer is processed through a licensed dealer
in accordance with national instant criminal background check system
requirements, with exceptions; (2) a licensed manufacturer or dealer
from failing to comply with reporting and record keeping requirements
of this Act; (3) failing to report the loss or theft of the firearm to
the Attorney General within 72 hours; (4) failing to report to the
Attorney General an address change within 60 days; or (5) keeping a
loaded firearm, or an unloaded firearm and ammunition for the firearm,
knowingly or recklessly disregarding the risk that a child is capable
of gaining access, if a child uses the firearm and causes death or
serious bodily injury.
Prescribes criminal penalties for violations of firearms provisions
covered by this Act.
Directs the Attorney General to: (1) establish and maintain a firearm
injury information clearinghouse; (2) conduct continuing studies and
investigations of firearm-related deaths and injuries; and (3) collect
and maintain current production and sales figures of each licensed
manufacturer.
Authorizes the Attorney General to certify state firearm licensing or
record of sale systems.

Keeping track of all that would add a few thousand more to the
government roles!

You missed the $25 per gun "tax" that will start out being once every
5 years but I am sure will go higher and be annual. That is in
addition to the application fees (one each).

My guess, it will simply make instant felons out of tens of millions
of Americans who will wait for it to be struck down in the SCOTUS.
(much like the short lived federal boat license that I never got).

If these laws are so effective, why is California the biggest exporter
of "assault weapons" into Mexico? They still have the AWB there.
Most of these things come from China in the first place so direct
shipment into latin America (or wherever the cocaine and heroin comes
from) is not that hard. These guys are moving tons of white powder at
a time. It is ludicrous to assume they can't move guns if they want
them.
If Bill Clinton wanted to stop the import of Chinese AK47 variants and
other "ugly gun clones", why didn't he simply put that into the TRADE
bill and call it "protecting Springfield Armory and Colt" ? ... Oh
maybe it was because the Chinese wouldn't let him.
They sold us over 2 million "thumbhole" (AKA loophole) guns DURING the
ban.
I don't hear much about the bad guys running around with $2000
Springfield armory M1As. It is the $300 AK

Yup, the summary didn't mention money, but it had to be part of the
deal.

I guess I'll be another gun owning felon.
--

John H

"My reading of history convinces me that most bad government
results from too much government."

Thomas Jefferson

"Jim Chandler" wrote

The rise in gun sales is due to one thing and one thing only.
America's number one gun salesman....Barack Obama! The NRA had
nothing to do with it. Only a small percentage of those buying guns
and ammo since his election are NRA members.

Jim

I find it somewhat reassuring to see all the new people at the gun shows,
pawn shops and gun shops. Looks like a lot of "closet wingers" are coming
out. BTW, my sister-in-law just got her first gun, a new 9mm KAHR. Lovely
piece. Both of them. I love the way the KAHR fits in my hand, but can only
dream of that other piece.

Steve

On Mon, 23 Mar 2009 15:22:25 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On Mar 23, 2:43*pm, wf3h wrote:

i dont believe in gun CONTROL

i believe the 2nd should be repealed and guns should be banned. big
difference.

There are other places you can go live that will give you your wish.
Go there.


Though they will likely stab him there....shrug

Gunner

On Mar 23, 9:38*pm, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Mon, 23 Mar 2009 15:22:25 -0700 (PDT),

wrote:
On Mar 23, 2:43*pm, wf3h wrote:

i dont believe in gun CONTROL

i believe the 2nd should be repealed and guns should be banned. big
difference.

There are other places you can go live that will give you your wish.
Go there.

Though they will likely stab him there....shrug

Gunner

He'll whip out his trusty j-38 and telegraph for help.