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Don White March 24th 09 06:50 PM

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You claim to follow economics so please tell us a country where
central planning and tight government control has brought the
kind
of
prosperity that the USA has seen to this point. All I am looking
for
is the name of the country that is socialist or communist that
has
a
higher standard of living than the USA.
Maybe you feel you have a high standard of living..what with your
two
BMWs and excessive income ( as you boast about).
What about all the American families that have to get by on less
than
$70K per year....or even $50K?
I'm sure they don't feel their standard of living is all that
great.
Richard did not come from wealth from what I read. He worked hard,
took
chances and scored. Took a lot of years. I worked and paid my way
through university. Took 10 years. I worked overtime, bought a
business that my buddy and I ran that for years while still keeping
our
other jobs. I am comfortable, maybe not as comfortable as Eisboch,
but
he worked hard. You, on the other hand, were a 40 hour a week if
that
Crown Employee. Did not gamble a lot of your money and assets on
running a business or growing a business. Did not work 60-80 hours
a
week working. My nephew, works a couple days a week, did not finish
college, and complains of no money. No work ethic. A major problem
in
the poor in this country. Why work hard when society will give you
the
equivalent of about $18k a year, including medical. And you can
work
side jobs for cash. Why we have 4 and 5 generation welfare
families.
An about 60% high school drop out rate in areas of the country.
Lots
of
families live on less than $50k a year. But they do not buy
expensive
cars, or even new economy cars. They live in 1100 ' sq houses, and
not
McMansions. They live within their means. Too many want the life
style
of the rich and famous without the work required. Some are there
because of circumstances. A bad illness in the family, etc. But
those
are a minority. Most are there because of a bad work ethic. Even
the
lower IQ people hold a lot of decent paying jobs. They can not be
an
electrical engineer, but they can clerk at a department store, take
money at the 7/11, etc. Why do we see so many immigrants running
grocery stores, donut shops, nail salons, and other hard, time
consuming
business endevors. Because they have a work ethic. Plus they do not
overspend. Live within their means. You leased a truck 3 years ago.
Now
bought a Rav4. How much a year has those vehicles cost you? I just
bought a new Vensa for the wife. Nice car by the way. $38k sticker.
Replacing a 1996 car with 145k miles. What is my cost of vehicles
per
year?
Drinking again Kalif Swill??
I was replying to..and referring to *BAR* with my comments.
I would have assumed you were drinking, but I think you are just
stupid.
Don't think...it's not your strong suit!- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


At least he's credible. You're starting to lie as much as your lover/
master/clone Harry. Speaking of which, where are those "facts" you
claim you have about me?


************************************************** **************


Are you really that dumb?
A good poker player doesn't reveal his cards before he has to.
All things come to those who wait!


Speaking of loonies...they arrived. Including one odder than the rest.


Will take care of reciprocals this week.


h.


That odd one is a 'toonie'....a $2.00 coin
Just to remind you of LooneyTunes.............. that is..loonies &
toonies.
Good thing the Canadian Government held off on the five dollar coin. We'd
be walking around with our pants down around our ankles. ;-)- Hide quoted
text -

- Show quoted text -


Wow, Donny talking to Harry about having his pants down around his
ankles........
That's WAY beyond ironic!

************************************************

Especially when we're talking about loonies & toonies...that is...
LooneyTunes!



HK March 24th 09 07:03 PM

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You claim to follow economics so please tell us a country where
central planning and tight government control has brought the
kind
of
prosperity that the USA has seen to this point. All I am looking
for
is the name of the country that is socialist or communist that
has
a
higher standard of living than the USA.
Maybe you feel you have a high standard of living..what with your
two
BMWs and excessive income ( as you boast about).
What about all the American families that have to get by on less
than
$70K per year....or even $50K?
I'm sure they don't feel their standard of living is all that
great.
Richard did not come from wealth from what I read. He worked hard,
took
chances and scored. Took a lot of years. I worked and paid my way
through university. Took 10 years. I worked overtime, bought a
business that my buddy and I ran that for years while still keeping
our
other jobs. I am comfortable, maybe not as comfortable as Eisboch,
but
he worked hard. You, on the other hand, were a 40 hour a week if
that
Crown Employee. Did not gamble a lot of your money and assets on
running a business or growing a business. Did not work 60-80 hours
a
week working. My nephew, works a couple days a week, did not finish
college, and complains of no money. No work ethic. A major problem
in
the poor in this country. Why work hard when society will give you
the
equivalent of about $18k a year, including medical. And you can
work
side jobs for cash. Why we have 4 and 5 generation welfare
families.
An about 60% high school drop out rate in areas of the country.
Lots
of
families live on less than $50k a year. But they do not buy
expensive
cars, or even new economy cars. They live in 1100 ' sq houses, and
not
McMansions. They live within their means. Too many want the life
style
of the rich and famous without the work required. Some are there
because of circumstances. A bad illness in the family, etc. But
those
are a minority. Most are there because of a bad work ethic. Even
the
lower IQ people hold a lot of decent paying jobs. They can not be
an
electrical engineer, but they can clerk at a department store, take
money at the 7/11, etc. Why do we see so many immigrants running
grocery stores, donut shops, nail salons, and other hard, time
consuming
business endevors. Because they have a work ethic. Plus they do not
overspend. Live within their means. You leased a truck 3 years ago.
Now
bought a Rav4. How much a year has those vehicles cost you? I just
bought a new Vensa for the wife. Nice car by the way. $38k sticker.
Replacing a 1996 car with 145k miles. What is my cost of vehicles
per
year?
Drinking again Kalif Swill??
I was replying to..and referring to *BAR* with my comments.
I would have assumed you were drinking, but I think you are just
stupid.
Don't think...it's not your strong suit!- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
At least he's credible. You're starting to lie as much as your lover/
master/clone Harry. Speaking of which, where are those "facts" you
claim you have about me?
************************************************** **************
Are you really that dumb?
A good poker player doesn't reveal his cards before he has to.
All things come to those who wait!
Speaking of loonies...they arrived. Including one odder than the rest.
Will take care of reciprocals this week.
h.

That odd one is a 'toonie'....a $2.00 coin
Just to remind you of LooneyTunes.............. that is..loonies &
toonies.
Good thing the Canadian Government held off on the five dollar coin. We'd
be walking around with our pants down around our ankles. ;-)- Hide quoted
text -

- Show quoted text -


Wow, Donny talking to Harry about having his pants down around his
ankles........
That's WAY beyond ironic!

************************************************

Especially when we're talking about loonies & toonies...that is...
LooneyTunes!




At some point, a country will issue a coin called a "stupido," and it
will have a likeness of our boy Loogy Basskisser stamped into it.


[email protected] March 24th 09 08:11 PM

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You claim to follow economics so please tell us a country where
central planning and tight government control has brought the
kind
of
prosperity that the USA has seen to this point. All I am looking
for
is the name of the country that is socialist or communist that
has
a
higher standard of living than the USA.
Maybe you feel you have a high standard of living..what with your
two
BMWs and excessive income ( as you boast about).
What about all the American families that have to get by on less
than
$70K per year....or even $50K?
I'm sure they don't feel their standard of living is all that
great.
Richard did not come from wealth from what I read. He worked hard,
took
chances and scored. Took a lot of years. I worked and paid my way
through university. Took 10 years. I worked overtime, bought a
business that my buddy and I ran that for years while still keeping
our
other jobs. I am comfortable, maybe not as comfortable as Eisboch,
but
he worked hard. You, on the other hand, were a 40 hour a week if
that
Crown Employee. Did not gamble a lot of your money and assets on
running a business or growing a business. Did not work 60-80 hours
a
week working. My nephew, works a couple days a week, did not finish
college, and complains of no money. No work ethic. A major problem
in
the poor in this country. Why work hard when society will give you
the
equivalent of about $18k a year, including medical. And you can
work
side jobs for cash. Why we have 4 and 5 generation welfare
families.
An about 60% high school drop out rate in areas of the country.
Lots
of
families live on less than $50k a year. But they do not buy
expensive
cars, or even new economy cars. They live in 1100 ' sq houses, and
not
McMansions. They live within their means. Too many want the life
style
of the rich and famous without the work required. Some are there
because of circumstances. A bad illness in the family, etc. But
those
are a minority. Most are there because of a bad work ethic. Even
the
lower IQ people hold a lot of decent paying jobs. They can not be
an
electrical engineer, but they can clerk at a department store, take
money at the 7/11, etc. Why do we see so many immigrants running
grocery stores, donut shops, nail salons, and other hard, time
consuming
business endevors. Because they have a work ethic. Plus they do not
overspend. Live within their means. You leased a truck 3 years ago.
Now
bought a Rav4. How much a year has those vehicles cost you? I just
bought a new Vensa for the wife. Nice car by the way. $38k sticker.
Replacing a 1996 car with 145k miles. What is my cost of vehicles
per
year?
Drinking again Kalif Swill??
I was replying to..and referring to *BAR* with my comments.
I would have assumed you were drinking, but I think you are just
stupid.
Don't think...it's not your strong suit!- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


At least he's credible. You're starting to lie as much as your lover/
master/clone Harry. Speaking of which, where are those "facts" you
claim you have about me?


************************************************** **************


Are you really that dumb?
A good poker player doesn't reveal his cards before he has to.
All things come to those who wait!


Speaking of loonies...they arrived. Including one odder than the rest..


Will take care of reciprocals this week.


h.


That odd one is a 'toonie'....a $2.00 coin
Just to remind you of LooneyTunes.............. that is..loonies &
toonies.
Good thing the Canadian Government held off on the five dollar coin. We'd
be walking around with our pants down around our ankles. ;-)- Hide quoted
text -


- Show quoted text -


Wow, Donny talking to Harry about having his pants down around his
ankles........
That's WAY beyond ironic!

************************************************

Especially when we're talking about loonies & toonies...that is...
LooneyTunes!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


You can talk about whatever monetary amounts you WANT, it's still all-
telling that you dream of your pants down around your ankles when
communicating with Harry. Now, where ARE those "facts" you claim to
have?

Don White March 24th 09 08:39 PM

OT Confiscatory taxation
 

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snip usual stupidity....

Now, where ARE those "facts" you claim to
have?

************************************************** **

"Facts"? You couldn't handle the "facts"!



GC Boater March 24th 09 09:16 PM

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On Mar 24, 3:11*pm, wrote:
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You claim to follow economics so please tell us a country where
central planning and tight government control has brought the
kind
of
prosperity that the USA has seen to this point. All I am looking
for
is the name of the country that is socialist or communist that
has
a
higher standard of living than the USA.
Maybe you feel you have a high standard of living..what with your
two
BMWs and excessive income ( as you boast about).
What about all the American families that have to get by on less
than
$70K per year....or even $50K?
I'm sure they don't feel their standard of living is all that
great.
Richard did not come from wealth from what I read. He worked hard,
took
chances and scored. Took a lot of years. I worked and paid my way
through university. Took 10 years. I worked overtime, bought a
business that my buddy and I ran that for years while still keeping
our
other jobs. I am comfortable, maybe not as comfortable as Eisboch,
but
he worked hard. You, on the other hand, were a 40 hour a week if
that
Crown Employee. Did not gamble a lot of your money and assets on
running a business or growing a business. Did not work 60-80 hours
a
week working. My nephew, works a couple days a week, did not finish
college, and complains of no money. No work ethic. A major problem
in
the poor in this country. Why work hard when society will give you
the
equivalent of about $18k a year, including medical. And you can
work
side jobs for cash. Why we have 4 and 5 generation welfare
families.
An about 60% high school drop out rate in areas of the country..
Lots
of
families live on less than $50k a year. But they do not buy
expensive
cars, or even new economy cars. They live in 1100 ' sq houses, and
not
McMansions. They live within their means. Too many want the life
style
of the rich and famous without the work required. Some are there
because of circumstances. A bad illness in the family, etc. But
those
are a minority. Most are there because of a bad work ethic. Even
the
lower IQ people hold a lot of decent paying jobs. They can not be
an
electrical engineer, but they can clerk at a department store, take
money at the 7/11, etc. Why do we see so many immigrants running
grocery stores, donut shops, nail salons, and other hard, time
consuming
business endevors. Because they have a work ethic. Plus they do not
overspend. Live within their means. You leased a truck 3 years ago.
Now
bought a Rav4. How much a year has those vehicles cost you? I just
bought a new Vensa for the wife. Nice car by the way. $38k sticker.
Replacing a 1996 car with 145k miles. What is my cost of vehicles
per
year?
Drinking again Kalif Swill??
I was replying to..and referring to *BAR* with my comments.
I would have assumed you were drinking, but I think you are just
stupid.
Don't think...it's not your strong suit!- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


At least he's credible. You're starting to lie as much as your lover/
master/clone Harry. Speaking of which, where are those "facts" you
claim you have about me?


************************************************** **************


Are you really that dumb?
A good poker player doesn't reveal his cards before he has to.
All things come to those who wait!


Speaking of loonies...they arrived. Including one odder than the rest.


Will take care of reciprocals this week.


h.


That odd one is a 'toonie'....a $2.00 coin
Just to remind you of LooneyTunes.............. that is..loonies &
toonies.
Good thing the Canadian Government held off on the five dollar coin. We'd
be walking around with our pants down around our ankles. ;-)- Hide quoted
text -


- Show quoted text -


Wow, Donny talking to Harry about having his pants down around his
ankles........
That's WAY beyond ironic!


************************************************


Especially when we're talking about loonies & toonies...that is...
LooneyTunes!- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


You can talk about whatever monetary amounts you WANT, it's still all-
telling that you dream of your pants down around your ankles when
communicating with Harry. Now, where ARE those "facts" you claim to
have?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


His "facts" are the same as Krausie's: Yale / Dr-Dr / lobster boat /
CA photo shoot / etc. However, I don't think Donnie Boy has the level
of mental illness that Krausie does. He just suffers from Terminal
Dumbness.

wf3h March 25th 09 12:54 AM

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On Mar 23, 8:53*pm, BAR wrote:
wf3h wrote:
On Mar 23, 8:18 pm, BAR wrote:
wf3h wrote:
On Mar 23, 6:07 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
"wf3h" wrote in message
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On Mar 23, 12:21 am, "Calif Bill" wrote:
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On Mar 22, 12:49 am, "Calif Bill" wrote:
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On Mar 21, 9:52 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
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bush was president for about 2800 days.
obama's been president for 60.
even you should be able to do the math.
republicans reagan, bush and bush have nearly bankrupted this country.
clinton was the only president in recent history to balance the
budget.
bush starved the middle class to feed his friends at exxon. now we're
paying the price
Clinton did not balance the budget!!! He looked like it, but even
worse
he
allowed spending to grow a lot more under his watch than it should of.
gee whiz...how much is 'than it should have'? because bush ballooned
the budget out of control with his war in iraq, his tax cuts for the
super rich, etc.
He
was the fortunate recipient of tons of revenue from the Dot.com boom
that's called the 'economy'. it happens.
Nope, it was a financial disaster. Similar to what we have now, not as
big.
And caused by the same Fed screw ups on interest rates. Iraq cost less
in
7
years than Obama and this Congress have spent in the last 60 days.
iraq costs are estimated anywhere from 1-3 trillion dollars. and
you're saying that's irrelevant? i dont think so.
and they did not 'spend' this in the last 60 days. this will be spent
over the next year or so. that's called a 'budget'.
What are
your feelings one what that is going to do for the "Economy"?-
keynesian economics works. milton friedman's monetary policy worked to
a certain degree but the fed is out of options at this point since its
interest rate is now about zero.
**************
The Trillion is not the budget. That is separate pork.- Hide quoted text -
to a keynesian, it's irrelevant.
****
to you it is ignorance.-
IOW you've never taken an economics course...
figures. that's why you believe the right wing lunacy
What class do you need to take to know that increasing taxes depletes
the available capital for private sector growth.-


which, of course, is wrong. this is as stupid as saying that entropy
always increases.


taxes can INCREASE capital if *they are an investment in a 'common
good' like a road, hospital or school


Taxes are an expense


an expense can be an investment.

wf3h March 25th 09 12:56 AM

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bush was president for about 2800 days.


obama's been president for 60.


even you should be able to do the math.


republicans reagan, bush and bush have nearly bankrupted this
country.
clinton was the only president in recent history to balance the
budget.


bush starved the middle class to feed his friends at exxon. now
we're
paying the price


Clinton did not balance the budget!!! He looked like it, but even
worse
he
allowed spending to grow a lot more under his watch than it should
of.


gee whiz...how much is 'than it should have'? because bush ballooned
the budget out of control with his war in iraq, his tax cuts for the
super rich, etc.


He


was the fortunate recipient of tons of revenue from the Dot.com boom


that's called the 'economy'. it happens.


Nope, it was a financial disaster. Similar to what we have now, not as
big.
And caused by the same Fed screw ups on interest rates. Iraq cost less
in
7
years than Obama and this Congress have spent in the last 60 days.


iraq costs are estimated anywhere from 1-3 trillion dollars. and
you're saying that's irrelevant? i dont think so.


and they did not 'spend' this in the last 60 days. this will be spent
over the next year or so. that's called a 'budget'.


What are


your feelings one what that is going to do for the "Economy"?-


keynesian economics works. milton friedman's monetary policy worked to
a certain degree but the fed is out of options at this point since its
interest rate is now about zero.


**************


The Trillion is not the budget. That is separate pork.- Hide quoted
text -


to a keynesian, it's irrelevant.


****
to you it is ignorance.-


IOW you've never taken an economics course...

figures. that's why you believe the right wing lunacy

Actually I got A's in university econ classes.


joe's barber college and school of right wing mythology doesn't count

*Tell me if government spend
in so good for us, why do you complain about the cost of the Iraq war? *


because it's not an invesment that goes anywhere. does it build roads
or schools?


Why
not spend 5 trillion bucks a year in borrowed money? *You may have taken an
Econ class, but you did not retain much knowledge


if you believe the GOP propaganda you need psychotherapy not an
economics course

Calif Bill March 25th 09 01:05 AM

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Maybe your son should drink all your beer. Then you will not kill off
the *fuel brain cells* you have functioning.

How much is your yearly vehicle cost? Did you invest well while
working?


What the 'ell are "fuel brain cells"?
My yearly vehicle cost??
Since my son pays for the 07 Dodge Charger my costs for the 06 Ranger PU
have been low..... maybe $5K for lease payments, insurance & expensive
gas.
My investments were doing well until y'all down there screwed up the
worlds finances.

$5k? You have even fewer brain cells than I thought. Hell, at $250 a
month lease, and I bet is a lot bigger than that, you are sending $3000 a
year to the lease company. Probably at least $700 a year for insurance,
and the maintenance costs, plus fuel. You better recheck your figures.


Duh!
Maintenance costs on a new vehicle driven just over 6K miles a year??
How about 3 oil changes/lube at about $40. each,
Original tires still in great shape with lots of thread....don't have to
replace them when I turn the vehicle back in on the 30th.
My lease was for $269.00 per month + local tax.
As for gas...it is expensive up here ( 87 cents per liter) but I don't
burn too much.


For 6k miles a year. Rent a car when you need one.



Don White March 25th 09 03:19 AM

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Maybe your son should drink all your beer. Then you will not kill off
the *fuel brain cells* you have functioning.

How much is your yearly vehicle cost? Did you invest well while
working?


What the 'ell are "fuel brain cells"?
My yearly vehicle cost??
Since my son pays for the 07 Dodge Charger my costs for the 06 Ranger
PU have been low..... maybe $5K for lease payments, insurance &
expensive gas.
My investments were doing well until y'all down there screwed up the
worlds finances.

$5k? You have even fewer brain cells than I thought. Hell, at $250 a
month lease, and I bet is a lot bigger than that, you are sending $3000
a year to the lease company. Probably at least $700 a year for
insurance, and the maintenance costs, plus fuel. You better recheck
your figures.


Duh!
Maintenance costs on a new vehicle driven just over 6K miles a year??
How about 3 oil changes/lube at about $40. each,
Original tires still in great shape with lots of thread....don't have to
replace them when I turn the vehicle back in on the 30th.
My lease was for $269.00 per month + local tax.
As for gas...it is expensive up here ( 87 cents per liter) but I don't
burn too much.


For 6k miles a year. Rent a car when you need one.


Not practical.
The dog wants his daily drive to a local off-leash park.



HK March 25th 09 10:29 AM

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Don White wrote:
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On Mar 24, 4:39 pm, "Don White" wrote:
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snip usual stupidity....

Now, where ARE those "facts" you claim to
have?

************************************************** **

"Facts"? You couldn't handle the "facts"!


Admit it. Your credibility is in the gutter with Harry's. You lied.
You have NO facts. And you are stupidly trying to deflect when caught
in a lie, just like your lover Harry.

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Why this fascination with 'male lovers'?
Does your wife know......... I think she deserves the truth.




If she married loogy and allowed him to impregnate her, she knows the
truth by now.


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