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You claim to follow economics so please tell us a country where
central planning and tight government control has brought the kind of
prosperity that the USA has seen to this point. All I am looking for
is the name of the country that is socialist or communist that has a
higher standard of living than the USA.

Maybe you feel you have a high standard of living..what with your two
BMWs and excessive income ( as you boast about).
What about all the American families that have to get by on less than
$70K per year....or even $50K?
I'm sure they don't feel their standard of living is all that great.

I don't have two BMWs. I have a 1997 Dodge Grand Caravan, 2001 Ford F-150,
and a 2009 Jeep Patriot. 15% of my income goes into a 401k before it ever
hits my bank account, I don't have a retirement plan I have to fund my
own. I put another large chunk of my after tax money into 529's for my
daughters college educations. What's left over is what I have to live on.
You try living with a wife who gives all of your money to charity and
daughters who give what's left over of your money to various clothing
vendors at the local mall.

When I have talked about the money I earn I do so to let the Harry Krause
know that even though he has his alleged "Ivy League" education that
little old me with just a high school diploma can succeed in life with
hard work and determination.

Maybe I was getting you and DK mixed together.
Someone was bragging about having 2 BMW cars.

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You claim to follow economics so please tell us a country where
central planning and tight government control has brought the kind of
prosperity that the USA has seen to this point. All I am looking for
is the name of the country that is socialist or communist that has a
higher standard of living than the USA.
Maybe you feel you have a high standard of living..what with your two
BMWs and excessive income ( as you boast about).
What about all the American families that have to get by on less than
$70K per year....or even $50K?
I'm sure they don't feel their standard of living is all that great.
I don't have two BMWs. I have a 1997 Dodge Grand Caravan, 2001 Ford F-150,
and a 2009 Jeep Patriot. 15% of my income goes into a 401k before it ever
hits my bank account, I don't have a retirement plan I have to fund my
own. I put another large chunk of my after tax money into 529's for my
daughters college educations. What's left over is what I have to live on.
You try living with a wife who gives all of your money to charity and
daughters who give what's left over of your money to various clothing
vendors at the local mall.

When I have talked about the money I earn I do so to let the Harry Krause
know that even though he has his alleged "Ivy League" education that
little old me with just a high school diploma can succeed in life with
hard work and determination.

Maybe I was getting you and DK mixed together.
Someone was bragging about having 2 BMW cars.




Probably DK. He probably bought one, saw it in his driveway, and bought
another, so he could play "can you top this?" with himself.

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On Mar 23, 6:07 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
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On Mar 23, 12:21 am, "Calif Bill" wrote:





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On Mar 21, 9:52 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:

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bush was president for about 2800 days.

obama's been president for 60.

even you should be able to do the math.

republicans reagan, bush and bush have nearly bankrupted this
country.
clinton was the only president in recent history to balance the
budget.

bush starved the middle class to feed his friends at exxon. now
we're
paying the price

Clinton did not balance the budget!!! He looked like it, but even
worse
he
allowed spending to grow a lot more under his watch than it should
of.

gee whiz...how much is 'than it should have'? because bush ballooned
the budget out of control with his war in iraq, his tax cuts for the
super rich, etc.

He

was the fortunate recipient of tons of revenue from the Dot.com boom

that's called the 'economy'. it happens.

Nope, it was a financial disaster. Similar to what we have now, not as
big.
And caused by the same Fed screw ups on interest rates. Iraq cost less
in
7
years than Obama and this Congress have spent in the last 60 days.

iraq costs are estimated anywhere from 1-3 trillion dollars. and
you're saying that's irrelevant? i dont think so.

and they did not 'spend' this in the last 60 days. this will be spent
over the next year or so. that's called a 'budget'.

What are

your feelings one what that is going to do for the "Economy"?-

keynesian economics works. milton friedman's monetary policy worked to
a certain degree but the fed is out of options at this point since its
interest rate is now about zero.

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The Trillion is not the budget. That is separate pork.- Hide quoted
text -

to a keynesian, it's irrelevant.

****
to you it is ignorance.-

IOW you've never taken an economics course...

figures. that's why you believe the right wing lunacy

Actually I got A's in university econ classes. Tell me if government spend
in so good for us, why do you complain about the cost of the Iraq war? Why
not spend 5 trillion bucks a year in borrowed money? You may have taken an
Econ class, but you did not retain much knowledge.

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You claim to follow economics so please tell us a country where
central planning and tight government control has brought the kind of
prosperity that the USA has seen to this point. All I am looking for
is the name of the country that is socialist or communist that has a
higher standard of living than the USA.


Maybe you feel you have a high standard of living..what with your two
BMWs and excessive income ( as you boast about).
What about all the American families that have to get by on less than
$70K per year....or even $50K?
I'm sure they don't feel their standard of living is all that great.


Richard did not come from wealth from what I read. He worked hard,
took chances and scored. Took a lot of years. I worked and paid my
way through university. Took 10 years. I worked overtime, bought a
business that my buddy and I ran that for years while still keeping our
other jobs. I am comfortable, maybe not as comfortable as Eisboch, but
he worked hard. You, on the other hand, were a 40 hour a week if that
Crown Employee. Did not gamble a lot of your money and assets on
running a business or growing a business. Did not work 60-80 hours a
week working. My nephew, works a couple days a week, did not finish
college, and complains of no money. No work ethic. A major problem in
the poor in this country. Why work hard when society will give you the
equivalent of about $18k a year, including medical. And you can work
side jobs for cash. Why we have 4 and 5 generation welfare families.
An about 60% high school drop out rate in areas of the country. Lots
of families live on less than $50k a year. But they do not buy
expensive cars, or even new economy cars. They live in 1100 ' sq
houses, and not McMansions. They live within their means. Too many
want the life style of the rich and famous without the work required.
Some are there because of circumstances. A bad illness in the family,
etc. But those are a minority. Most are there because of a bad work
ethic. Even the lower IQ people hold a lot of decent paying jobs. They
can not be an electrical engineer, but they can clerk at a department
store, take money at the 7/11, etc. Why do we see so many immigrants
running grocery stores, donut shops, nail salons, and other hard, time
consuming business endevors. Because they have a work ethic. Plus they
do not overspend. Live within their means. You leased a truck 3 years
ago. Now bought a Rav4. How much a year has those vehicles cost you?
I just bought a new Vensa for the wife. Nice car by the way. $38k
sticker. Replacing a 1996 car with 145k miles. What is my cost of
vehicles per year?

Drinking again Kalif Swill??
I was replying to..and referring to *BAR* with my comments.


I would have assumed you were drinking, but I think you are just stupid.

Don't think...it's not your strong suit!


Maybe your son should drink all your beer. Then you will not kill off the
fuel brain cells you have functioning.

How much is your yearly vehicle cost? Did you invest well while working?

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Maybe your son should drink all your beer. Then you will not kill off the
*fuel brain cells* you have functioning.

How much is your yearly vehicle cost? Did you invest well while working?


What the 'ell are "fuel brain cells"?
My yearly vehicle cost??
Since my son pays for the 07 Dodge Charger my costs for the 06 Ranger PU
have been low..... maybe $5K for lease payments, insurance & expensive gas.
My investments were doing well until y'all down there screwed up the worlds
finances.

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"Don White" wrote in message
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"Calif Bill" wrote in message
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Maybe your son should drink all your beer. Then you will not kill off
the *fuel brain cells* you have functioning.

How much is your yearly vehicle cost? Did you invest well while working?


What the 'ell are "fuel brain cells"?
My yearly vehicle cost??
Since my son pays for the 07 Dodge Charger my costs for the 06 Ranger PU
have been low..... maybe $5K for lease payments, insurance & expensive
gas.
My investments were doing well until y'all down there screwed up the
worlds finances.


You have to tell us that your son pays for HIS Charger? He's an adult right?
I guess since you buy his beer, you should be proud that he pays for his
car.

Your lease, gas and ins, payments for 3 years is only $5k??? BS! LIAR! Just
like your best bud. You are learning well young Jedi.

--Mike

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"Don White" wrote in message
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"Calif Bill" wrote in message
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Maybe your son should drink all your beer. Then you will not kill off
the *fuel brain cells* you have functioning.

How much is your yearly vehicle cost? Did you invest well while working?


What the 'ell are "fuel brain cells"?
My yearly vehicle cost??
Since my son pays for the 07 Dodge Charger my costs for the 06 Ranger PU
have been low..... maybe $5K for lease payments, insurance & expensive
gas.
My investments were doing well until y'all down there screwed up the
worlds finances.

$5k? You have even fewer brain cells than I thought. Hell, at $250 a month
lease, and I bet is a lot bigger than that, you are sending $3000 a year to
the lease company. Probably at least $700 a year for insurance, and the
maintenance costs, plus fuel. You better recheck your figures.

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Calif Bill wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message
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"Calif Bill" wrote in message
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Maybe your son should drink all your beer. Then you will not kill off
the *fuel brain cells* you have functioning.

How much is your yearly vehicle cost? Did you invest well while working?

What the 'ell are "fuel brain cells"?
My yearly vehicle cost??
Since my son pays for the 07 Dodge Charger my costs for the 06 Ranger PU
have been low..... maybe $5K for lease payments, insurance & expensive
gas.
My investments were doing well until y'all down there screwed up the
worlds finances.

$5k? You have even fewer brain cells than I thought. Hell, at $250 a month
lease, and I bet is a lot bigger than that, you are sending $3000 a year to
the lease company. Probably at least $700 a year for insurance, and the
maintenance costs, plus fuel. You better recheck your figures.

I practice buy and hold on automobiles. I buy new and hold them for 10
or more years. The big ticket maintenance costs are lower because I know
the entire history of the vehicle and how well it has been cared for.

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"BAR" wrote in message
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Calif Bill wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message
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"Calif Bill" wrote in message
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Maybe your son should drink all your beer. Then you will not kill off
the *fuel brain cells* you have functioning.

How much is your yearly vehicle cost? Did you invest well while
working?

What the 'ell are "fuel brain cells"?
My yearly vehicle cost??
Since my son pays for the 07 Dodge Charger my costs for the 06 Ranger PU
have been low..... maybe $5K for lease payments, insurance & expensive
gas.
My investments were doing well until y'all down there screwed up the
worlds finances.

$5k? You have even fewer brain cells than I thought. Hell, at $250 a
month lease, and I bet is a lot bigger than that, you are sending $3000 a
year to the lease company. Probably at least $700 a year for insurance,
and the maintenance costs, plus fuel. You better recheck your figures.

I practice buy and hold on automobiles. I buy new and hold them for 10 or
more years. The big ticket maintenance costs are lower because I know the
entire history of the vehicle and how well it has been cared for.

I'm going back into that mode...hence the very reliable Toyota RAV4.
The leased Ranger was a one time thing.

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On Mar 23, 6:38*pm, "Don White" wrote:
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You claim to follow economics so please tell us a country where
central planning and tight government control has brought the kind of
prosperity that the USA has seen to this point. All I am looking for
is the name of the country that is socialist or communist that has a
higher standard of living than the USA.

Maybe you feel you have a high standard of living..what with your two
BMWs and excessive income ( as you boast about).
What about all the American families that have to get by on less than
$70K per year....or even $50K?
I'm sure they don't feel their standard of living is all that great.

Richard did not come from wealth from what I read. *He worked hard, took
chances and scored. *Took a lot of years. *I worked and paid my way
through university. *Took 10 years. *I worked overtime, bought a
business that my buddy and I ran that for years while still keeping our
other jobs. I am comfortable, maybe not as comfortable as Eisboch, but
he worked hard. You, on the other hand, were a 40 hour a week if that
Crown Employee. *Did not gamble a lot of your money and assets on
running a business or growing a business. *Did not work 60-80 hours a
week working. My nephew, works a couple days a week, did not finish
college, and complains of no money. *No work ethic. *A major problem in
the poor in this country. *Why work hard when society will give you the
equivalent of about $18k a year, including medical. *And you can work
side jobs for cash. *Why we have 4 and 5 generation welfare families.
An about 60% high school drop out rate in areas of the country. *Lots of
families live on less than $50k a year. But they do not buy expensive
cars, or even new economy cars. *They live in 1100 ' sq houses, and not
McMansions. *They live within their means. Too many want the life style
of the rich and famous without the work required. *Some are there
because of circumstances. *A bad illness in the family, etc. *But those
are a minority. *Most are there because of a bad work ethic. *Even the
lower IQ people hold a lot of decent paying jobs. They can not be an
electrical engineer, but they can clerk at a department store, take
money at the 7/11, etc. *Why do we see so many immigrants running
grocery stores, donut shops, nail salons, and other hard, time consuming
business endevors. Because they have a work ethic. *Plus they do not
overspend. Live within their means. *You leased a truck 3 years ago.. Now
bought a Rav4. *How much a year has those vehicles cost you? *I just
bought a new Vensa for the wife. Nice car by the way. $38k sticker.
Replacing a 1996 car with 145k miles. What is my cost of vehicles per
year?

Drinking again Kalif Swill??
I was replying to..and referring to *BAR* *with my comments.

I would have assumed you were drinking, but I think you are just stupid..

Don't think...it's not your strong suit!- Hide quoted text -

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At least he's credible. You're starting to lie as much as your lover/
master/clone Harry. Speaking of which, where are those "facts" you
claim you have about me?