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SteveB wrote:

I think I may have messed up. This is the book I ordered. Below it
is the 90-# that was suggested to me to buy. Did I get the wrong
book, or just not the best book?

The only place you can order the proper OEM service manual, to my
knowledge, is from a Mercury dealer.



Actually, you can also order them direct from Mercury online.

http://www.mercurypartsexpress.com/us/

I get ERROR - ACCESS DENIED. I bookmarked it, and will try again later.


Yeah, I'm getting that as well. It's been a while, but I've definitely
ordered Mercruiser owner's manuals as well as the real deal service shop
manuals for my stern drives and engines over the years. I remember the
last time there was some ambiguity regarding which manuals for my serial
numbers, so I called Mercruiser and we completed the transaction over the
phone. Everything showed up in a white box at my doorstep a few days
later.


I just tried the link for kicks. Worked fine. No "Access Denied".

Eisboch

I live in Utah, and they have funny laws and energy vortices regarding
working on Sundays. But they DID change the liquor laws the other day,
taking effect on July 1. It will clear up some of the archaic procedures
regarding bars around here, but not a lot. Just gets rid of the private
club thing. The state still owns the liquor stores, and they look down on
drinking, so charge high prices. They don't like drinking, but they don't
mind the high tax revenue. You can't hardly buy real beer. Just watered
down beer.

Steve

Checked my order, and it was a "Mercury Outboard Shop Manual 3.5-40hp
1972-1989 (Includes Electric Motors) I was suspicious of the shipping fee
of $3.99, as any book that covered that many motors would weigh about 16#.
So, it has to be just a short section on each motor. I cancelled my order.

Will get back to investigating this. It's just that I've seen OEM manuals
from $71 to $86! Maybe I can get a used one on ebay.

Advice? Clues?

Steve

"SteveB" wrote in message
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Checked my order, and it was a "Mercury Outboard Shop Manual 3.5-40hp
1972-1989 (Includes Electric Motors) I was suspicious of the shipping fee
of $3.99, as any book that covered that many motors would weigh about 16#.
So, it has to be just a short section on each motor. I cancelled my
order.

Will get back to investigating this. It's just that I've seen OEM manuals
from $71 to $86! Maybe I can get a used one on ebay.

Advice? Clues?


It's a boat, dude. Anytime you can accomplish anything for less than a
C-note, drop to your knees and thank whatever God you pray to.

SteveB wrote:

Will get back to investigating this. It's just that I've seen OEM manuals
from $71 to $86! Maybe I can get a used one on ebay.
Advice? Clues?

It's interesting that the benchmark of what is a 'fair' price is what
the aftermarket manuals sell for. Once you see the real OEM one, you'll
have paid double what they're asking given what you get in value in return.

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Regards,
Dave Brown
Brown's Marina Ltd
http://brownsmarina.com/

"Dave Brown" wrote in message
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SteveB wrote:

Will get back to investigating this. It's just that I've seen OEM
manuals from $71 to $86! Maybe I can get a used one on ebay.
Advice? Clues?

It's interesting that the benchmark of what is a 'fair' price is what the
aftermarket manuals sell for. Once you see the real OEM one, you'll have
paid double what they're asking given what you get in value in return.

--
Regards,
Dave Brown
Brown's Marina Ltd
http://brownsmarina.com/

My dad had Chilton's. A bunch of them. He was a master machinist, a hell
of a good mechanic, and he was a flight engineer in the USAC during WW2. I
used to just look through those like encyclopedias. I think that would be
the difference between a quality book and a el cheapo manual.

Steve

On Mar 16, 9:01*am, "SteveB" wrote:
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SteveB wrote:

Will get back to investigating this. *It's just that I've seen OEM
manuals from $71 to $86! *Maybe I can get a used one on ebay.
Advice? *Clues?

It's interesting that the benchmark of what is a 'fair' price is what the
aftermarket manuals sell for. Once you see the real OEM one, you'll have
paid double what they're asking given what you get in value in return.

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Regards,
* * *Dave Brown
* * *Brown's Marina Ltd
* * *http://brownsmarina.com/

My dad had Chilton's. *A bunch of them. *He was a master machinist, a hell
of a good mechanic, and he was a flight engineer in the USAC during WW2. *I
used to just look through those like encyclopedias. *I think that would be
the difference between a quality book and a el cheapo manual.

Steve

Same here, my uncle was an aviation machinist and mechanic in the Navy
during WW2. I have a lot of his old manuals for aircraft engines,
airframes, etc. I read them all of the time!

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SteveB wrote:

Will get back to investigating this. It's just that I've seen OEM
manuals from $71 to $86! Maybe I can get a used one on ebay.
Advice? Clues?

It's interesting that the benchmark of what is a 'fair' price is what the
aftermarket manuals sell for. Once you see the real OEM one, you'll have
paid double what they're asking given what you get in value in return.


Absolutely. There's the OEM manuals, and then there's everything else. A
comparison of the two isn't even possible.

On Mon, 16 Mar 2009 07:29:48 -0500, Dave Brown
wrote:

SteveB wrote:

Will get back to investigating this. It's just that I've seen OEM manuals
from $71 to $86! Maybe I can get a used one on ebay.
Advice? Clues?

It's interesting that the benchmark of what is a 'fair' price is what
the aftermarket manuals sell for. Once you see the real OEM one, you'll
have paid double what they're asking given what you get in value in return.

That's a true statement. My Yamaha manual cost in the neighborhood of
$85. I believe it was worth every penny.

Now, the price Yamaha gets for cotter pins is another story.
--
John H

"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those
who are willing to work and give to those who would not."
Thomas Jefferson

On Mon, 16 Mar 2009 21:03:11 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 16 Mar 2009 12:33:43 -0400, John H
wrote:

That's a true statement. My Yamaha manual cost in the neighborhood of
$85. I believe it was worth every penny.

Now, the price Yamaha gets for cotter pins is another story.
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For common hardware like that, think Ace Hardware. They have a lot of
stainless stuff.
One thing I found out is Yamaha/Mercury actually drills and taps the
holes deeper than the OEM screws so you have one more chance when one
strips out. Just go down to Ace and get the next longer bolt.
It saved me on my thermostat housing bolts.
The DEALER didn't use antisieze on one of my few visits. (one reason
that is a seldom thing)

Yes. Live and learn.
--
John H

"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those
who are willing to work and give to those who would not."
Thomas Jefferson

On Mon, 16 Mar 2009 21:03:11 -0500, wrote:

The DEALER didn't use antisieze on one of my few visits. (one reason
that is a seldom thing)

Make the ****er helicoil the holes. A Hasselblad comes with a helicoil
already in the tripod socket. It is much stronger than the plain hole.
Many racing engines have the helicoils in every hole.

Casady