On Sun, 01 Mar 2009 10:12:13 -0500, Keith Nuttle
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CalifBill wrote:
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On Sat, 28 Feb 2009 20:40:55 -0600, thunder
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On Sat, 28 Feb 2009 16:32:25 -0500, gfretwell wrote:


Your tide is a daily thing. The drop in western lakes is probably going
to just be forever. When they built the dams the rivers were flowing
wild and the valleys filled to 300-400 feet behind the dam. Now the west
is using water a lot faster than the river can put it back so the lakes
are drying up.
Add to that, a drought. Just this past week, Schwarzenegger declared a
drought emergency.
As the old margarine commercial used to say,
"it's not nice to fool mother nature".
You guys tricked the desert into thinking it was prime river bottom
land and now nature is striking back.

We have enough water. But agriculture is big political lobby powers and get
subsidized water that grows subsidized crops. About $9.50 an acre foot for
water. Homes pay about $250 and acre foot. And the farmers are reselling
the $9.50 water for $200 to Los Angeles water. And Ag uses 80% of the water
in the state, to supply about 2.4% of GDP and employment.


In the US, I believe farms produce 100% of all of the food we eat. What
is your is you over feed lawn producing except run off that is polluting
th environment?

Don't think it's 100% any more.
Agree about the lawns.
Here around the Great Lakes water is cheap, but I never water the lawn
anyway. Just the flowers.

--Vic

On Sun, 01 Mar 2009 10:39:45 -0600, Vic Smith
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Here around the Great Lakes water is cheap

Heh, just wait until California builds that pipeline... !

On Sun, 01 Mar 2009 17:58:15 -0500, Wayne.B
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On Sun, 01 Mar 2009 10:39:45 -0600, Vic Smith
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Here around the Great Lakes water is cheap

Heh, just wait until California builds that pipeline... !

They'll have to get approval from the Canucks.
They watch that water level like a hawk.
I don't think they care to water California lawns.
Water is, after all, the source of precious bodily fluids.

--Vic

On Sun, 01 Mar 2009 17:22:34 -0600, Vic Smith
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Water is, after all, the source of precious bodily fluids.

....and beer.

On Sun, 01 Mar 2009 18:31:53 -0500, Wayne.B
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On Sun, 01 Mar 2009 17:22:34 -0600, Vic Smith
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Water is, after all, the source of precious bodily fluids.

...and beer.

That's just redundant!

"Vic Smith" wrote in message
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On Sun, 01 Mar 2009 18:31:53 -0500, Wayne.B
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On Sun, 01 Mar 2009 17:22:34 -0600, Vic Smith
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Water is, after all, the source of precious bodily fluids.

...and beer.

That's just redundant!



Speaking of beer,

We opened the bottle of Samuel Adams Utopias Friday night. Unusual to say
the least, but very, very good.
Hard to describe it. It has a very faint taste of beer, but it's probably
only because of the hops.
It's almost as good to just to hold the glass under your nose and sniff it
as it is to drink it. The aroma is fantastic. Only had about an oz. or
so, but that was all you needed to enjoy it. Not sweet, not bitter and
smooth as silk. I've had some good brandy and cognac in the past, but this
was different.

Looking forward to the next time.

Eisboch

On Sun, 1 Mar 2009 20:12:49 -0500, "Eisboch"
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Speaking of beer,

We opened the bottle of Samuel Adams Utopias Friday night. Unusual to say
the least, but very, very good.
Hard to describe it. It has a very faint taste of beer, but it's probably
only because of the hops.
It's almost as good to just to hold the glass under your nose and sniff it
as it is to drink it. The aroma is fantastic. Only had about an oz. or
so, but that was all you needed to enjoy it. Not sweet, not bitter and
smooth as silk. I've had some good brandy and cognac in the past, but this
was different.

Looking forward to the next time.

As you should. I'm trying to figure it out.
How long does it last after being opened?
Does it make a head?
Where can I get some?
A case!

--Vic

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On Sun, 01 Mar 2009 17:58:15 -0500, Wayne.B
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On Sun, 01 Mar 2009 10:39:45 -0600, Vic Smith
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Here around the Great Lakes water is cheap

Heh, just wait until California builds that pipeline... !

They'll have to get approval from the Canucks.
They watch that water level like a hawk.
I don't think they care to water California lawns.
Water is, after all, the source of precious bodily fluids.

--Vic

Not just Canada... the US states that border the Great Lakes are also very
interested in preventing any massive diversions to the US west.

On Sun, 1 Mar 2009 19:33:44 -0400, "Don White"
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"Vic Smith" wrote in message
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On Sun, 01 Mar 2009 17:58:15 -0500, Wayne.B
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On Sun, 01 Mar 2009 10:39:45 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

Here around the Great Lakes water is cheap

Heh, just wait until California builds that pipeline... !

They'll have to get approval from the Canucks.
They watch that water level like a hawk.
I don't think they care to water California lawns.
Water is, after all, the source of precious bodily fluids.

--Vic

Not just Canada... the US states that border the Great Lakes are also very
interested in preventing any massive diversions to the US west.

Heck, I won't complain about cheap water.
But I've seen the issue raised about the local water flow here in
Illinois. Diversion into the SAG canal and then the Illinois river
it tightly controlled by U.S./Canadian agreements.
Wait until the price of water out west gets as high as oil, I say.
Then sell it. I'd really like to sell them the snow before it hits
the ground.

--Vic

Vic Smith wrote:
On Sun, 1 Mar 2009 19:33:44 -0400, "Don White"
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"Vic Smith" wrote in message
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On Sun, 01 Mar 2009 17:58:15 -0500, Wayne.B
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On Sun, 01 Mar 2009 10:39:45 -0600, Vic Smith
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Here around the Great Lakes water is cheap
Heh, just wait until California builds that pipeline... !
They'll have to get approval from the Canucks.
They watch that water level like a hawk.
I don't think they care to water California lawns.
Water is, after all, the source of precious bodily fluids.

--Vic
Not just Canada... the US states that border the Great Lakes are also very
interested in preventing any massive diversions to the US west.

Heck, I won't complain about cheap water.
But I've seen the issue raised about the local water flow here in
Illinois. Diversion into the SAG canal and then the Illinois river
it tightly controlled by U.S./Canadian agreements.
Wait until the price of water out west gets as high as oil, I say.
Then sell it. I'd really like to sell them the snow before it hits
the ground.

--Vic


We have a water well here, couple of hundred feet + into the aquifer.
Pretty good water, too...we have it tested at least once a year. I
believe the current charge around here for well digging is $10 or $11
plus change a foot, so a 250-foot well would run around $2800 to the
wellhead. That includes the pump at the bottom of the well.