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On Feb 13, 2:30*pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 11:02:00 -0800 (PST), wrote:


On Feb 13, 1:24 pm, wrote:
On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 18:17:35 GMT, (Richard


Casady) wrote:
On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 07:29:13 -0800 (PST), wrote:
On Feb 13, 9:43 am, HK wrote:
Richard Casady wrote:
On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 20:46:13 -0500, D K
wrote:
The one thing I know for sure is the F90 is best
suited for a three-blade prop rather than a four.
Three is always more efficient than four. Four blades is a way to get
the blade area in a smaller diameter, if you lack space.
Casady
My admittedly limited experience with Yamaha taught me that the company
is pretty damned good matching up engines, props and boats, and that a
good dealer is also a valuable resource in prop selection. When I took
delivery of my 2008 model boat, the boat factory had just changed the
prop it spec'd for the boat and engine combo, upon a suggestion from
Yamaha. The factory sent me copies of performance print-outs for several
props. I was able to almost exactly duplicate the performance on the
factory print-out.
Almost every outboard boat I considered has performance sheets available
* from the engine manufacturer, and those sheets specify props.
Really? How did they know your exact requirements as far as weight,
loading fore and aft, etc.?
They give you one in the middle of the range of props that are
individually ideal for one of the varying conditions. My sprint car
has a quick change rear axle. You can change the gear ratio in a
couple of minutes. There are three brands around, and they all have a
magnesium case. Stuff is brittle, but there are no impact loads. They
have variable pitch props for ships and planes.
Variable pitch props and adjustable pitch props are two different
things.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -
Um, and adjustable pitch prop IS variable.


Um, you are confused. "Variable Pitch Prop" is a technical term, not
common usage. It does not mean adjustable.


Just to step around the pile of Loogy**** left here, while my boat was
still being manufactured, I contacted the manufacturer and was put in
touch with the tech guys, who emailed a few prop-performance data sheets
to me, sheets from Yamaha and from tests they had run. Then, I had a
couple of phone discussions with Parker. In the end, I picked the prop
that most closely matched *my* parameters.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Oh, so you knew before you ever took possession of the boat just how
much it was going to weigh and the balance of the boat, huh?
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On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 14:37:30 -0500, HK wrote:

wrote:
On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 14:30:01 -0500, HK wrote:

wrote:
On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 11:02:00 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

On Feb 13, 1:24 pm, wrote:
On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 18:17:35 GMT, (Richard





Casady) wrote:
On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 07:29:13 -0800 (PST), wrote:
On Feb 13, 9:43 am, HK wrote:
Richard Casady wrote:
On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 20:46:13 -0500, D K
wrote:
The one thing I know for sure is the F90 is best
suited for a three-blade prop rather than a four.
Three is always more efficient than four. Four blades is a way to get
the blade area in a smaller diameter, if you lack space.
Casady
My admittedly limited experience with Yamaha taught me that the company
is pretty damned good matching up engines, props and boats, and that a
good dealer is also a valuable resource in prop selection. When I took
delivery of my 2008 model boat, the boat factory had just changed the
prop it spec'd for the boat and engine combo, upon a suggestion from
Yamaha. The factory sent me copies of performance print-outs for several
props. I was able to almost exactly duplicate the performance on the
factory print-out.
Almost every outboard boat I considered has performance sheets available
from the engine manufacturer, and those sheets specify props.
Really? How did they know your exact requirements as far as weight,
loading fore and aft, etc.?
They give you one in the middle of the range of props that are
individually ideal for one of the varying conditions. My sprint car
has a quick change rear axle. You can change the gear ratio in a
couple of minutes. There are three brands around, and they all have a
magnesium case. Stuff is brittle, but there are no impact loads. They
have variable pitch props for ships and planes.
Variable pitch props and adjustable pitch props are two different
things.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
Um, and adjustable pitch prop IS variable.
Um, you are confused. "Variable Pitch Prop" is a technical term, not
common usage. It does not mean adjustable.

Just to step around the pile of Loogy**** left here, while my boat was
still being manufactured, I contacted the manufacturer and was put in
touch with the tech guys, who emailed a few prop-performance data sheets
to me, sheets from Yamaha and from tests they had run. Then, I had a
couple of phone discussions with Parker. In the end, I picked the prop
that most closely matched *my* parameters.
You shouda picked the prop that fit your BOAT'S parameters.


All the "possible" props fit the boat. They weren't *that* different.
One was a bit better match than the rest, producing a higher cruise
speed at my preferred RPMs.


You should have picked the prop that produced a higher cruise speed at
your boat's preferred RPMs.



My boat doesn't have a preferred RPM. The engine has a preferred RPM
range, and I picked the prop that produced the highest cruise at the
upper end of that range.

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snerk Is there a specific prop for a boat that stays on the hard all
season?



I dunno. You should ask the guy who built that gerry-built and sloppily
painted rowboat you never use.
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On Feb 13, 2:53*pm, HK wrote:
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snerk Is there a specific prop for a boat that stays on the hard all
season?


I dunno. You should ask the guy who built that gerry-built and sloppily
painted rowboat you never use.


snerk I don't have a Parker.. I saw one at the show however, the
sides looked like the washboard my mom did laundry with when I was a
kid and there was a hole in the ass end you could drive a Volkswagen
through.. Oh yeah, they put a little plastic board across the back at
the same height as the transom..
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On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 14:52:17 -0500, HK wrote:

wrote:
On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 14:37:30 -0500, HK wrote:

wrote:
On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 14:30:01 -0500, HK wrote:

wrote:
On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 11:02:00 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

On Feb 13, 1:24 pm, wrote:
On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 18:17:35 GMT, (Richard





Casady) wrote:
On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 07:29:13 -0800 (PST), wrote:
On Feb 13, 9:43 am, HK wrote:
Richard Casady wrote:
On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 20:46:13 -0500, D K
wrote:
The one thing I know for sure is the F90 is best
suited for a three-blade prop rather than a four.
Three is always more efficient than four. Four blades is a way to get
the blade area in a smaller diameter, if you lack space.
Casady
My admittedly limited experience with Yamaha taught me that the company
is pretty damned good matching up engines, props and boats, and that a
good dealer is also a valuable resource in prop selection. When I took
delivery of my 2008 model boat, the boat factory had just changed the
prop it spec'd for the boat and engine combo, upon a suggestion from
Yamaha. The factory sent me copies of performance print-outs for several
props. I was able to almost exactly duplicate the performance on the
factory print-out.
Almost every outboard boat I considered has performance sheets available
from the engine manufacturer, and those sheets specify props.
Really? How did they know your exact requirements as far as weight,
loading fore and aft, etc.?
They give you one in the middle of the range of props that are
individually ideal for one of the varying conditions. My sprint car
has a quick change rear axle. You can change the gear ratio in a
couple of minutes. There are three brands around, and they all have a
magnesium case. Stuff is brittle, but there are no impact loads. They
have variable pitch props for ships and planes.
Variable pitch props and adjustable pitch props are two different
things.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
Um, and adjustable pitch prop IS variable.
Um, you are confused. "Variable Pitch Prop" is a technical term, not
common usage. It does not mean adjustable.

Just to step around the pile of Loogy**** left here, while my boat was
still being manufactured, I contacted the manufacturer and was put in
touch with the tech guys, who emailed a few prop-performance data sheets
to me, sheets from Yamaha and from tests they had run. Then, I had a
couple of phone discussions with Parker. In the end, I picked the prop
that most closely matched *my* parameters.
You shouda picked the prop that fit your BOAT'S parameters.


All the "possible" props fit the boat. They weren't *that* different.
One was a bit better match than the rest, producing a higher cruise
speed at my preferred RPMs.
You should have picked the prop that produced a higher cruise speed at
your boat's preferred RPMs.


My boat doesn't have a preferred RPM. The engine has a preferred RPM
range, and I picked the prop that produced the highest cruise at the
upper end of that range.


There you go, changing your story yet again.



Say what?


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On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 15:00:44 -0500, HK wrote:

wrote:
On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 14:52:17 -0500, HK wrote:



There you go, changing your story yet again.


Say what?


I only see one outcome here.
Both of you should just admit to being pedos right now.

--Vic
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On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 14:44:44 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 15:00:44 -0500, HK wrote:

wrote:
On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 14:52:17 -0500, HK wrote:



There you go, changing your story yet again.


Say what?


I only see one outcome here.
Both of you should just admit to being pedos right now.

--Vic


LOL! Amen.
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