Peanut Company Owner Takes the Fifth...
 

On Feb 11, 7:48*pm, Tim wrote:
On Feb 11, 3:16*pm, HK wrote:





Tim wrote:
On Feb 11, 2:17 pm, HK wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Feb 11, 1:45 pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
If it is as it certainly appears, I agree with you 100%.
Agreed with your comment of "If it is as it certainly appears"
Then, there's the flip side to come out in the courts.
It'll be interesting to hear the reasons why the execs released the
tainted product into the supply chain. *I mean the reasons other than
the ones already stated.

Very true!

i wonder who in the labs got paid off to enable it to be released? Or
were the labs bypassed without clearance?

I suppose w'll *have to wait and find out...

Regardless, from the presently known reports, it sounds like some real
skullduggery goin on, though.

Well, I oppose capital punishment, but I might make an exception for
senior corporate execs who knowingly release tainted food... :) That's
what happens in China.

Yes Harry, he has direct contact with prisoners.

But you're mind is made up to a one sided view. and there will be none
changing that.

So much for "open mindedness"- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Just figuring this out? Harry is only out to protect the selfish
hypocritical lifestyle of the elite liberal set...

Peanut Company Owner Takes the Fifth...
 

Tim wrote:
On Feb 11, 3:16 pm, HK wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Feb 11, 2:17 pm, HK wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Feb 11, 1:45 pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
If it is as it certainly appears, I agree with you 100%.
Agreed with your comment of "If it is as it certainly appears"
Then, there's the flip side to come out in the courts.
It'll be interesting to hear the reasons why the execs released the
tainted product into the supply chain. I mean the reasons other than
the ones already stated.
Very true!
i wonder who in the labs got paid off to enable it to be released? Or
were the labs bypassed without clearance?
I suppose w'll have to wait and find out...
Regardless, from the presently known reports, it sounds like some real
skullduggery goin on, though.
Well, I oppose capital punishment, but I might make an exception for
senior corporate execs who knowingly release tainted food... :) That's
what happens in China.

Yes Harry, he has direct contact with prisoners.

But you're mind is made up to a one sided view. and there will be none
changing that.

So much for "open mindedness"

Historically, it isn't reliable to take the word of jailkeepers as to
how they treat their prisoners. It takes third parties, commissions,
investigatory bodies, et cetera.

Peanut Company Owner Takes the Fifth...
 

Peanut Company Owner Takes the Fifth...
 

On Feb 11, 8:19*pm, HK wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Feb 11, 3:16 pm, HK wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Feb 11, 2:17 pm, HK wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Feb 11, 1:45 pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
If it is as it certainly appears, I agree with you 100%.
Agreed with your comment of "If it is as it certainly appears"
Then, there's the flip side to come out in the courts.
It'll be interesting to hear the reasons why the execs released the
tainted product into the supply chain. *I mean the reasons other than
the ones already stated.
Very true!
i wonder who in the labs got paid off to enable it to be released? Or
were the labs bypassed without clearance?
I suppose w'll *have to wait and find out...
Regardless, from the presently known reports, it sounds like some real
skullduggery goin on, though.
Well, I oppose capital punishment, but I might make an exception for
senior corporate execs who knowingly release tainted food... :) That's
what happens in China.

Yes Harry, he has direct contact with prisoners.

But you're mind is made up to a one sided view. and there will be none
changing that.

So much for "open mindedness"

Historically, it isn't reliable to take the word of jailkeepers as to
how they treat their prisoners. It takes third parties, commissions,
investigatory bodies, et cetera.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

You of course mean folks like you who make it up as they go along.

Peanut Company Owner Takes the Fifth...
 

On Feb 11, 7:19*pm, HK wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Feb 11, 3:16 pm, HK wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Feb 11, 2:17 pm, HK wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Feb 11, 1:45 pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
If it is as it certainly appears, I agree with you 100%.
Agreed with your comment of "If it is as it certainly appears"
Then, there's the flip side to come out in the courts.
It'll be interesting to hear the reasons why the execs released the
tainted product into the supply chain. *I mean the reasons other than
the ones already stated.
Very true!
i wonder who in the labs got paid off to enable it to be released? Or
were the labs bypassed without clearance?
I suppose w'll *have to wait and find out...
Regardless, from the presently known reports, it sounds like some real
skullduggery goin on, though.
Well, I oppose capital punishment, but I might make an exception for
senior corporate execs who knowingly release tainted food... :) That's
what happens in China.

Yes Harry, he has direct contact with prisoners.

But you're mind is made up to a one sided view. and there will be none
changing that.

So much for "open mindedness"

Historically, it isn't reliable to take the word of jailkeepers as to
how they treat their prisoners. It takes third parties, commissions,
investigatory bodies, et cetera.

I really don't think its reliable to take the re-thrashed word of
people who protect thugs with a biased agenda etc.

Let's face it Harry. you would not rather hear a view from one who is
there. it's much easier to believe in whom you feel comfortable with,
especially if your ideologies match.

"It takes third parties, commissions, investigatory bodies, et
cetera."

Dick Durbin (The Turban) only heard one point of view which was on his
level without true investigation, investigatory bodies, et cetera, and
if he had made his blundering speech and apology closer to election
time, he would have lost his senate seat.

Non informed : "If I read this to you and did not tell you that it was
an FBI agent describing what Americans had done to prisoners in their
control, you would most certainly believe this must have been done by
Nazis, Soviets in their gulags, or some mad regime--Pol Pot or others--
that had no concern for human beings. Sadly, that is not the case.
This was the action of Americans in the treatment of their prisoners."

Informed: (saving face apology) ""More than most people, a senator
lives by his words ... occasionally words fail us, occasionally we
will fail words,I am sorry if anything I said caused any offense or
pain to those who have such bitter memories of the Holocaust, the
greatest moral tragedy of our time. Nothing, nothing should ever be
said to demean or diminish that moral tragedy. I am also sorry if
anything I said cast a negative light on our fine men and women in the
military. ... I never ever intended any disrespect for them. Some may
believe that my remarks crossed the line. To them I extend my
heartfelt apology...They're the best,"

Durbin "attempted" to clarify his remarks last Thursday evening and
then again Friday, saying that he regretted if people did not
understand his historic analogies, ..."and he suggested that he could
not verify the accuracy of the FBI document...." (OOPS! Open mouth-
insert foot!)

BTW, Durbin later said he couldn't confirm the validity of the FBI
agents statement.

Peanut Company Owner Takes the Fifth...
 

On Feb 11, 11:41*pm, Tim wrote:
On Feb 11, 7:19*pm, HK wrote:





Tim wrote:
On Feb 11, 3:16 pm, HK wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Feb 11, 2:17 pm, HK wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Feb 11, 1:45 pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
If it is as it certainly appears, I agree with you 100%.
Agreed with your comment of "If it is as it certainly appears"
Then, there's the flip side to come out in the courts.
It'll be interesting to hear the reasons why the execs released the
tainted product into the supply chain. *I mean the reasons other than
the ones already stated.
Very true!
i wonder who in the labs got paid off to enable it to be released? Or
were the labs bypassed without clearance?
I suppose w'll *have to wait and find out...
Regardless, from the presently known reports, it sounds like some real
skullduggery goin on, though.
Well, I oppose capital punishment, but I might make an exception for
senior corporate execs who knowingly release tainted food... :) That's
what happens in China.

Yes Harry, he has direct contact with prisoners.

But you're mind is made up to a one sided view. and there will be none
changing that.

So much for "open mindedness"

Historically, it isn't reliable to take the word of jailkeepers as to
how they treat their prisoners. It takes third parties, commissions,
investigatory bodies, et cetera.

I really don't think its reliable to take the re-thrashed word of
people who protect thugs with a biased agenda etc.

Let's face it Harry. you would not rather hear a view from one who is
there. *it's much easier to believe in whom you feel comfortable with,
especially if your ideologies match.

*"It takes third parties, commissions, investigatory bodies, et
cetera."

Dick Durbin (The Turban) only heard one point of view which was on his
level without true investigation, investigatory bodies, et cetera, and
if he had made his blundering speech and apology closer to election
time, he would have lost his senate seat.

Non informed : "If I read this to you and did not tell you that it was
an FBI agent describing what Americans had done to prisoners in their
control, you would most certainly believe this must have been done by
Nazis, Soviets in their gulags, or some mad regime--Pol Pot or others--
that had no concern for human beings. Sadly, that is not the case.
This was the action of Americans in the treatment of their prisoners."

Informed: (saving face apology) ""More than most people, a senator
lives by his words ... occasionally words fail us, occasionally we
will fail words,I am sorry if anything I said caused any offense or
pain to those who have such bitter memories of the Holocaust, the
greatest moral tragedy of our time. Nothing, nothing should ever be
said to demean or diminish that moral tragedy. I am also sorry if
anything I said cast a negative light on our fine men and women in the
military. ... I never ever intended any disrespect for them. Some may
believe that my remarks crossed the line. To them I extend my
heartfelt apology...They're the best,"

Durbin "attempted" *to clarify his remarks last Thursday evening and
then again Friday, saying that he regretted if people did not
understand his historic analogies, ..."and he suggested that he could
not verify the accuracy of the FBI document...." *(OOPS! Open mouth-
insert foot!)

BTW, Durbin later said he couldn't confirm the validity of the FBI
agents statement.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Nice write up, too bad it will fall on deaf ears. Harry doesn't care
to hear anything that does not suit his agenda...

Peanut Company Owner Takes the Fifth...
 

On Feb 11, 10:46*pm, wrote:
On Feb 11, 11:41*pm, Tim wrote:



On Feb 11, 7:19*pm, HK wrote:

Tim wrote:
On Feb 11, 3:16 pm, HK wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Feb 11, 2:17 pm, HK wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Feb 11, 1:45 pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
If it is as it certainly appears, I agree with you 100%.
Agreed with your comment of "If it is as it certainly appears"
Then, there's the flip side to come out in the courts.
It'll be interesting to hear the reasons why the execs released the
tainted product into the supply chain. *I mean the reasons other than
the ones already stated.
Very true!
i wonder who in the labs got paid off to enable it to be released? Or
were the labs bypassed without clearance?
I suppose w'll *have to wait and find out...
Regardless, from the presently known reports, it sounds like some real
skullduggery goin on, though.
Well, I oppose capital punishment, but I might make an exception for
senior corporate execs who knowingly release tainted food... :) That's
what happens in China.

Yes Harry, he has direct contact with prisoners.

But you're mind is made up to a one sided view. and there will be none
changing that.

So much for "open mindedness"

Historically, it isn't reliable to take the word of jailkeepers as to
how they treat their prisoners. It takes third parties, commissions,
investigatory bodies, et cetera.

I really don't think its reliable to take the re-thrashed word of
people who protect thugs with a biased agenda etc.

Let's face it Harry. you would not rather hear a view from one who is
there. *it's much easier to believe in whom you feel comfortable with,
especially if your ideologies match.

*"It takes third parties, commissions, investigatory bodies, et
cetera."

Dick Durbin (The Turban) only heard one point of view which was on his
level without true investigation, investigatory bodies, et cetera, and
if he had made his blundering speech and apology closer to election
time, he would have lost his senate seat.

Non informed : "If I read this to you and did not tell you that it was
an FBI agent describing what Americans had done to prisoners in their
control, you would most certainly believe this must have been done by
Nazis, Soviets in their gulags, or some mad regime--Pol Pot or others--
that had no concern for human beings. Sadly, that is not the case.
This was the action of Americans in the treatment of their prisoners."

Informed: (saving face apology) ""More than most people, a senator
lives by his words ... occasionally words fail us, occasionally we
will fail words,I am sorry if anything I said caused any offense or
pain to those who have such bitter memories of the Holocaust, the
greatest moral tragedy of our time. Nothing, nothing should ever be
said to demean or diminish that moral tragedy. I am also sorry if
anything I said cast a negative light on our fine men and women in the
military. ... I never ever intended any disrespect for them. Some may
believe that my remarks crossed the line. To them I extend my
heartfelt apology...They're the best,"

Durbin "attempted" *to clarify his remarks last Thursday evening and
then again Friday, saying that he regretted if people did not
understand his historic analogies, ..."and he suggested that he could
not verify the accuracy of the FBI document...." *(OOPS! Open mouth-
insert foot!)

BTW, Durbin later said he couldn't confirm the validity of the FBI
agents statement.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Nice write up, too bad it will fall on deaf ears. Harry doesn't care
to hear anything that does not suit his agenda...

Well most of those cnp's were from various news sources which not only
cane from fox news but also included in the quotes were from the NYT
and UPI. They all said the same thing.
But I did make sure it was correct about the non varification of the
supposed FBI agent, that's why I did include the BTW.,

But one thing about Durbin's statement was his imediate and deceptive
disclaimer.

"If I read this to you and didn't tell you it was an FBI agent
describing what Americans had done to prisoners in their control, you
would most certainly believe this must have been done by.."

Obviously a deceitful comment.

Peanut Company Owner Takes the Fifth...
 

"HK" wrote in message
...

No offense, Tim, but are there any Bush Administration abominations which
you righties won't deny or try to rationalize away?



You must be aware, Harry, that the concept and purpose of having a jail or
detention center off of US soil wasn't Bush's invention or creation. It's
been a legal means, upheld by the Supreme Court, to hold people who fall
into a unique and hazy category where they are not really military, but they
aren't really civilian either. They aren't prisoners of war, but they
aren't entitled to a trial in a civilian US court system either. It's been
around for a long time.

Perfect place for captured foreign terrorists.

Eisboch

Peanut Company Owner Takes the Fifth...
 

"Tim" wrote in message
...

On Feb 11, 3:16 pm, HK wrote:

Yes Harry, he has direct contact with prisoners.

But you're mind is made up to a one sided view. and there will be none
changing that.

So much for "open mindedness"
---------------------------------------------

I have given up discussing this stuff with Harry. I don't dislike him and
I wish him well and hope he finds peace with himself somehow. However, it
has finally occurred to me that he is as close-minded and stuck in a way of
thinking as he accuses many others with different opinions to be,
particularly those he considers to be on the "right". It matters not what
evidence or arguments you make. If you conflict with his way of thinking,
your wrong, dumb, under-educated, led or whatever.

There's a whole sector of our population who have these elitist traits and
nothing you say has any affect or cause for them to think outside of their
little community of thought. Fortunately, they are in the minority. They
just tend to have the biggest mouths, a trait common to Monday morning
quarterbacks.

Sorta ironic.

Eisboch

Peanut Company Owner Takes the Fifth...
 

On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 02:41:37 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:


"HK" wrote in message
...

No offense, Tim, but are there any Bush Administration abominations which
you righties won't deny or try to rationalize away?



You must be aware, Harry, that the concept and purpose of having a jail or
detention center off of US soil wasn't Bush's invention or creation. It's
been a legal means, upheld by the Supreme Court, to hold people who fall
into a unique and hazy category where they are not really military, but they
aren't really civilian either. They aren't prisoners of war, but they
aren't entitled to a trial in a civilian US court system either. It's been
around for a long time.

Perfect place for captured foreign terrorists.

Hope and change.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationwo...4.story?page=1

He's just going to pay other countries to keep them for us and thus
claim that he's "closed" GITMO.

He's slick, but much like Carter and Clinton, he thinks he smarter
than everybody else.

Sorry President Obama - a lot of us aren't as stupid as you think we
are.

--

"Never fight an inanimate object."

P.J. O'Rourke