On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 18:06:34 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 18:58:25 -0500, HK wrote:

Vic Smith wrote:
On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 16:58:55 -0600, Jim Willemin
wrote:

What is the difference between a floor and a deck? Is the floor in the
cockpit or cabin and the deck 'outside'? I understand the 'floors' in
boatbuilding are transverse members in the frames, but does anyone know the
'proper' usages of floor and deck? Does a deckhouse have a floor or a
deck?

Might depend if you were in the Navy.
I never heard the word "floor" used there, even if ashore.
If you were ashore in a 2-story building, you might say 1st floor or
2nd floor. Don't know, as I was hardly ever ashore, but it would seem
pretty stupid to call the 1st floor the main deck.
But even in a building, the "floor" was the deck.
Shipboard, it was all decks.
Deckplates, main deck quarterdeck, mess decks, etc.
And "boat" was never used for Navy vessels, except whaleboats.
Civvy terminology might be different though

Hmmm. I remember from our Sea Scouts visit to the sub base in New London
that subs were called boats. The only other thing I remember from that
visit is that the mess hall served really good pancakes.

The sub or sonar guys might call them boats. I always heard them
called subs. My ship was ASW, not ABS, so that could be a clue.
I don't recall a single decent meal in my Navy time, unless I was in a
restaurant. My ships's cooks just plain sucked bilge water.

Odd - I've eaten Army, Air Force chow halls and the food was crap.

Navy food, by comparison, was excellent.

Espiecally in San Diego.

--

Math illiteracy affects 8 out of every 5 people.

On Mon, 09 Feb 2009 00:58:05 GMT, Zombie of Woodstock
wrote:

On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 18:06:34 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 18:58:25 -0500, HK wrote:

Vic Smith wrote:
On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 16:58:55 -0600, Jim Willemin
wrote:

What is the difference between a floor and a deck? Is the floor in the
cockpit or cabin and the deck 'outside'? I understand the 'floors' in
boatbuilding are transverse members in the frames, but does anyone know the
'proper' usages of floor and deck? Does a deckhouse have a floor or a
deck?

Might depend if you were in the Navy.
I never heard the word "floor" used there, even if ashore.
If you were ashore in a 2-story building, you might say 1st floor or
2nd floor. Don't know, as I was hardly ever ashore, but it would seem
pretty stupid to call the 1st floor the main deck.
But even in a building, the "floor" was the deck.
Shipboard, it was all decks.
Deckplates, main deck quarterdeck, mess decks, etc.
And "boat" was never used for Navy vessels, except whaleboats.
Civvy terminology might be different though

Hmmm. I remember from our Sea Scouts visit to the sub base in New London
that subs were called boats. The only other thing I remember from that
visit is that the mess hall served really good pancakes.

The sub or sonar guys might call them boats. I always heard them
called subs. My ship was ASW, not ABS, so that could be a clue.
I don't recall a single decent meal in my Navy time, unless I was in a
restaurant. My ships's cooks just plain sucked bilge water.

Odd - I've eaten Army, Air Force chow halls and the food was crap.

Navy food, by comparison, was excellent.

Espiecally in San Diego.

I've eaten all three also. My vote goes to the Air Force, but the Navy
folks in Norfolk put on the best Friday night seafood buffey in the
entire world. Amen.

On Mon, 09 Feb 2009 00:58:05 GMT, Zombie of Woodstock
wrote:



Odd - I've eaten Army, Air Force chow halls and the food was crap.

Navy food, by comparison, was excellent.

Espiecally in San Diego.

There's Navy food, and there's USS John King food.
But I'm a picky eater too.
The toast wasn't too bad. If it wasn't an hour old.

--Vic

Vic Smith wrote:
On Mon, 09 Feb 2009 00:58:05 GMT, Zombie of Woodstock
wrote:


Odd - I've eaten Army, Air Force chow halls and the food was crap.

Navy food, by comparison, was excellent.

Espiecally in San Diego.

There's Navy food, and there's USS John King food.
But I'm a picky eater too.
The toast wasn't too bad. If it wasn't an hour old.

--Vic


Well, then, someone just didn't care. There's no reason for
institutional food to taste bad, even cheap institutional food, if the
people preparing it care. Not on a big ship.

On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 20:33:42 -0500, HK wrote:

Vic Smith wrote:
On Mon, 09 Feb 2009 00:58:05 GMT, Zombie of Woodstock
wrote:


Odd - I've eaten Army, Air Force chow halls and the food was crap.

Navy food, by comparison, was excellent.

Espiecally in San Diego.

There's Navy food, and there's USS John King food.
But I'm a picky eater too.
The toast wasn't too bad. If it wasn't an hour old.

--Vic


Well, then, someone just didn't care. There's no reason for
institutional food to taste bad, even cheap institutional food, if the
people preparing it care. Not on a big ship.


Wasn't a big ship. Crew of about 250.
Same cook my entire 3 1/2 years aboard.
And I didn't say it tasted bad.
It didn't taste. Unless you salted it.
Then it tasted like salt.
Sometimes it came pre-salted though.

--Vic

"Vic Smith" wrote in message
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On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 20:33:42 -0500, HK wrote:

Vic Smith wrote:
On Mon, 09 Feb 2009 00:58:05 GMT, Zombie of Woodstock
wrote:


Odd - I've eaten Army, Air Force chow halls and the food was crap.

Navy food, by comparison, was excellent.

Espiecally in San Diego.

There's Navy food, and there's USS John King food.
But I'm a picky eater too.
The toast wasn't too bad. If it wasn't an hour old.

--Vic


Well, then, someone just didn't care. There's no reason for
institutional food to taste bad, even cheap institutional food, if the
people preparing it care. Not on a big ship.


Wasn't a big ship. Crew of about 250.
Same cook my entire 3 1/2 years aboard.
And I didn't say it tasted bad.
It didn't taste. Unless you salted it.
Then it tasted like salt.
Sometimes it came pre-salted though.

--Vic


One unit I was in had really great food. But the cook had been a
professional chef and used lots of spices. I think it depended a lot on the
base and if the commander was in to food.

On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 20:33:42 -0500, HK wrote:

Vic Smith wrote:
On Mon, 09 Feb 2009 00:58:05 GMT, Zombie of Woodstock
wrote:


Odd - I've eaten Army, Air Force chow halls and the food was crap.

Navy food, by comparison, was excellent.

Espiecally in San Diego.

There's Navy food, and there's USS John King food.
But I'm a picky eater too.
The toast wasn't too bad. If it wasn't an hour old.

--Vic


Well, then, someone just didn't care. There's no reason for
institutional food to taste bad, even cheap institutional food, if the
people preparing it care. Not on a big ship.

Again you give away the fact that you know absolutely nothing of the
military.

You'd be best served to stay out of any discussion about the military.

"Vic Smith" wrote in message
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On Mon, 09 Feb 2009 00:58:05 GMT, Zombie of Woodstock
wrote:



Odd - I've eaten Army, Air Force chow halls and the food was crap.

Navy food, by comparison, was excellent.

Espiecally in San Diego.

There's Navy food, and there's USS John King food.
But I'm a picky eater too.
The toast wasn't too bad. If it wasn't an hour old.

--Vic


I became addicted to Bug Juice.

Eisboch

On Mon, 9 Feb 2009 02:01:01 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:

I became addicted to Bug Juice.

Bug juice, powdered eggs, fried bologna, and mystery meat were among
the food items introduced to me by the Navy.
The bug juice tasted a bit different than the others.
I left them behind when I left the Navy behind.
The only thing the Navy addicted me to was a good shoe shine.
Still need my Kiwi, an old tooth brush, and a soft cotton cloth.
Don't do the spit shine though.
When bug juice showed up in the milk dispensers at breakfast, that
meant one thing to me. No more milk until replenishment.
And that meant my favorite meal, from the good kitchens of Kellogg's
and Elsie the cow, would disappear for a while.
Even a bowl full of frantically swimming weevils once didn't kill my
appetite for Kellogg's.
Three-four days out was as long as the milk lasted.
I don't recall Navy powdered milk for some reason. Might be because
time is merciful. Maybe the Navy was. Same effect.
I do recall my ma making that crap when money was tight.
All us kids hated it, so she gave up.

--Vic

"Vic Smith" wrote in message
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On Mon, 9 Feb 2009 02:01:01 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:

I became addicted to Bug Juice.

Bug juice, powdered eggs, fried bologna, and mystery meat were among
the food items introduced to me by the Navy.
The bug juice tasted a bit different than the others.
I left them behind when I left the Navy behind.
The only thing the Navy addicted me to was a good shoe shine.
Still need my Kiwi, an old tooth brush, and a soft cotton cloth.
Don't do the spit shine though.
When bug juice showed up in the milk dispensers at breakfast, that
meant one thing to me. No more milk until replenishment.
And that meant my favorite meal, from the good kitchens of Kellogg's
and Elsie the cow, would disappear for a while.
Even a bowl full of frantically swimming weevils once didn't kill my
appetite for Kellogg's.
Three-four days out was as long as the milk lasted.
I don't recall Navy powdered milk for some reason. Might be because
time is merciful. Maybe the Navy was. Same effect.
I do recall my ma making that crap when money was tight.
All us kids hated it, so she gave up.

--Vic


I used to like the powdered eggs. Pour enough ketchup on them and they were
not bad.
Ditto on the milk. A little 315' DE didn't store a lot of milk.
Like you said, 3 or 4 days out and it was gone.

We had an old Coke machine though. Not the kind that dispenses cans or
bottles however.
It mixed syrup with carbonated water into a cup. 5 cents per cup until it
also ran out.
That usually happened right after an underway replenishment or refueling
when the Captain would order the corpsman to issue all involved a shot of
bourbon to warm up. To make it last many would pour it into a cup of the
syrup Coke mix.

"Swiss Steak" about every other day. I never really knew why it was called
Swiss steak.
More like cooked grizzle.

My mother tried the powdered milk thing also. There was a
rebellion among us kids. Then she tried mixing it 50/50 with whole milk.
Still didn't hack it. We finally made my father drink a big glass of the
crap.
Never had powdered milk again.

Eisboch