On Jan 29, 6:58*pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message

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"Tim" wrote in message
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this was brought up by one of the distinguished posters here on
rec.boats, and when I said YES, I was given a "Sure ... snerk"

So I'd like to know, seeing I've got a box with a few pay stubs in it
from being a guest of Uncle Sugar, I'd say that doing military service
IS actually considered as a "job". But now I'm left in confusion
because the distinguished poster I've mentioned seems to be skeptical
of *that claim.

So I present this question to the other distinguished posters on
rec.boats:

"Do you, or do you not, consider service in the US military as being a
"job"?"

What say ye?

Not to sound corny, but the way I was raised and regarded it back when I
was young was that it was considered to be a duty for which you happened
to get paid. *Of course, when I first went in my pay was about 50 bucks
every two weeks, not counting some bonus pay.

For some, it's an honorable job and career. *Some milk it, just like any
other job.
Some benefit more from the time served than the time served. *(you hafta
read that twice).

I got a lot out of it. *Basically they paid me to go to school for half of
the almost 9 years I was in. But I also felt I earned it. * Fair deal..
But my time was back in the Vietnam, draft era and few, other than career
"lifers" were there because they wanted to be. * Some were. *I was.

That's the old military. * The new military is very professional, well
trained and I think the mentality is that it is more of a job (or career
for some). * But it is still an honorable duty to perform, regardless of
what some in here think.

Eisboch

$50 twice a month? *I was in the wrong service. *I started at $60 a month in
Feb. 1965.

But you probably paid more at your base PX

On Jan 29, 7:34*pm, John H wrote:
On Thu, 29 Jan 2009 16:58:09 -0800, "Calif Bill"
wrote:





"Eisboch" wrote in message
m...

"Tim" wrote in message
....
this was brought up by one of the distinguished posters here on
rec.boats, and when I said YES, I was given a "Sure ... snerk"

So I'd like to know, seeing I've got a box with a few pay stubs in it
from being a guest of Uncle Sugar, I'd say that doing military service
IS actually considered as a "job". But now I'm left in confusion
because the distinguished poster I've mentioned seems to be skeptical
of *that claim.

So I present this question to the other distinguished posters on
rec.boats:

"Do you, or do you not, consider service in the US military as being a
"job"?"

What say ye?

Not to sound corny, but the way I was raised and regarded it back when I
was young was that it was considered to be a duty for which you happened
to get paid. *Of course, when I first went in my pay was about 50 bucks
every two weeks, not counting some bonus pay.

For some, it's an honorable job and career. *Some milk it, just like any
other job.
Some benefit more from the time served than the time served. *(you hafta
read that twice).

I got a lot out of it. *Basically they paid me to go to school for half of
the almost 9 years I was in. But I also felt I earned it. * Fair deal.
But my time was back in the Vietnam, draft era and few, other than career
"lifers" were there because they wanted to be. * Some were. *I was..

That's the old military. * The new military is very professional, well
trained and I think the mentality is that it is more of a job (or career
for some). * But it is still an honorable duty to perform, regardless of
what some in here think.

Eisboch

$50 twice a month? *I was in the wrong service. *I started at $60 a month in
Feb. 1965.

That must have been after taxes. The base pay, as I remember, was $72/mo in
June when I was drafted.

Whoops, I was off by $6

http://www.afforums.com/ppost/data/648/11964.pdf
--
John H

For a great time, go here first...http://tinyurl.com/d3vxvm

* *Definition of a teenager?
* * *God's punishment...for enjoying sex. * *

in '44 Dad made $40.00 a month.

On Thu, 29 Jan 2009 16:58:09 -0800, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"Eisboch" wrote in message
m...

"Tim" wrote in message
...
this was brought up by one of the distinguished posters here on
rec.boats, and when I said YES, I was given a "Sure ... snerk"

So I'd like to know, seeing I've got a box with a few pay stubs in it
from being a guest of Uncle Sugar, I'd say that doing military service
IS actually considered as a "job". But now I'm left in confusion
because the distinguished poster I've mentioned seems to be skeptical
of that claim.

So I present this question to the other distinguished posters on
rec.boats:

"Do you, or do you not, consider service in the US military as being a
"job"?"

What say ye?


Not to sound corny, but the way I was raised and regarded it back when I
was young was that it was considered to be a duty for which you happened
to get paid. Of course, when I first went in my pay was about 50 bucks
every two weeks, not counting some bonus pay.

For some, it's an honorable job and career. Some milk it, just like any
other job.
Some benefit more from the time served than the time served. (you hafta
read that twice).

I got a lot out of it. Basically they paid me to go to school for half of
the almost 9 years I was in. But I also felt I earned it. Fair deal.
But my time was back in the Vietnam, draft era and few, other than career
"lifers" were there because they wanted to be. Some were. I was.


That's the old military. The new military is very professional, well
trained and I think the mentality is that it is more of a job (or career
for some). But it is still an honorable duty to perform, regardless of
what some in here think.

Eisboch

$50 twice a month? I was in the wrong service. I started at $60 a month in
Feb. 1965.


That must have been after taxes. The base pay, as I remember, was $72/mo in
June when I was drafted.

Whoops, I was off by $6

http://www.afforums.com/ppost/data/648/11964.pdf
--
John H

For a great time, go here first... http://tinyurl.com/d3vxvm

* Definition of a teenager?
God's punishment...for enjoying sex. *

On Thu, 29 Jan 2009 12:37:12 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

this was brought up by one of the distinguished posters here on
rec.boats, and when I said YES, I was given a "Sure ... snerk"

So I'd like to know, seeing I've got a box with a few pay stubs in it
from being a guest of Uncle Sugar, I'd say that doing military service
IS actually considered as a "job". But now I'm left in confusion
because the distinguished poster I've mentioned seems to be skeptical
of that claim.

So I present this question to the other distinguished posters on
rec.boats:

"Do you, or do you not, consider service in the US military as being a
"job"?"

What say ye?

No. You quit a job when you want to.
It's a duty to go in the military, and an obligation to fulfill when
you take the oath.
Doesn't mean it's not "work."
Doesn't mean there's no organized tasks to perform.
But it's not a "job."

--Vic

On Jan 29, 10:28*pm, Vic Smith
wrote:
On Thu, 29 Jan 2009 12:37:12 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:



this was brought up by one of the distinguished posters here on
rec.boats, and when I said YES, I was given a "Sure ... snerk"

So I'd like to know, seeing I've got a box with a few pay stubs in it
from being a guest of Uncle Sugar, I'd say that doing military service
IS actually considered as a "job". But now I'm left in confusion
because the distinguished poster I've mentioned seems to be skeptical
of *that claim.

So I present this question to the other distinguished posters on
rec.boats:

"Do you, or do you not, consider service in the US military as being a
"job"?"

What say ye?

No. *You quit a job when you want to.
It's a duty to go in the military, and an obligation to fulfill when
you take the oath.
Doesn't mean it's not "work."
Doesn't mean there's no organized tasks to perform.
But it's not a "job."

--Vic *


Good point, Vic.

But the original questioning was: "is it a "Job"? or a "Boondoggle?"

I said it was a "job," but another distinguished poster said it was a
"boondoggle"

I'm trying to gather opinions on which would be correct.

On Thu, 29 Jan 2009 20:49:32 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:


Good point, Vic.

But the original questioning was: "is it a "Job"? or a "Boondoggle?"

I said it was a "job," but another distinguished poster said it was a
"boondoggle"

I'm trying to gather opinions on which would be correct.

There's probably as many featherbedders in the military as in the
civilian world.
The difference is the obligation to die when the **** hits the fan.
Apples and oranges.

--Vic

On Jan 29, 11:00*pm, Vic Smith
The difference is the obligation to die when the **** hits the fan.
Apples and oranges.

--Vic

And to me that is a point of honor and duty.

On Jan 29, 7:55*pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
"Tim" wrote in message

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On Jan 29, 3:12 pm, wrote:



On Jan 29, 3:37 pm, Tim wrote:

this was brought up by one of the distinguished posters here on
rec.boats, and when I said YES, I was given a "Sure ... snerk"

So I'd like to know, seeing I've got a box with a few pay stubs in it
from being a guest of Uncle Sugar, I'd say that doing military service
IS actually considered as a "job". But now I'm left in confusion
because the distinguished poster I've mentioned seems to be skeptical
of that claim.

So I present this question to the other distinguished posters on
rec.boats:

"Do you, or do you not, consider service in the US military as being a
"job"?"

What say ye?

I say ignore the idiot. He's just a disgusting fat prick with no
redeeming values, no friends, and has the personality of a tree stump.-
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Oh, that's OK Loog. Actually its a fair quesiton that I would feel
comfortable to ask so that I may be further educated . And I'd like to
get opinions so I can see if I as well as others who served in the US
military, actually had a "job" or not.

And I really dont' know about the distinguished poster having the
personality of a tree stumpor not. . But in my own conjecture, I
thought tree stumps were kept for target practice...

I would think it is a job. *When I worked on airborne radars the civilians
on the next bench, doing the same thing considered it a job. *My buddy, a
West Pointer, did a job. *Whether in South East Asia getting shot at, or
attached to the embassy in Paris. *He did what was required and was paid for
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Hell yes it's a job, and a hard one at that. You get little pay, you
may be moved around several times in your career, and on and on.

"Tim" wrote in message
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On Jan 29, 3:07 pm, "mmc" wrote:
"Tim" wrote in message

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this was brought up by one of the distinguished posters here on
rec.boats, and when I said YES, I was given a "Sure ... snerk"

So I'd like to know, seeing I've got a box with a few pay stubs in it
from being a guest of Uncle Sugar, I'd say that doing military service
IS actually considered as a "job". But now I'm left in confusion
because the distinguished poster I've mentioned seems to be skeptical
of that claim.

So I present this question to the other distinguished posters on
rec.boats:

"Do you, or do you not, consider service in the US military as being a
"job"?"

What say ye?

Yep. More than a job, it's an adventure! For us Navy guys anyway.- Hide
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Oh yes. i forgot that.

But that brings up another question: Being an adventurer in the US
Navy, did you have a "job" or were you considered a "boondoggler?"

Thanks for the contrubution (and the enlightnment!)

Well, my first hitch was spent on a Frigate as a sonarman with secondary
duties as a line handler, nuke weps security, weapons (torpedoes) handlers
and member of the underway replenishment team.
I then went EOD, where we did a lot of crazy but fun stuff and got paid for
it. When I wasn't deployed I worked in the boat shop where we took care of
team rubber ducks, utility and work boats, as well as generators and diving
compressors.
I did work and Uncle Sugar paid me. I think it was a job.

On Jan 29, 5:19*pm, HK wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Jan 29, 3:00 pm, HK wrote:
Tim wrote:
this was brought up by one of the distinguished posters here on
rec.boats, and when I said YES, I was given a "Sure ... snerk"
So I'd like to know, seeing I've got a box with a few pay stubs in it
from being a guest of Uncle Sugar, I'd say that doing military service
IS actually considered as a "job". But now I'm left in confusion
because the distinguished poster I've mentioned seems to be skeptical
of *that claim.
So I present this question to the other distinguished posters on
rec.boats:
"Do you, or do you not, consider service in the US military as being a
"job"?"
What say ye?
I think if you are wearing a uniform in an active combat zone, it's a
job and a half. If you are in the Guard and working post Katrina NO, it
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Being in the Guard and working post Katrina, you ay "NO, it is a job"

???

Harry, I thought you stated that being in the military is a
"boondoggle"

I'm really confused now.

I suppose I should have spelled it out more carefully, considering the
audience here. Try this: If you are in the National Guard and worked in
New Orleans (NO) post-Katrina, it is a job. If you are performing rescue
service in the USCG, it is a job and a half.

The short version: if you are or were in the military and are or were
exposed to a high degree of mortal danger on a regular basis during your
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I'll spell a comment of yours very closely:

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Tim wrote:
On Jan 29, 2:20 pm, HK wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Jan 29, 2:09 pm, HK wrote:
Tim wrote:
I'm not sure what the raving lunatic means by "having never held a
real
job..." Being a lawyer is not a real job?
When did he actually practice law?
Being a teacher of
constitutional law is not a real job?
Maybe, but that's left to interpretation.
Being a community organizer is not a real job?
Nothing great about that, but then again Lennin was a community
organizer so I might give him some points there.
Being a U.S. Senator is not a real job?
The way he was in my state, being on the campaign trail for POTUS at
least 3 of his 4 years as senator?
NO!
Is being in the military a real job?
YES!
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Absolutely SURE!
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OK "Harry, you may discount me when I say the being in the military is
a "job" , and I know you laugh art JohnH and BAR for their service in
the militaryas not having a "job" but if you'd like other opinions,
you might ask Vic, Richard, or Tom for their opinions.



For some people, being in the military is a job. For others, it is a
boondoggle.