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On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 11:10:58 -0500, "JoeSpareBedroom"
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On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 11:04:52 -0500, "JoeSpareBedroom"
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On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 10:30:53 -0500, "JoeSpareBedroom"
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Have you noticed a liberal tendency to stoop to name-calling and
personal
insults? Does it enhance your self-esteem? Does it make your
'argument'
more persuasive?

That was the issue at hand. Did you skip over it?
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John H
Not any more.

Where's your courage?
--
John H
The subject is now State Street Bank.

I expect if I were in your shoes, I'd try to jump over those puddles
also.

At least you seem to have slowed the insults and name-calling, so maybe
you
got the message.

BTW, Iranian students don't seem to be too happy with Obama.

http://www.isna.ir/ISNA/PicView.aspx...75042-2&Lang=P

John H

Sadly, the picture makes no sense, and was probably staged by their
government.
Iran hasn't changed in near 30 years, they still hate the USA regardless
of who our president is.


Which Iran are you referring to? Everything I've read in real news sources
disputes your claim. Many Iranians view their president as a loose cannon,
like the one we just got rid of.



Indeed, and speaking of diplomacy, I am glad to see the state department
back in the hands of political and career diplomats, and no longer a
tool of the pentagram, er, pentagon.

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Indeed, and speaking of diplomacy, I am glad to see the state department
back in the hands of political and career diplomats, and no longer a tool
of the pentagram, er, pentagon.


The only thing I find disturbing about some of the rushed confirmations is
the willingness to overlook/ignore some character flaws or misdeeds in some
of the nominee's backgrounds because we are in such a critical "emergency"
situation economically and politically.

Didn't Obama state in his inauguration address that we will not sacrifice
principles in the execution of of policies?

This all sounds and feels disturbingly familiar.

Eisboch

Eisboch wrote:

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Indeed, and speaking of diplomacy, I am glad to see the state
department back in the hands of political and career diplomats, and no
longer a tool of the pentagram, er, pentagon.


The only thing I find disturbing about some of the rushed confirmations
is the willingness to overlook/ignore some character flaws or misdeeds
in some of the nominee's backgrounds because we are in such a critical
"emergency" situation economically and politically.

Didn't Obama state in his inauguration address that we will not
sacrifice principles in the execution of of policies?

This all sounds and feels disturbingly familiar.

Eisboch


After the "character flaws and misdeeds" of the last administration,
there's nothing I've seen or heard about the Obama nominees that raises
any issues stronger than the desire of the GOP not to appear whipped.

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Eisboch wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
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Indeed, and speaking of diplomacy, I am glad to see the state department
back in the hands of political and career diplomats, and no longer a
tool of the pentagram, er, pentagon.


The only thing I find disturbing about some of the rushed confirmations
is the willingness to overlook/ignore some character flaws or misdeeds in
some of the nominee's backgrounds because we are in such a critical
"emergency" situation economically and politically.

Didn't Obama state in his inauguration address that we will not sacrifice
principles in the execution of of policies?

This all sounds and feels disturbingly familiar.

Eisboch


After the "character flaws and misdeeds" of the last administration,
there's nothing I've seen or heard about the Obama nominees that raises
any issues stronger than the desire of the GOP not to appear whipped.


Harry, a lie is a lie. Tax evasion is tax evasion. Doesn't matter who
you are.

Eisboch

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Indeed, and speaking of diplomacy, I am glad to see the state department
back in the hands of political and career diplomats, and no longer a tool
of the pentagram, er, pentagon.


The only thing I find disturbing about some of the rushed confirmations is
the willingness to overlook/ignore some character flaws or misdeeds in
some of the nominee's backgrounds because we are in such a critical
"emergency" situation economically and politically.

Didn't Obama state in his inauguration address that we will not sacrifice
principles in the execution of of policies?

This all sounds and feels disturbingly familiar.

Eisboch


Perhaps congress is looking for experience FAST. They got some. Now, if only
someone would talk Obama into asking Gates to stick around.....

I suppose we could dredge up more like Mike Brown, whose experience running
a horse association served us so well.

On Jan 22, 9:45*am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message

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"HK" wrote in message
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Indeed, and speaking of diplomacy, I am glad to see the state department
back in the hands of political and career diplomats, and no longer a tool
of the pentagram, er, pentagon.

The only thing I find disturbing about some of the rushed confirmations is
the willingness to overlook/ignore some character flaws or misdeeds in
some of the nominee's backgrounds because we are in such a critical
"emergency" situation economically and politically.

Didn't Obama state in his inauguration address that we will not sacrifice
principles in the execution of of policies?

This all sounds and feels disturbingly familiar.

Eisboch

Perhaps congress is looking for experience FAST. They got some. Now, if only
someone would talk Obama into asking Gates to stick around.....

I suppose we could dredge up more like Mike Brown, whose experience running
a horse association served us so well.- Hide quoted text -

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Hummm, if exerience is an issue, why the hell did you elect Obama???

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Indeed, and speaking of diplomacy, I am glad to see the state department
back in the hands of political and career diplomats, and no longer a
tool of the pentagram, er, pentagon.


The only thing I find disturbing about some of the rushed confirmations
is the willingness to overlook/ignore some character flaws or misdeeds in
some of the nominee's backgrounds because we are in such a critical
"emergency" situation economically and politically.

Didn't Obama state in his inauguration address that we will not sacrifice
principles in the execution of of policies?

This all sounds and feels disturbingly familiar.

Eisboch


Perhaps congress is looking for experience FAST. They got some. Now, if
only someone would talk Obama into asking Gates to stick around.....

I suppose we could dredge up more like Mike Brown, whose experience
running a horse association served us so well.


I agree that Hillary is a very intelligent, shrewd and politically talented
person.
It still doesn't excuse the fact that she has demonstrated a willingness to
lie in order to achieve a personal goal.

I just can't get that out of my head, especially when Obama is
promoting/demanding honesty and integrity of government in the future.

Eisboch

On Jan 22, 9:49*am, "Eisboch" wrote:
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"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"HK" wrote in message
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Indeed, and speaking of diplomacy, I am glad to see the state department
back in the hands of political and career diplomats, and no longer a
tool of the pentagram, er, pentagon.

The only thing I find disturbing about some of the rushed confirmations
is the willingness to overlook/ignore some character flaws or misdeeds in
some of the nominee's backgrounds because we are in such a critical
"emergency" situation economically and politically.

Didn't Obama state in his inauguration address that we will not sacrifice
principles in the execution of of policies?

This all sounds and feels disturbingly familiar.

Eisboch

Perhaps congress is looking for experience FAST. They got some. Now, if
only someone would talk Obama into asking Gates to stick around.....

I suppose we could dredge up more like Mike Brown, whose experience
running a horse association served us so well.

I agree that Hillary is a very intelligent, shrewd and politically talented
person.
It still doesn't excuse the fact that she has demonstrated a willingness to
lie in order to achieve a personal goal.

I just can't get that out of my head, especially when Obama is
promoting/demanding honesty and integrity of government in the future.

Eisboch- Hide quoted text -

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You shouldn't let yourself be fooled by what Obama says. He tends to
change his story depending on the audience. The biggest joke played on
the American public was the MSM refusing to call him out on these
issues...

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Indeed, and speaking of diplomacy, I am glad to see the state
department back in the hands of political and career diplomats, and
no longer a tool of the pentagram, er, pentagon.


The only thing I find disturbing about some of the rushed
confirmations is the willingness to overlook/ignore some character
flaws or misdeeds in some of the nominee's backgrounds because we are
in such a critical "emergency" situation economically and politically.

Didn't Obama state in his inauguration address that we will not
sacrifice principles in the execution of of policies?

This all sounds and feels disturbingly familiar.

Eisboch


Perhaps congress is looking for experience FAST. They got some. Now,
if only someone would talk Obama into asking Gates to stick around.....

I suppose we could dredge up more like Mike Brown, whose experience
running a horse association served us so well.


I agree that Hillary is a very intelligent, shrewd and politically
talented person.
It still doesn't excuse the fact that she has demonstrated a willingness
to lie in order to achieve a personal goal.

I just can't get that out of my head, especially when Obama is
promoting/demanding honesty and integrity of government in the future.

Eisboch


You didn't seem so outspoken during the Bush Cheney Rumsfeld Gonzo
Administration, when virtually everything any of them said on
significant issues was a lie.

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On Jan 22, 9:45 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message

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"HK" wrote in message
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Indeed, and speaking of diplomacy, I am glad to see the state
department
back in the hands of political and career diplomats, and no longer a
tool
of the pentagram, er, pentagon.

The only thing I find disturbing about some of the rushed confirmations
is
the willingness to overlook/ignore some character flaws or misdeeds in
some of the nominee's backgrounds because we are in such a critical
"emergency" situation economically and politically.

Didn't Obama state in his inauguration address that we will not
sacrifice
principles in the execution of of policies?

This all sounds and feels disturbingly familiar.

Eisboch

Perhaps congress is looking for experience FAST. They got some. Now, if
only
someone would talk Obama into asking Gates to stick around.....

I suppose we could dredge up more like Mike Brown, whose experience
running
a horse association served us so well.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Hummm, if exerience is an issue, why the hell did you elect Obama???

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I didn't really vote FOR Obama. I voted AGAINST two things:

1) McCain, who's too wrapped up in trying to equal his father and
grandfather's achievements, probably using other people's kids as pawns to
achieve that end.

2) Palin, who displayed two characteristics which I find unacceptable for
high office, and I won't budge on these characteristics. Don't ask what they
are. If you don't already know, we'll be wasting our time discussing them.