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JoeSpareBedroom January 17th 09 03:10 PM

Circuit City Kaput
 
"BAR" wrote in message
...
John H wrote:
On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 08:40:10 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

"John H" wrote in message
...

I wish someone could explain the satisfaction Harry finds in the fact
that
companies are going out of business.

Is this good for liberals somehow? Circuit City had employees who had
jobs,
even if those folks did nothing. Is it in the best interest of liberals
that the unemployed numbers grow larger?

I'm missing something somewhere.

Some companies deserve to go out of business due to the lack of quality
of their service, products or internal culture.

In the case of Circuit City, it was on the edge anyway. The economic
crisis and retail downturn was simply the straw that broke the camel's
back.

Eisboch


Agreed. Circuit City just happened to be the company 'du jour'. Harry, or
other liberals, continuously post articles of companies losing money or
going out of business. And then make gleeful 'I told you so' comments.
That's what I can't understand. What is there about companies going out
of business that brings joy to the
heart of a liberal?

Is it just simply 'anti-corporation'?


It really baffles me why you would cheer a corporation going bankrupt and
putting 30,000 people on the unemployment line. The people who suffer the
most are the 30,000 people on the unemployment line not the executives of
the company.



The vast majority of CC's employees got paid for not doing what the public
expected in that capacity, best described as consultation-based sales. Do
you think people who don't do their job should get paid for it?



BAR[_3_] January 17th 09 03:15 PM

Circuit City Kaput
 
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message
...
John H wrote:
On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 08:40:10 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

"John H" wrote in message
...

I wish someone could explain the satisfaction Harry finds in the fact
that
companies are going out of business.

Is this good for liberals somehow? Circuit City had employees who had
jobs,
even if those folks did nothing. Is it in the best interest of liberals
that the unemployed numbers grow larger?

I'm missing something somewhere.
Some companies deserve to go out of business due to the lack of quality
of their service, products or internal culture.

In the case of Circuit City, it was on the edge anyway. The economic
crisis and retail downturn was simply the straw that broke the camel's
back.

Eisboch
Agreed. Circuit City just happened to be the company 'du jour'. Harry, or
other liberals, continuously post articles of companies losing money or
going out of business. And then make gleeful 'I told you so' comments.
That's what I can't understand. What is there about companies going out
of business that brings joy to the
heart of a liberal?

Is it just simply 'anti-corporation'?

It really baffles me why you would cheer a corporation going bankrupt and
putting 30,000 people on the unemployment line. The people who suffer the
most are the 30,000 people on the unemployment line not the executives of
the company.



The vast majority of CC's employees got paid for not doing what the public
expected in that capacity, best described as consultation-based sales. Do
you think people who don't do their job should get paid for it?


If you do what your boss expects you to do then you have earned your
pay. If my boss wants me to sit in the corner and keep my mouth shut I
can do it or quit. Your opinion of whether I am doing my job is irrelevant.

John H[_8_] January 17th 09 03:16 PM

Circuit City Kaput
 
On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 11:02:48 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:


"Eisboch" wrote in message
m...

"Don White" wrote in message
...


Yikes... Sunday morning...
should be *budget* and *demanded*


Check your watch.

It's Saturday.

Eisboch


mmmm.. hee hee...I'd better get a job or something... I'm losing contact
with reality.
My Swiss Army watch isn't much help...it thinks today is the 16th.
The analog type watch gets mixed up between 30 and 31 day months not to
mention a short month like February.


I'll bet you're supposed to roll over an extra day at the end of a 30 day
month. Hell, if it's the watch, what happened at the end of February? March
must have been a mess.

JoeSpareBedroom January 17th 09 03:19 PM

Circuit City Kaput
 
"BAR" wrote in message
...
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message
...
John H wrote:
On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 08:40:10 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:

"John H" wrote in message
...

I wish someone could explain the satisfaction Harry finds in the fact
that
companies are going out of business.

Is this good for liberals somehow? Circuit City had employees who had
jobs,
even if those folks did nothing. Is it in the best interest of
liberals
that the unemployed numbers grow larger?

I'm missing something somewhere.
Some companies deserve to go out of business due to the lack of
quality of their service, products or internal culture.

In the case of Circuit City, it was on the edge anyway. The economic
crisis and retail downturn was simply the straw that broke the camel's
back.

Eisboch
Agreed. Circuit City just happened to be the company 'du jour'. Harry,
or
other liberals, continuously post articles of companies losing money or
going out of business. And then make gleeful 'I told you so' comments.
That's what I can't understand. What is there about companies going out
of business that brings joy to the
heart of a liberal?

Is it just simply 'anti-corporation'?
It really baffles me why you would cheer a corporation going bankrupt
and putting 30,000 people on the unemployment line. The people who
suffer the most are the 30,000 people on the unemployment line not the
executives of the company.



The vast majority of CC's employees got paid for not doing what the
public expected in that capacity, best described as consultation-based
sales. Do you think people who don't do their job should get paid for it?


If you do what your boss expects you to do then you have earned your pay.
If my boss wants me to sit in the corner and keep my mouth shut I can do
it or quit. Your opinion of whether I am doing my job is irrelevant.



You just said customers' opinions don't matter. What reality are you living
in? The customers voted and Circuit City is gone.

What type of business are you in?



BAR[_3_] January 17th 09 03:37 PM

Circuit City Kaput
 
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message
...
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message
...
John H wrote:
On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 08:40:10 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:

"John H" wrote in message
...

I wish someone could explain the satisfaction Harry finds in the fact
that
companies are going out of business.

Is this good for liberals somehow? Circuit City had employees who had
jobs,
even if those folks did nothing. Is it in the best interest of
liberals
that the unemployed numbers grow larger?

I'm missing something somewhere.
Some companies deserve to go out of business due to the lack of
quality of their service, products or internal culture.

In the case of Circuit City, it was on the edge anyway. The economic
crisis and retail downturn was simply the straw that broke the camel's
back.

Eisboch
Agreed. Circuit City just happened to be the company 'du jour'. Harry,
or
other liberals, continuously post articles of companies losing money or
going out of business. And then make gleeful 'I told you so' comments.
That's what I can't understand. What is there about companies going out
of business that brings joy to the
heart of a liberal?

Is it just simply 'anti-corporation'?
It really baffles me why you would cheer a corporation going bankrupt
and putting 30,000 people on the unemployment line. The people who
suffer the most are the 30,000 people on the unemployment line not the
executives of the company.

The vast majority of CC's employees got paid for not doing what the
public expected in that capacity, best described as consultation-based
sales. Do you think people who don't do their job should get paid for it?

If you do what your boss expects you to do then you have earned your pay.
If my boss wants me to sit in the corner and keep my mouth shut I can do
it or quit. Your opinion of whether I am doing my job is irrelevant.



You just said customers' opinions don't matter. What reality are you living
in? The customers voted and Circuit City is gone.

What type of business are you in?


No, I did not say customers' opinions don't matter.

My boss determines whether I get paid or terminated. If do what my boss
tells me to do I get paid and I don't do what my boss tells me to do I
get terminated.

Your opinion of my work as a co-worker, peer of my manager or someone
else in my company doesn't really matter to me as long as I am doing
what my boss tells me to do.

You as a customer can come into any business and complain as much as you
want. But, if I am doing what my boss tells me to do I will still get
paid. If my boss wants me to do something differently he will tell me to
do it differently.

Your opinion about how a business is run is just that an opinion. When
you have successfully run a national retail chain for more than 70 years
then I will listen to your thoughts on manager and employee relations.

JoeSpareBedroom January 17th 09 03:42 PM

Circuit City Kaput
 
"BAR" wrote in message
...
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message
...
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message
...
John H wrote:
On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 08:40:10 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:

"John H" wrote in message
...

I wish someone could explain the satisfaction Harry finds in the
fact that
companies are going out of business.

Is this good for liberals somehow? Circuit City had employees who
had jobs,
even if those folks did nothing. Is it in the best interest of
liberals
that the unemployed numbers grow larger?

I'm missing something somewhere.
Some companies deserve to go out of business due to the lack of
quality of their service, products or internal culture.

In the case of Circuit City, it was on the edge anyway. The
economic crisis and retail downturn was simply the straw that broke
the camel's back.

Eisboch
Agreed. Circuit City just happened to be the company 'du jour'.
Harry, or
other liberals, continuously post articles of companies losing money
or
going out of business. And then make gleeful 'I told you so'
comments.
That's what I can't understand. What is there about companies going
out of business that brings joy to the
heart of a liberal?

Is it just simply 'anti-corporation'?
It really baffles me why you would cheer a corporation going bankrupt
and putting 30,000 people on the unemployment line. The people who
suffer the most are the 30,000 people on the unemployment line not the
executives of the company.

The vast majority of CC's employees got paid for not doing what the
public expected in that capacity, best described as consultation-based
sales. Do you think people who don't do their job should get paid for
it?
If you do what your boss expects you to do then you have earned your
pay. If my boss wants me to sit in the corner and keep my mouth shut I
can do it or quit. Your opinion of whether I am doing my job is
irrelevant.



You just said customers' opinions don't matter. What reality are you
living in? The customers voted and Circuit City is gone.

What type of business are you in?


No, I did not say customers' opinions don't matter.

My boss determines whether I get paid or terminated. If do what my boss
tells me to do I get paid and I don't do what my boss tells me to do I get
terminated.

Your opinion of my work as a co-worker, peer of my manager or someone else
in my company doesn't really matter to me as long as I am doing what my
boss tells me to do.

You as a customer can come into any business and complain as much as you
want. But, if I am doing what my boss tells me to do I will still get
paid. If my boss wants me to do something differently he will tell me to
do it differently.

Your opinion about how a business is run is just that an opinion. When you
have successfully run a national retail chain for more than 70 years then
I will listen to your thoughts on manager and employee relations.



Why do you think CC is folding?



[email protected] January 17th 09 03:44 PM

Circuit City Kaput
 
On Jan 16, 10:37*pm, hk wrote:
Eisboch wrote:

"Eisboch" wrote in message
m...


"hk" wrote in message
news:tOKdnSJgIZhGpezUnZ2dnUVZ_jOdnZ2d@earthlink. com...


Circuit City to liquidate, shutter stores
Fri Jan 16, 2009 8:08pm EST


By Karen Jacobs and Emily Chasan


ATLANTA/RICHMOND, Virginia (Reuters) - Bankrupt electronics retailer
Circuit City Stores said on Friday it will liquidate its assets and
shutter hundreds of U.S. stores after failing to reach a deal to sell
the company.


Good riddance. *Circuit City was one of the worst retail stores for
consumer electronics (or anything for that matter) *that I can think
of. Sales "associates" walking around with cell phones stuck in their
ear, talking to friends or congregating in groups yuking it up while
customers wait at the register to pay for purchases or need
assistance. *We had two in this area, one was in business for several
years, the other relatively new. *Both stores had the same cavalier
culture when it came to the customers.


BTW, here's another recent bankruptcy that is really too bad, but it was
inevitable.
"Sound Advice" was a decent mid to low high end quality audio retailer
based in Florida until they were purchased by Tweeter in 2001. *Since
then, both companies have been on a downward slide and recently threw in
the towel and went belly up. * Good write up on Sound Advice in the
first link.
The second link is why high end, good quality audio equipment is
becoming a thing of the past.
People are more interested in having "thousands" of files of compressed
crap on their iPods instead of high quality recordings worthy of decent
equipment. * Sad.


http://www.audioholics.com/news/editorials/sound-advice


http://www.audioholics.com/news/edit...-down-of-audio


Eisboch


I sometimes play my ipod through my stereo...sounds just a hair below a
well-done CD. Nothing beats an ipod for portable entertainment.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Oh, yes, electronically compressed sound is perfect........
We can certainly tell by your above bull**** that you aren't the
audiophile you claim to be!

Eisboch[_4_] January 17th 09 04:38 PM

Circuit City Kaput
 

"John H" wrote in message
...


I'll bet you're supposed to roll over an extra day at the end of a 30 day
month. Hell, if it's the watch, what happened at the end of February?
March
must have been a mess.


Not to mention the extra second they tacked on at the end of last year.
Musta really thrown that Swiss Army watch on it's back.

Eisboch


[email protected] January 17th 09 05:01 PM

Circuit City Kaput
 
On Jan 17, 11:51*am, wrote:
On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 08:02:23 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:

High sample rates (320kbps) certainly makes them better but the files get
bigger. * Wav files sound best because there's no compression, but the files
are huge. *People aren't into quality, they are into quantity, so they pack
their iPods and mp3 players with low quality, low sample rate files. *I just
can't get into that. *Despite what some claim, I can (and so can my wife)
distinguish the difference of a high quality CD PCM track and a high sample
rate conversion of it to mp3.


You can't replace what isn't there. *But, with Audacity you can add some
depth to get rid of the coffee can sound.
As discussed many times before, it all depends on what you are listening to
them on. *An iPod plugged into a docking station or a non-revealing audio
system sounds ok for background music.


I have been migrating to the biggest sample rate I can get. "Huge" is
a relative thing when you can get a 2 gig SD card for $10. That is one
reason why I like my $30 Sansa better than an Ipod. It has an SD slot.
That is the cassette of the 21st century. Even with WAVs you can get a
couple hundred on a card and more like 400-500 MP3s.


Yup, I have a sansa and I use the biggest files I can, I have a couple
mini 2 gig chips I can put in. My kid can't do that with her Ipod... I
also have FM for those feeling lucky days...

hk January 17th 09 05:09 PM

Circuit City Kaput
 
wrote:
On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 08:02:23 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:

High sample rates (320kbps) certainly makes them better but the files get
bigger. Wav files sound best because there's no compression, but the files
are huge. People aren't into quality, they are into quantity, so they pack
their iPods and mp3 players with low quality, low sample rate files. I just
can't get into that. Despite what some claim, I can (and so can my wife)
distinguish the difference of a high quality CD PCM track and a high sample
rate conversion of it to mp3.

You can't replace what isn't there. But, with Audacity you can add some
depth to get rid of the coffee can sound.
As discussed many times before, it all depends on what you are listening to
them on. An iPod plugged into a docking station or a non-revealing audio
system sounds ok for background music.



I have been migrating to the biggest sample rate I can get. "Huge" is
a relative thing when you can get a 2 gig SD card for $10. That is one
reason why I like my $30 Sansa better than an Ipod. It has an SD slot.
That is the cassette of the 21st century. Even with WAVs you can get a
couple hundred on a card and more like 400-500 MP3s.



If I am not mistaken, my iPod has a 50 or 50 gig hard drive. You'd have
to buy 30 2 gig $10 SD cards to match the capacity. That's a lot more
than I paid for my iPod.

Plus, SD cars are small. If you are always swapping them out to get to
the music on another card, well...



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