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On Jan 18, 8:28*am, HK wrote:
Eisboch wrote: "hk" wrote in message om... I remember Geoworks...at least the name. Not much else. Geoworks came out around the same time as Windows 3.0 and was a similar GUI interface. I think the original Apple computers had the first mouse driven "click" to navigate type GUI OS and Geoworks was an attempt at a PC version Last I knew, Geoworks was still around but not doing this type of program software development. Eisboch When I was about to buy my first pc, IBM and Apple had just come out with competing models...the Apple Macintosh I think it was called. Anyway, I looked at both, and decided against the Apple because the company was charging extra for add-on numeric keyboard and the numerics were part of the standard IBM keyboard. My first pc came with WordStar. I hated it. Fortunately, a few days later, I stopped by the computer store to whine, and the sales guy gave me something called Volkswriter. It was *the* word processor for computer newbies like me. Great little word processor. Had a clackety-clack daisywheel printer and a real slow Hayes modem. Now, as my crepitude approaches, I have pulled my PC desktop out of service to set it up as a server and for the moment I am using my Apple Mac as both a Mac and a PC. I need the PC mode because for a couple of the software packages I use, there are no Mac counterparts. One of these happens to be the software for my Garmin chart plotter. Most of the software suites, though, work about the same on Macs and PCs. Some of the Mac software is a bit more ergonomic than the PC software. As soon as I get around to it, I'll be setting up an Apple desktop machine.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - You keep talking about your "server". Don't you mean back up computer? What software are you running on this so called server? |
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"HK" wrote in message ... My first pc came with WordStar. I hated it. Fortunately, a few days later, I stopped by the computer store to whine, and the sales guy gave me something called Volkswriter. It was *the* word processor for computer newbies like me. Great little word processor. Had a clackety-clack daisywheel printer and a real slow Hayes modem. My first word processor was a Magnavox VideoWriter, purchased in the late 1980s. It was a dedicated word processing machine with built-in printer. Even had a spell check. I wrote many proposals and reports on it before finally getting a real PC .... the Laser Pal 286. I gave the VideoWriter away. I shouldn't have. They have become a collectible item and have a weird, cult following. http://www.eisboch.com/mvw.JPG Eisboch |
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On Jan 18, 9:41*am, hk wrote:
wrote: On Jan 18, 8:28 am, HK wrote: Eisboch wrote: "hk" wrote in message news:FqmdnevrffQ8gO7UnZ2dnUVZ_vSdnZ2d@earthlink .com... I remember Geoworks...at least the name. Not much else. Geoworks came out around the same time as Windows 3.0 and was a similar GUI interface. I think the original Apple computers had the first mouse driven "click" to navigate type GUI OS and Geoworks was an attempt at a PC version Last I knew, Geoworks was still around but not doing this type of program software development. Eisboch When I was about to buy my first pc, IBM and Apple had just come out with competing models...the Apple Macintosh I think it was called. Anyway, I looked at both, and decided against the Apple because the company was charging extra for add-on numeric keyboard and the numerics were part of the standard IBM keyboard. My first pc came with WordStar. I hated it. Fortunately, a few days later, I stopped by the computer store to whine, and the sales guy gave me something called Volkswriter. It was *the* word processor for computer newbies like me. Great little word processor. Had a clackety-clack daisywheel printer and a real slow Hayes modem. Now, as my crepitude approaches, I have pulled my PC desktop out of service to set it up as a server and for the moment I am using my Apple Mac as both a Mac and a PC. I need the PC mode because for a couple of the software packages I use, there are no Mac counterparts. One of these happens to be the software for my Garmin chart plotter. Most of the software suites, though, work about the same on Macs and PCs. Some of the Mac software is a bit more ergonomic than the PC software. As soon as I get around to it, I'll be setting up an Apple desktop machine.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - You keep talking about your "server". Don't you mean back up computer? What software are you running on this so called server? I don't need a "back up computer." I have an HP MediaSmart Server, which runs MS's Windows Home Server software, does automatic backups, and runs a distribution system for movies, music, et cetera. I'm not running any software on my future server. I haven't set it up yet. I'm in the process of cleaning it up, doing a couple of hardware upgrades, et cetera. It still has a copy of VISTA on it. Why are you so interested in this?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Pfffttt..... google, google, google...... Windoze hero;) |
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Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message m... BAR wrote: hk wrote: BAR wrote: hk wrote: Eisboch wrote: "hk" wrote in message m... If I am not mistaken, my iPod has a 50 or 50 gig hard drive. You'd have to buy 30 2 gig $10 SD cards to match the capacity. That's a lot more than I paid for my iPod. Plus, SD cars are small. If you are always swapping them out to get to the music on another card, well... You know, I think I am still hung up from the old days of having a PAL 286 computer with a whopping 40Mb hard drive. I became very frugal with disk space, saving all my documents on floppy disk so the hard drive had room for programs. Its a habit I still have, even though my newest computer has a 320Gb drive plus an additional backup drive. I keep it squeaky clean of misc. stuff that I really don't need. I guess I can store some stuff without worrying about running out of space. Eisboch My first PC had only a floppy drive. It wasn't until I got my hands on an S-100 bus computer that I encountered a hard drive, but I think it was only 20megs... Yeah right? What processor was your S-100 bus computer running? Compupro '286, so it was running an Intel 80286. Hell this was more than 20 years ago, fella, when you were still puking beer into your jockey shorts after standing guard outside the portipotty at the marine barracks. Ever see a Compupro? Big, heavy box. What OS did you run on this Compupro '286? DR's CP/M-86, licensed to Compupro. But...there was a bootleg MS OS around, too. It sorta ran an early version of Flight Simulator. You could boot the MS OS from a floppy. I don't remember a whole lot more. It wasn't "my" Compupro, it was an editorial review model that I had for about six months. It was a beast. I remember a version of Flight Simulator than ran from a floppy on the pre-286 machines (forget the nomenclature). The "airplane" was nothing more than a cross and there really wasn't any terrain to speak of. BTW, the Laser Pal 286 computers I had (the first computers I had in the company) ran on DOS 4.1 and were loaded with the GeoWorks Ensemble and Prodigy using a 2400-baud modem. The GeoWorks Ensemble was a Windows-like program that included a wordprocesser, a spreadsheet and something else that I can't remember. Processor speed was either 8 or 12 MHz (no typo), depending on the position of a "turbo" button. It seems that 12 MHz was too fast for some of the software of the day. It had 640k (that's "k") of memory with an additional 384K of "extended" memory. Drives: 5 1/4-inch 1.2MB floppy, 3 1/2-inch 1.44MB floppy, 42MB hard With monitor, it was just under $2000. Eisboch Yeah, the first one we brought home was a Packard Bell, 20 mb hdd, 1.2mb-5 1/4" floppy, and a 12 baud modem.. Think it ran Dos 3.0 or something like that.. Can't remember the name of the system we had before that, it was some kind of game system based thing iirc... ----------------- www.Newsgroup-Binaries.com - *Completion*Retention*Speed* Access your favorite newsgroups from home or on the road ----------------- |
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SmallBoats.com wrote:
Eisboch wrote: "hk" wrote in message m... BAR wrote: hk wrote: BAR wrote: hk wrote: Eisboch wrote: "hk" wrote in message m... If I am not mistaken, my iPod has a 50 or 50 gig hard drive. You'd have to buy 30 2 gig $10 SD cards to match the capacity. That's a lot more than I paid for my iPod. Plus, SD cars are small. If you are always swapping them out to get to the music on another card, well... You know, I think I am still hung up from the old days of having a PAL 286 computer with a whopping 40Mb hard drive. I became very frugal with disk space, saving all my documents on floppy disk so the hard drive had room for programs. Its a habit I still have, even though my newest computer has a 320Gb drive plus an additional backup drive. I keep it squeaky clean of misc. stuff that I really don't need. I guess I can store some stuff without worrying about running out of space. Eisboch My first PC had only a floppy drive. It wasn't until I got my hands on an S-100 bus computer that I encountered a hard drive, but I think it was only 20megs... Yeah right? What processor was your S-100 bus computer running? Compupro '286, so it was running an Intel 80286. Hell this was more than 20 years ago, fella, when you were still puking beer into your jockey shorts after standing guard outside the portipotty at the marine barracks. Ever see a Compupro? Big, heavy box. What OS did you run on this Compupro '286? DR's CP/M-86, licensed to Compupro. But...there was a bootleg MS OS around, too. It sorta ran an early version of Flight Simulator. You could boot the MS OS from a floppy. I don't remember a whole lot more. It wasn't "my" Compupro, it was an editorial review model that I had for about six months. It was a beast. I remember a version of Flight Simulator than ran from a floppy on the pre-286 machines (forget the nomenclature). The "airplane" was nothing more than a cross and there really wasn't any terrain to speak of. BTW, the Laser Pal 286 computers I had (the first computers I had in the company) ran on DOS 4.1 and were loaded with the GeoWorks Ensemble and Prodigy using a 2400-baud modem. The GeoWorks Ensemble was a Windows-like program that included a wordprocesser, a spreadsheet and something else that I can't remember. Processor speed was either 8 or 12 MHz (no typo), depending on the position of a "turbo" button. It seems that 12 MHz was too fast for some of the software of the day. It had 640k (that's "k") of memory with an additional 384K of "extended" memory. Drives: 5 1/4-inch 1.2MB floppy, 3 1/2-inch 1.44MB floppy, 42MB hard With monitor, it was just under $2000. Eisboch Yeah, the first one we brought home was a Packard Bell, 20 mb hdd, 1.2mb-5 1/4" floppy, and a 12 baud modem.. Think it ran Dos 3.0 or something like that.. Can't remember the name of the system we had before that, it was some kind of game system based thing iirc... Oh yeah, the Pac Bell was an 8086 iirc... ----------------- www.Newsgroup-Binaries.com - *Completion*Retention*Speed* Access your favorite newsgroups from home or on the road ----------------- |
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SmallBoats.com wrote:
Eisboch wrote: "hk" wrote in message m... BAR wrote: hk wrote: BAR wrote: hk wrote: Eisboch wrote: "hk" wrote in message m... If I am not mistaken, my iPod has a 50 or 50 gig hard drive. You'd have to buy 30 2 gig $10 SD cards to match the capacity. That's a lot more than I paid for my iPod. Plus, SD cars are small. If you are always swapping them out to get to the music on another card, well... You know, I think I am still hung up from the old days of having a PAL 286 computer with a whopping 40Mb hard drive. I became very frugal with disk space, saving all my documents on floppy disk so the hard drive had room for programs. Its a habit I still have, even though my newest computer has a 320Gb drive plus an additional backup drive. I keep it squeaky clean of misc. stuff that I really don't need. I guess I can store some stuff without worrying about running out of space. Eisboch My first PC had only a floppy drive. It wasn't until I got my hands on an S-100 bus computer that I encountered a hard drive, but I think it was only 20megs... Yeah right? What processor was your S-100 bus computer running? Compupro '286, so it was running an Intel 80286. Hell this was more than 20 years ago, fella, when you were still puking beer into your jockey shorts after standing guard outside the portipotty at the marine barracks. Ever see a Compupro? Big, heavy box. What OS did you run on this Compupro '286? DR's CP/M-86, licensed to Compupro. But...there was a bootleg MS OS around, too. It sorta ran an early version of Flight Simulator. You could boot the MS OS from a floppy. I don't remember a whole lot more. It wasn't "my" Compupro, it was an editorial review model that I had for about six months. It was a beast. I remember a version of Flight Simulator than ran from a floppy on the pre-286 machines (forget the nomenclature). The "airplane" was nothing more than a cross and there really wasn't any terrain to speak of. BTW, the Laser Pal 286 computers I had (the first computers I had in the company) ran on DOS 4.1 and were loaded with the GeoWorks Ensemble and Prodigy using a 2400-baud modem. The GeoWorks Ensemble was a Windows-like program that included a wordprocesser, a spreadsheet and something else that I can't remember. Processor speed was either 8 or 12 MHz (no typo), depending on the position of a "turbo" button. It seems that 12 MHz was too fast for some of the software of the day. It had 640k (that's "k") of memory with an additional 384K of "extended" memory. Drives: 5 1/4-inch 1.2MB floppy, 3 1/2-inch 1.44MB floppy, 42MB hard With monitor, it was just under $2000. Eisboch Yeah, the first one we brought home was a Packard Bell, 20 mb hdd, 1.2mb-5 1/4" floppy, and a 12 baud modem.. Think it ran Dos 3.0 or something like that.. Can't remember the name of the system we had before that, it was some kind of game system based thing iirc.. ----------------- Gee...and I thought my 300 bps modem was slow. A 12 baud modem? Some network guru you are. |
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On 16-Jan-2009, hk wrote: Who needs WMDs to take down the United States? WMD's would save money and make it less painless. Without WMD's, 65% of "Americans" still have to send their depressed wages to Asian countries for cars, 99% of them have to send the remainder of their declining wages to red China, Viet Nam and other 3rd world sink holes for their less expensive household items and wardrobe. With this behavior ongoing for 30 years, however, it won't take long (1, 1.5 years?) to complete the job. The results will NOT be reversed, however, even if the scum in government borrow enough money from other countries to double your pittance handout for your ongoing silence. (to $2K). Kruschev was right. Learn to live like Mexicans and Haitians. You DO reap what you sew. |
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