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Don White wrote:
"Calif Bill" wrote in message
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"Eisboch" wrote in message
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iPods are having an effect, but the bigger issue, I think, is lack of
imagination and just plain balls in retailing. That's why this retailer
keeps growing every year:

http://www.rowephoto.com/index.html

Mid to high quality audio, full service, well-trained staff with
outrageous product knowledge. Began as a photo store 110 years ago.
Added audio & video in the mid-1980s. The stores are always busy. In a
sense, the owner built the business by responding to the big discounters
with "So what?" Wegmans (grocery chain) does the same thing.

Hopefully they will stay around because they are diversified. There used
to be a couple of decent high-end audio shops around my area but they
have all folded. The demand (or lack of) for quality equipment just
doesn't pay the rent anymore. Even manufacturers of decent speakers are
introducing lower performance, lower priced models of their equipment to
be carried by places like Best Buy. It's too bad because people still
spend a considerable amount of money for Best Buy's versions of Klipsch
or Martin Logan thinking they are getting high end speakers. For a small
amount more they could get the real thing.

Eisboch


Agree on Circuit City being crap. As to high end stores, some are
probably better than others. We have one in Livermore. When I was going
to put in a decent home theater system, went to them for a bid. They
listened to what I wanted, and then just ignored it. The first bid was
$10,000. About $8k above what I said my budget was. This did not include
a TV, just the speakers and amp/ receiver. Do not know if they are around
anymore either. Just a more expensive Circuit City. No one listening.

Wow...your bugdet of $2K demnded a tv also?
Big spender!



Learn to read, and spell, dummy.

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On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 19:44:12 -0500, hk wrote:

BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
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John H wrote:
On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 08:40:10 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:

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I wish someone could explain the satisfaction Harry finds
in the fact that
companies are going out of business.

Is this good for liberals somehow? Circuit City had
employees who had jobs,
even if those folks did nothing. Is it in the best
interest of liberals
that the unemployed numbers grow larger?

I'm missing something somewhere.
Some companies deserve to go out of business due to the
lack of quality of their service, products or internal
culture.

In the case of Circuit City, it was on the edge anyway.
The economic crisis and retail downturn was simply the
straw that broke the camel's back.

Eisboch
Agreed. Circuit City just happened to be the company 'du
jour'. Harry, or
other liberals, continuously post articles of companies
losing money or
going out of business. And then make gleeful 'I told you so'
comments.
That's what I can't understand. What is there about
companies going out of business that brings joy to the
heart of a liberal?

Is it just simply 'anti-corporation'?
It really baffles me why you would cheer a corporation going
bankrupt and putting 30,000 people on the unemployment line.
The people who suffer the most are the 30,000 people on the
unemployment line not the executives of the company.
The vast majority of CC's employees got paid for not doing
what the public expected in that capacity, best described as
consultation-based sales. Do you think people who don't do
their job should get paid for it?
If you do what your boss expects you to do then you have earned
your pay. If my boss wants me to sit in the corner and keep my
mouth shut I can do it or quit. Your opinion of whether I am
doing my job is irrelevant.

You just said customers' opinions don't matter. What reality are
you living in? The customers voted and Circuit City is gone.

What type of business are you in?
No, I did not say customers' opinions don't matter.

My boss determines whether I get paid or terminated. If do what
my boss tells me to do I get paid and I don't do what my boss
tells me to do I get terminated.

Your opinion of my work as a co-worker, peer of my manager or
someone else in my company doesn't really matter to me as long as
I am doing what my boss tells me to do.

You as a customer can come into any business and complain as much
as you want. But, if I am doing what my boss tells me to do I
will still get paid. If my boss wants me to do something
differently he will tell me to do it differently.

Your opinion about how a business is run is just that an opinion.
When you have successfully run a national retail chain for more
than 70 years then I will listen to your thoughts on manager and
employee relations.

So...if your 'boss' told you to ship a defective product that
might cause injury or death you'd do it...to hell with the
customer eh?

That is an ethical decision.


Why would an ethical question trouble you?

We know ethical questions don't trouble you.


That's absurd. There are many ethical questions that trouble me. I
can't think of one that might trouble you. You are after all the
epitome of the "I've got mine, **** you" Republican mindset.


What is the ethical question you believe might trouble me?


All of them.

What, are you Sarah Palin now?

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Don White wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message
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"Calif Bill" wrote in message
m...
"Eisboch" wrote in message
...
"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...

iPods are having an effect, but the bigger issue, I think, is lack of
imagination and just plain balls in retailing. That's why this retailer
keeps growing every year:

http://www.rowephoto.com/index.html

Mid to high quality audio, full service, well-trained staff with
outrageous product knowledge. Began as a photo store 110 years ago.
Added audio & video in the mid-1980s. The stores are always busy. In a
sense, the owner built the business by responding to the big
discounters with "So what?" Wegmans (grocery chain) does the same
thing.

Hopefully they will stay around because they are diversified. There
used to be a couple of decent high-end audio shops around my area but
they have all folded. The demand (or lack of) for quality equipment
just doesn't pay the rent anymore. Even manufacturers of decent
speakers are introducing lower performance, lower priced models of their
equipment to be carried by places like Best Buy. It's too bad because
people still spend a considerable amount of money for Best Buy's
versions of Klipsch or Martin Logan thinking they are getting high end
speakers. For a small amount more they could get the real thing.

Eisboch


Agree on Circuit City being crap. As to high end stores, some are
probably better than others. We have one in Livermore. When I was going
to put in a decent home theater system, went to them for a bid. They
listened to what I wanted, and then just ignored it. The first bid was
$10,000. About $8k above what I said my budget was. This did not
include a TV, just the speakers and amp/ receiver. Do not know if they
are around anymore either. Just a more expensive Circuit City. No one
listening.
Wow...your *bugdet* of $2K *demnded* a tv also?
Big spender!

Yikes... Sunday morning...
should be *budget* and *demanded*



Should have refrained from posting, dumbass.

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Eisboch wrote:

"Don White" wrote in message
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Yikes... Sunday morning...
should be *budget* and *demanded*


Check your watch.

It's Saturday.

Eisboch

He's just dumb. Really dumb.

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Don White wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"Don White" wrote in message
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Yikes... Sunday morning...
should be *budget* and *demanded*

Check your watch.

It's Saturday.

Eisboch

mmmm.. hee hee...I'd better get a job or something... I'm losing contact
with reality.
My Swiss Army watch isn't much help...it thinks today is the 16th.
The analog type watch gets mixed up between 30 and 31 day months not to
mention a short month like February.



You have to rely on your POS watch to tell you what day it is? You have
more problems than I thought, dummy (hee hee).

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John H wrote:
On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 11:02:48 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:

"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"Don White" wrote in message
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Yikes... Sunday morning...
should be *budget* and *demanded*

Check your watch.

It's Saturday.

Eisboch
mmmm.. hee hee...I'd better get a job or something... I'm losing contact
with reality.
My Swiss Army watch isn't much help...it thinks today is the 16th.
The analog type watch gets mixed up between 30 and 31 day months not to
mention a short month like February.


I'll bet you're supposed to roll over an extra day at the end of a 30 day
month. Hell, if it's the watch, what happened at the end of February? March
must have been a mess.

He doesn't even know what day of the week it is. That has zero to do
with the date.

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Don White wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message
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John H wrote:
On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 08:40:10 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:

"John H" wrote in message
...

I wish someone could explain the satisfaction Harry finds in the
fact that
companies are going out of business.

Is this good for liberals somehow? Circuit City had employees who
had jobs,
even if those folks did nothing. Is it in the best interest of
liberals
that the unemployed numbers grow larger?

I'm missing something somewhere.
Some companies deserve to go out of business due to the lack of
quality of their service, products or internal culture.

In the case of Circuit City, it was on the edge anyway. The
economic crisis and retail downturn was simply the straw that broke
the camel's back.

Eisboch
Agreed. Circuit City just happened to be the company 'du jour'.
Harry, or
other liberals, continuously post articles of companies losing money
or
going out of business. And then make gleeful 'I told you so'
comments.
That's what I can't understand. What is there about companies going
out of business that brings joy to the
heart of a liberal?

Is it just simply 'anti-corporation'?
It really baffles me why you would cheer a corporation going bankrupt
and putting 30,000 people on the unemployment line. The people who
suffer the most are the 30,000 people on the unemployment line not the
executives of the company.
The vast majority of CC's employees got paid for not doing what the
public expected in that capacity, best described as consultation-based
sales. Do you think people who don't do their job should get paid for
it?
If you do what your boss expects you to do then you have earned your
pay. If my boss wants me to sit in the corner and keep my mouth shut I
can do it or quit. Your opinion of whether I am doing my job is
irrelevant.

You just said customers' opinions don't matter. What reality are you
living in? The customers voted and Circuit City is gone.

What type of business are you in?
No, I did not say customers' opinions don't matter.

My boss determines whether I get paid or terminated. If do what my boss
tells me to do I get paid and I don't do what my boss tells me to do I get
terminated.

Your opinion of my work as a co-worker, peer of my manager or someone else
in my company doesn't really matter to me as long as I am doing what my
boss tells me to do.

You as a customer can come into any business and complain as much as you
want. But, if I am doing what my boss tells me to do I will still get
paid. If my boss wants me to do something differently he will tell me to
do it differently.

Your opinion about how a business is run is just that an opinion. When you
have successfully run a national retail chain for more than 70 years then
I will listen to your thoughts on manager and employee relations.

So...if your 'boss' told you to ship a defective product that might cause
injury or death you'd do it...to hell with the customer eh?



That's just stupid and as expected from the poster.

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On Jan 17, 8:43*pm, D K wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 17, 11:51 am, wrote:
On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 08:02:23 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:

High sample rates (320kbps) certainly makes them better but the files get
bigger. * Wav files sound best because there's no compression, but the files
are huge. *People aren't into quality, they are into quantity, so they pack
their iPods and mp3 players with low quality, low sample rate files. *I just
can't get into that. *Despite what some claim, I can (and so can my wife)
distinguish the difference of a high quality CD PCM track and a high sample
rate conversion of it to mp3.
You can't replace what isn't there. *But, with Audacity you can add some
depth to get rid of the coffee can sound.
As discussed many times before, it all depends on what you are listening to
them on. *An iPod plugged into a docking station or a non-revealing audio
system sounds ok for background music.
I have been migrating to the biggest sample rate I can get. "Huge" is
a relative thing when you can get a 2 gig SD card for $10. That is one
reason why I like my $30 Sansa better than an Ipod. It has an SD slot.
That is the cassette of the 21st century. Even with WAVs you can get a
couple hundred on a card and more like 400-500 MP3s.

Yup, I have a sansa and I use the biggest files I can, I have a couple
mini 2 gig chips I can put in. My kid can't do that with her Ipod... I
also have FM for those feeling lucky days...

I have a 30GB ZEN for the same reason. *Screw Apple.- Hide quoted text -

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Yeah, I don't need to impress anyone like our resident IPod hero. Two
gig is more than enough for days of listening time while working..;)