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I'll give him four years -he won't get reelected...
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I'll give him four years -he won't get reelected...
"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in message ... http://abcnews.go.com/video/playerIndex?id=6617979 Oh is he giong to learn a lesson... Just think. Using Harry and Vic's logic, Obama's legacy will be that he presided over the worst economic recession in the history of the USA. There's probably also a 50/50 chance of a shooting war with Iran. Eisboch |
I'll give him four years -he won't get reelected...
Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
http://abcnews.go.com/video/playerIndex?id=6617979 Oh is he giong to learn a lesson... It is Carter II filled with Clinton retreads. Obama has gone from a Hope and Change message in his campaign to a everybody is going to have to suffer in order to make it better message. He now sounds like the communist party leaders telling everyone that the workers paradise is just around the corner and there is just a little bit more suffering that you have to endure. Nobody wants to hear that let alone live through it. Obama is in way over his head. |
I'll give him four years -he won't get reelected...
Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
http://abcnews.go.com/video/playerIndex?id=6617979 Oh is he giong to learn a lesson... You predicted he wouldn't get elected. Meanwhile, the GOP is going to move farther to the right and ensure it loses the 2012 election, too. |
I'll give him four years -he won't get reelected...
Eisboch wrote:
"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in message ... http://abcnews.go.com/video/playerIndex?id=6617979 Oh is he giong to learn a lesson... Just think. Using Harry and Vic's logic, Obama's legacy will be that he presided over the worst economic recession in the history of the USA. There's probably also a 50/50 chance of a shooting war with Iran. Eisboch At the moment, both situations he is inheriting from the worst president in at least the last 80 years, and perhaps the worst ever. |
I'll give him four years -he won't get reelected...
BAR wrote:
Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: http://abcnews.go.com/video/playerIndex?id=6617979 Oh is he giong to learn a lesson... It is Carter II filled with Clinton retreads. Obama has gone from a Hope and Change message in his campaign to a everybody is going to have to suffer in order to make it better message. He now sounds like the communist party leaders telling everyone that the workers paradise is just around the corner and there is just a little bit more suffering that you have to endure. Nobody wants to hear that let alone live through it. Obama is in way over his head. If you were cleaning out porti-potties, you'd be in over yours. |
I'll give him four years -he won't get reelected...
On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 15:19:40 -0500, BAR wrote:
Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: http://abcnews.go.com/video/playerIndex?id=6617979 Oh is he giong to learn a lesson... It is Carter II filled with Clinton retreads. Obama has gone from a Hope and Change message in his campaign to a everybody is going to have to suffer in order to make it better message. He now sounds like the communist party leaders telling everyone that the workers paradise is just around the corner and there is just a little bit more suffering that you have to endure. Nobody wants to hear that let alone live through it. Obama is in way over his head. WAY over his head. He has no concept of wht he's doing - it's all an intellectual exercise -just like Carter. The self-implosion is going to be interesting to watch. -- "I have tried to know absolutely nothing about a great many things, and I have succeeded fairly well." Robert Benchley |
I'll give him four years -he won't get reelected...
On Jan 11, 4:00*pm, hk wrote:
BAR wrote: Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: http://abcnews.go.com/video/playerIndex?id=6617979 Oh is he giong to learn a lesson... It is Carter II filled with Clinton retreads. Obama has gone from a Hope and Change message in his campaign to a everybody is going to have to suffer in order to make it better message.. *He now sounds like the communist party leaders telling everyone that the workers paradise is just around the corner and there is just a little bit more suffering that you have to endure. Nobody wants to hear that let alone live through it. Obama is in way over his head. If you were cleaning out porti-potties, you'd be in over yours.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - He is an empty suit. He has no clue, and never did... It will be fun to watch him slide into the background of the new Clinton administration. He has never run anything, he is a racist, this ought to be fun... |
I'll give him four years -he won't get reelected...
On Jan 11, 4:00*pm, hk wrote:
BAR wrote: Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: http://abcnews.go.com/video/playerIndex?id=6617979 Oh is he giong to learn a lesson... It is Carter II filled with Clinton retreads. Obama has gone from a Hope and Change message in his campaign to a everybody is going to have to suffer in order to make it better message.. *He now sounds like the communist party leaders telling everyone that the workers paradise is just around the corner and there is just a little bit more suffering that you have to endure. Nobody wants to hear that let alone live through it. Obama is in way over his head. If you were cleaning out porti-potties, you'd be in over yours.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - He, like you, is not qualified to clean porta-potties, it just amazes me how dems were so easily shamed into electing him... Of course, ACORN had a lot to do with it too. Seems Obama is surrounded with crims... |
I'll give him four years -he won't get reelected...
On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 15:14:12 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote: "Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in message ... http://abcnews.go.com/video/playerIndex?id=6617979 Oh is he giong to learn a lesson... Just think. Using Harry and Vic's logic, Obama's legacy will be that he presided over the worst economic recession in the history of the USA. The Left is already going berzerk with his refusal to commit to closing Gitmo, not pulling troops out of Iraq and the probable collapse of his pledge get rid of the "Bush" tax cuts. Even more amusing is his own tax cut proposal. He's WAY out of his league with Congress too - it's going to be fun to watch. There's probably also a 50/50 chance of a shooting war with Iran. Yep. -- "Never fight an inanimate object." P.J. O'Rourke |
I'll give him four years -he won't get reelected...
On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 15:14:12 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote: There's probably also a 50/50 chance of a shooting war with Iran. I wonder how he's going to explain that to the Obamabots. |
I'll give him four years -he won't get reelected...
"hk" wrote in message m... Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: http://abcnews.go.com/video/playerIndex?id=6617979 Oh is he giong to learn a lesson... You predicted he wouldn't get elected. Meanwhile, the GOP is going to move farther to the right and ensure it loses the 2012 election, too. Won't matter. CNN has a pretty gloomy documentary on right now. Not a pretty picture. I am starting to change my mind. We may be history. Eisboch |
I'll give him four years -he won't get reelected...
"hk" wrote in message m... Eisboch wrote: "Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in message ... http://abcnews.go.com/video/playerIndex?id=6617979 Oh is he giong to learn a lesson... Just think. Using Harry and Vic's logic, Obama's legacy will be that he presided over the worst economic recession in the history of the USA. There's probably also a 50/50 chance of a shooting war with Iran. Eisboch At the moment, both situations he is inheriting from the worst president in at least the last 80 years, and perhaps the worst ever. I know. But on Jan 21 we can blame it all on Obama according to your logic. Seriously, we are in bad shape. Not sure there is a way to recover. I need to think about this some more. Eisboch |
I'll give him four years -he won't get reelected...
"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in message ... On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 15:14:12 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: "Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in message ... http://abcnews.go.com/video/playerIndex?id=6617979 Oh is he giong to learn a lesson... Just think. Using Harry and Vic's logic, Obama's legacy will be that he presided over the worst economic recession in the history of the USA. The Left is already going berzerk with his refusal to commit to closing Gitmo, not pulling troops out of Iraq and the probable collapse of his pledge get rid of the "Bush" tax cuts. Even more amusing is his own tax cut proposal. He's WAY out of his league with Congress too - it's going to be fun to watch. There's probably also a 50/50 chance of a shooting war with Iran. Yep. Watching the CNN thing right now. It puts things in perspective. And, although he contributed in a major way, it's not all Bush's fault. We've been sliding towards this situation for many, many years. One guy (didn't catch who it was) threw political correctness to the wind and pointed the finger of blame directly on .... us. People. His point was that we are a spoiled rotten society that wants things now but don't want to pay for them. It's been going on for many, many presidential administrations. And, for those that are Clinton admirers and like to point at his administration's "surplus", it's hogwash. The surplus was an artificially created number as I have pointed out before. Eisboch |
I'll give him four years -he won't get reelected...
On Jan 11, 2:59*pm, hk wrote:
Eisboch wrote: "Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in messagenews:gvhkm4pk9keadf19ct0g6d3ob3hp88hsn1@4ax .com... http://abcnews.go.com/video/playerIndex?id=6617979 Oh is he giong to learn a lesson... Just think. *Using Harry and Vic's logic, Obama's legacy will be that he presided over the worst economic recession in the history of the USA. There's probably also a 50/50 chance of a shooting war with Iran. Eisboch At the moment, both situations he is inheriting from the worst president in at least the last 80 years, and perhaps the worst ever. But! he's promised to fix it and no one will have to worry about gas in their cars or making their mortgange. Evidently that's what he promised the gal on Youtube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P36x8rTb3jI |
I'll give him four years -he won't get reelected...
"Eisboch" wrote in message ... "hk" wrote in message m... Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: http://abcnews.go.com/video/playerIndex?id=6617979 Oh is he giong to learn a lesson... You predicted he wouldn't get elected. Meanwhile, the GOP is going to move farther to the right and ensure it loses the 2012 election, too. Won't matter. CNN has a pretty gloomy documentary on right now. Not a pretty picture. I am starting to change my mind. We may be history. Eisboch I just watched the tail end of that program. Good Lord what a mess. Then you have the jackasses like Waylon who are worried about my provinces' productivity...................................... . I believe that Ali guy said every American owes $ 184K. That may not be a big deal to a number of posters here...but look at JohnHs' share of that John + wife + 2 kids + 7 grandkids = 11 x 184k = over $2 mil (assuming his kids would need help paying their share) The panel said taxes would have to be doubled ( I ever understood why you guys can deduct mortgage payments from your income tax) I think the easy ride is over for Americans. Maybe we can get some of our doctors back who flew stateside to cash in on the high salary/cheap tax situation. |
I'll give him four years -he won't get reelected...
On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 15:14:12 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote: "Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in message ... http://abcnews.go.com/video/playerIndex?id=6617979 Oh is he giong to learn a lesson... Just think. Using Harry and Vic's logic, Obama's legacy will be that he presided over the worst economic recession in the history of the USA. Logic? Politics isn't logic. Don't know why you lump *me* with Harry. Not logical. I'm not the one that engages him in "logical" conversations, as you tend to do. On that score I recommend you heed Einstein's definition of "insanity." (-: Anyway, since I'm a retired computer systems analyst, I know a bit about logic. Not classical, mind you - always found that pretty dry. But in computers, just as in politics, it is often the human interface that determines what is "logical." I don't recall even mentioning "legacy" recently, but I'm guessing you are recalling my comments about being laid off after Reagan took office. That's just a personal view. I don't worship anybody but my wife, because that works real good. Ronald Reagan, Barrack Obama, Sean Hannity and Rachel Maddow are invited to kiss my ass. I strive to be fair and balanced. "Legacy" in political context it's a historical looks backwards. Some might argue that Barrack Obama's presidency is part of Ronald Reagans legacy. They would use "logic" to make that argument. Cause/effect, etc. I won't/can't go there. Everybody knows what Obama is inheriting, and if he leaves us in better shape then when he came in, he'll be a winner. Historians will write about it. Whatever he does that makes us stronger 20-30 years from now will receive praise. Whatever makes us weaker will receive condemnation. All the usual 20/20 hindsight, and even then historians will still be grinding political axes. I was fine before Reagan came in and soon became part of largest jobless mass since the Great Depression. I didn't blame Jimmy Carter or Jerry Ford or Richard Nixon for that. I never lost a job with them in office. Ronald Reagan was the prez who presided over the worst unemployment since the Great Depression, or any time after. Obama's first mission is to not beat Reagan there. Those who lose their jobs under Barrack Obama won't blame GWB They will blame Barrack Obama. They won't go looking for the "logical" reasons they can't find work. I don't find that a difficult concept to understand. The big thing BO has going for him is "the times," which also have nothing to do with logic. Remember, money grows on trees now. I can see unemployment benefits being extended far out, and all kinds of "aid" to the unemployed. In Reagan's time he could get away with just telling you to pound sand. Which is what he did. There's probably also a 50/50 chance of a shooting war with Iran. Reminds me of when I asked a pal if he was going to do something. He said "Maybe I might." At least you left yourself an out. Tom wasn't so cagey when he told us that McCain would be the next POTUS. Predictions are best left to Carnack the Magnificent, not the Overlord of Whatever. --Vic |
I'll give him four years -he won't get reelected...
On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 16:43:09 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote: "hk" wrote in message om... Eisboch wrote: "Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in message ... http://abcnews.go.com/video/playerIndex?id=6617979 Oh is he giong to learn a lesson... Just think. Using Harry and Vic's logic, Obama's legacy will be that he presided over the worst economic recession in the history of the USA. There's probably also a 50/50 chance of a shooting war with Iran. Eisboch At the moment, both situations he is inheriting from the worst president in at least the last 80 years, and perhaps the worst ever. I know. But on Jan 21 we can blame it all on Obama according to your logic. Seriously, we are in bad shape. Not sure there is a way to recover. I need to think about this some more. Do that and get back to me. I'm going to make a cup of coffee. Should be enough time for you to work it out. --Vic |
I'll give him four years -he won't get reelected...
"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in message ... http://abcnews.go.com/video/playerIndex?id=6617979 Oh is he giong to learn a lesson... Typical leftist-lib-dem Promise a lot and appologise later. Makes me wonder, did he think this is spend to nirvana was going to work or a ploy to get elected knowing it was just to appease the masses for votes? Will be watching Obama real close. You can't spend your way out of debt, just makes it worse. |
I'll give him four years -he won't get reelected...
"hk" wrote in message m... Eisboch wrote: "Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in message ... http://abcnews.go.com/video/playerIndex?id=6617979 Oh is he giong to learn a lesson... Just think. Using Harry and Vic's logic, Obama's legacy will be that he presided over the worst economic recession in the history of the USA. There's probably also a 50/50 chance of a shooting war with Iran. Eisboch At the moment, both situations he is inheriting from the worst president in at least the last 80 years, and perhaps the worst ever. Not like he didn't have some help from Democratic congress with the keys to the bank. Right? |
I'll give him four years -he won't get reelected...
On Jan 11, 6:33*pm, "Canuck57" wrote:
"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in messagenews:gvhkm4pk9keadf19ct0g6d3ob3hp88hsn1@4ax .com... http://abcnews.go.com/video/playerIndex?id=6617979 Oh is he giong to learn a lesson... Typical leftist-lib-dem Promise a lot and appologise later. *Makes me wonder, did he think this is spend to nirvana was going to work or a ploy to get elected knowing it was just to appease the masses for votes? This is what they do. Everyone knew it too, that't the funny part.. I wonder if he will make as much as Billary did on the fake health care reform? Will be watching Obama real close. *You can't spend your way out of debt, just makes it worse. He never intended to do it in the first place, and even if he did, he has no say, it's Billary and her crew running things again... |
I'll give him four years -he won't get reelected...
On Jan 11, 6:43*pm, wrote:
On Jan 11, 6:33*pm, "Canuck57" wrote: "Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in messagenews:gvhkm4pk9keadf19ct0g6d3ob3hp88hsn1@4ax .com... http://abcnews.go.com/video/playerIndex?id=6617979 Oh is he giong to learn a lesson... Typical leftist-lib-dem Promise a lot and appologise later. *Makes me wonder, did he think this is spend to nirvana was going to work or a ploy to get elected knowing it was just to appease the masses for votes? This is what they do. Everyone knew it too, that't the funny part.. I wonder if he will make as much as Billary did on the fake health care reform? Will be watching Obama real close. *You can't spend your way out of debt, just makes it worse. He never intended to do it in the first place, and even if he did, he has no say, it's Billary and her crew running things again... Which scam made more, Billary and health care and pardons, or Ozone Al and Global Taxing.. hummmmmmm |
I'll give him four years -he won't get reelected...
"Eisboch" wrote in message ... "Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in message ... On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 15:14:12 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: "Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in message ... http://abcnews.go.com/video/playerIndex?id=6617979 Oh is he giong to learn a lesson... Just think. Using Harry and Vic's logic, Obama's legacy will be that he presided over the worst economic recession in the history of the USA. The Left is already going berzerk with his refusal to commit to closing Gitmo, not pulling troops out of Iraq and the probable collapse of his pledge get rid of the "Bush" tax cuts. Even more amusing is his own tax cut proposal. He's WAY out of his league with Congress too - it's going to be fun to watch. There's probably also a 50/50 chance of a shooting war with Iran. Yep. Watching the CNN thing right now. It puts things in perspective. And, although he contributed in a major way, it's not all Bush's fault. We've been sliding towards this situation for many, many years. One guy (didn't catch who it was) threw political correctness to the wind and pointed the finger of blame directly on .... us. People. His point was that we are a spoiled rotten society that wants things now but don't want to pay for them. It's been going on for many, many presidential administrations. And, for those that are Clinton admirers and like to point at his administration's "surplus", it's hogwash. The surplus was an artificially created number as I have pointed out before. Eisboch Quite correct. Not the dems or reps stemed the debt/deficit and trade issues. Not one. People didn't really vote for it to be any different either thinking debt/deficit just goes away with no pain. And not one leader in any house or administration has made tangible moves to balanced budget, balanced Fed/currency management, balanced trade -- oh, lots of hot air, not one ounce of effort. The credit card generation just got a wake up call, are they going to be mad as hell to learn Obama isn't going to pay their mortgages on homes and cars.... no more credit, cash please... Oh, no cash - no service. Funny though how congress and Bush rigged that Bank, GM/Chrylser bailouts. That $700B or more of bailout is going to hurt bad down the road, as it wasn't borrowed, it was printed (created). I saw some Once we are into this for awhile, perhaps then we can put the debt/spend freeks in their own class, right next to the poor. And try a more sane approach to the issue. Going to be a long depression at the rate we are going. Government is now running on money creation, doubled since September. http://dailyreckoning.com/rpt/fiathistoryWP.html |
I'll give him four years -he won't get reelected...
"hk" wrote in message m... Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: http://abcnews.go.com/video/playerIndex?id=6617979 Oh is he giong to learn a lesson... You predicted he wouldn't get elected. Meanwhile, the GOP is going to move farther to the right and ensure it loses the 2012 election, too. I think we had too much faith in the public. |
I'll give him four years -he won't get reelected...
Canuck57 wrote:
"hk" wrote in message m... Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: http://abcnews.go.com/video/playerIndex?id=6617979 Oh is he giong to learn a lesson... You predicted he wouldn't get elected. Meanwhile, the GOP is going to move farther to the right and ensure it loses the 2012 election, too. I think we had too much faith in the public. No, the public awakened from its stupor and threw the Republi-trash out. |
I'll give him four years -he won't get reelected...
"Eisboch" wrote in message ... "hk" wrote in message m... Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: http://abcnews.go.com/video/playerIndex?id=6617979 Oh is he giong to learn a lesson... You predicted he wouldn't get elected. Meanwhile, the GOP is going to move farther to the right and ensure it loses the 2012 election, too. Won't matter. CNN has a pretty gloomy documentary on right now. Not a pretty picture. I am starting to change my mind. We may be history. Eisboch I wouldn't say history as the end, but making history yes. But certianly rough long term 1929 style depression in in front of us. Just like 1929, the credit/debt spend out of debt junkies are at the wheel making this worse and going to teach a whole generation of people a needed lesson on debt. First and formost, pay your debts. Second, route out corruption. Who knows, it might even get worse than 1929. Seriously, the currency in 1929 was more stable, it isn't today. Welcome to the new economy. Oh, we might see a mini recovery, but I suspect this new paradym is here to stay. It will be 10+ years before the DOW hits 12,000 in inflation adjusted dollars. Some of might not even live that long. For certain we will see 12,000 but it will be inflation driven this time. |
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Logic? Politics isn't logic. Don't know why you lump *me* with
Harry. Not logical. I'm not the one that engages him in "logical" conversations, as you tend to do. On that score I recommend you heed Einstein's definition of "insanity." (-: Anyway, since I'm a retired computer systems analyst, I know a bit about logic. And yet the concept of word-wrap and the proper use of the Enter key on your keyboard completely eludes you. |
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hk wrote:
Eisboch wrote: "Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in message ... http://abcnews.go.com/video/playerIndex?id=6617979 Oh is he giong to learn a lesson... Just think. Using Harry and Vic's logic, Obama's legacy will be that he presided over the worst economic recession in the history of the USA. There's probably also a 50/50 chance of a shooting war with Iran. Eisboch At the moment, both situations he is inheriting from the worst president in at least the last 80 years, and perhaps the worst ever. Once Obama takes the oath of office and the unemployment numbers rise they are his unemployment numbers because they occurred on his watch. Once the debt rises it is Obama's recession. You can't changes the rules because your guy is sitting behind the big desk. |
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hk wrote:
BAR wrote: Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: http://abcnews.go.com/video/playerIndex?id=6617979 Oh is he giong to learn a lesson... It is Carter II filled with Clinton retreads. Obama has gone from a Hope and Change message in his campaign to a everybody is going to have to suffer in order to make it better message. He now sounds like the communist party leaders telling everyone that the workers paradise is just around the corner and there is just a little bit more suffering that you have to endure. Nobody wants to hear that let alone live through it. Obama is in way over his head. If you were cleaning out porti-potties, you'd be in over yours. Luckily I have achieved quite a bit more in life, disproving all of your misguided theories. |
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Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 15:14:12 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: "Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in message ... http://abcnews.go.com/video/playerIndex?id=6617979 Oh is he giong to learn a lesson... Just think. Using Harry and Vic's logic, Obama's legacy will be that he presided over the worst economic recession in the history of the USA. The Left is already going berzerk with his refusal to commit to closing Gitmo, not pulling troops out of Iraq and the probable collapse of his pledge get rid of the "Bush" tax cuts. Even more amusing is his own tax cut proposal. He's WAY out of his league with Congress too - it's going to be fun to watch. You have both Pelosi and Reid who each think they are running the country. Obama never should have gone to meet with Pelosi or with Reid at the Capital. He should have made a big show of inviting them to come to him and having lunch with him at his Hotel or at Blair House when he gets there on the 15th. Obama is going to bet subservient to Congress for the rest of his term bending to the will of Pelosi and Reid. There's probably also a 50/50 chance of a shooting war with Iran. Yep. -- "Never fight an inanimate object." P.J. O'Rourke |
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On Jan 11, 8:06*pm, BAR wrote:
hk wrote: Eisboch wrote: "Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in messagenews:gvhkm4pk9keadf19ct0g6d3ob3hp88hsn1@4ax .com... http://abcnews.go.com/video/playerIndex?id=6617979 Oh is he giong to learn a lesson... Just think. *Using Harry and Vic's logic, Obama's legacy will be that he presided over the worst economic recession in the history of the USA. There's probably also a 50/50 chance of a shooting war with Iran. Eisboch At the moment, both situations he is inheriting from the worst president in at least the last 80 years, and perhaps the worst ever. Once Obama takes the oath of office and the unemployment numbers rise they are his unemployment numbers because they occurred on his watch. Once the debt rises it is Obama's recession. You can't changes the rules because your guy is sitting behind the big desk.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - He can and he will, but only for him luckily.. He has not the integerity to understand or even care, beyond his own selfish ideology... |
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Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message m... Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: http://abcnews.go.com/video/playerIndex?id=6617979 Oh is he giong to learn a lesson... You predicted he wouldn't get elected. Meanwhile, the GOP is going to move farther to the right and ensure it loses the 2012 election, too. Won't matter. CNN has a pretty gloomy documentary on right now. Not a pretty picture. I am starting to change my mind. We may be history. We are an experiment in democracy. What happens when the people in a democracy find out they can vote themselves booty, a piece of the treasury, their piece of the pie? When the citizens exist to serve the government, the country has lost its way. |
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Boater wrote:
Canuck57 wrote: "hk" wrote in message m... Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: http://abcnews.go.com/video/playerIndex?id=6617979 Oh is he giong to learn a lesson... You predicted he wouldn't get elected. Meanwhile, the GOP is going to move farther to the right and ensure it loses the 2012 election, too. I think we had too much faith in the public. No, the public awakened from its stupor and threw the Republi-trash out. Do you have to be so childish all of the time? Can't you communicate on on an adult level? |
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Don White wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message ... "hk" wrote in message m... Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: http://abcnews.go.com/video/playerIndex?id=6617979 Oh is he giong to learn a lesson... You predicted he wouldn't get elected. Meanwhile, the GOP is going to move farther to the right and ensure it loses the 2012 election, too. Won't matter. CNN has a pretty gloomy documentary on right now. Not a pretty picture. I am starting to change my mind. We may be history. Eisboch I just watched the tail end of that program. Good Lord what a mess. Then you have the jackasses like Waylon who are worried about my provinces' productivity...................................... . I believe that Ali guy said every American owes $ 184K. That may not be a big deal to a number of posters here...but look at JohnHs' share of that John + wife + 2 kids + 7 grandkids = 11 x 184k = over $2 mil (assuming his kids would need help paying their share) The panel said taxes would have to be doubled ( I ever understood why you guys can deduct mortgage payments from your income tax) I think the easy ride is over for Americans. Maybe we can get some of our doctors back who flew stateside to cash in on the high salary/cheap tax situation. First, dummy, we don't deduct mortgage payments from our income tax - only the interest. Second, it is nothing but a deduction. The tax rate is far more significant. I'll pay over $85K in income taxes - not counting SS and Medicare taxes. Add to that the payroll taxes *I* pay for all of my employees and we are talking about a lot of money for the government if they spend it properly. |
I'll give him four years -he won't get reelected...
On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 18:16:40 -0400, "Don White"
wrote: "Eisboch" wrote in message m... "hk" wrote in message m... Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: http://abcnews.go.com/video/playerIndex?id=6617979 Oh is he giong to learn a lesson... You predicted he wouldn't get elected. Meanwhile, the GOP is going to move farther to the right and ensure it loses the 2012 election, too. Won't matter. CNN has a pretty gloomy documentary on right now. Not a pretty picture. I am starting to change my mind. We may be history. Eisboch I just watched the tail end of that program. Good Lord what a mess. Then you have the jackasses like Waylon who are worried about my provinces' productivity..................................... .. I believe that Ali guy said every American owes $ 184K. That may not be a big deal to a number of posters here...but look at JohnHs' share of that John + wife + 2 kids + 7 grandkids = 11 x 184k = over $2 mil (assuming his kids would need help paying their share) The panel said taxes would have to be doubled ( I ever understood why you guys can deduct mortgage payments from your income tax) I think the easy ride is over for Americans. Maybe we can get some of our doctors back who flew stateside to cash in on the high salary/cheap tax situation. WADS |
I'll give him four years -he won't get reelected...
BAR wrote:
hk wrote: Eisboch wrote: "Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in message ... http://abcnews.go.com/video/playerIndex?id=6617979 Oh is he giong to learn a lesson... Just think. Using Harry and Vic's logic, Obama's legacy will be that he presided over the worst economic recession in the history of the USA. There's probably also a 50/50 chance of a shooting war with Iran. Eisboch At the moment, both situations he is inheriting from the worst president in at least the last 80 years, and perhaps the worst ever. Once Obama takes the oath of office and the unemployment numbers rise they are his unemployment numbers because they occurred on his watch. Once the debt rises it is Obama's recession. You can't changes the rules because your guy is sitting behind the big desk. Sorry, Bozo...not even a clever try on your part. |
I'll give him four years -he won't get reelected...
On Jan 11, 7:06*pm, BAR wrote:
hk wrote: Eisboch wrote: "Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in messagenews:gvhkm4pk9keadf19ct0g6d3ob3hp88hsn1@4ax .com... http://abcnews.go.com/video/playerIndex?id=6617979 Oh is he giong to learn a lesson... Just think. *Using Harry and Vic's logic, Obama's legacy will be that he presided over the worst economic recession in the history of the USA. There's probably also a 50/50 chance of a shooting war with Iran. Eisboch At the moment, both situations he is inheriting from the worst president in at least the last 80 years, and perhaps the worst ever. Once Obama takes the oath of office and the unemployment numbers rise they are his unemployment numbers because they occurred on his watch. Once the debt rises it is Obama's recession. You can't changes the rules because your guy is sitting behind the big desk. Yes, there was plenty of "The Towers fell on Bush's watch" But it won't happen this time. It'll be reversed. http://hamous.org/images/obama.gif |
I'll give him four years -he won't get reelected...
On Jan 11, 9:47*pm, Tim wrote:
On Jan 11, 7:06*pm, BAR wrote: hk wrote: Eisboch wrote: "Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in messagenews:gvhkm4pk9keadf19ct0g6d3ob3hp88hsn1@4ax .com... http://abcnews.go.com/video/playerIndex?id=6617979 Oh is he giong to learn a lesson... Just think. *Using Harry and Vic's logic, Obama's legacy will be that he presided over the worst economic recession in the history of the USA. There's probably also a 50/50 chance of a shooting war with Iran. Eisboch At the moment, both situations he is inheriting from the worst president in at least the last 80 years, and perhaps the worst ever. Once Obama takes the oath of office and the unemployment numbers rise they are his unemployment numbers because they occurred on his watch. Once the debt rises it is Obama's recession. You can't changes the rules because your guy is sitting behind the big desk. Yes, there was plenty of "The Towers fell on Bush's watch" But it won't happen this time. It'll be reversed. http://hamous.org/images/obama.gif- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - It will be 4 years of protecting Frank, Dodd, and the rest of the crims for the collapse of the economy.. I am sure they will spend most of their time making up investigations like they have for the last two years when they should have been watching the farm... |
I'll give him four years -he won't get reelected...
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I'll give him four years -he won't get reelected...
"hk" wrote in message m... BAR wrote: Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: http://abcnews.go.com/video/playerIndex?id=6617979 Oh is he giong to learn a lesson... It is Carter II filled with Clinton retreads. Obama has gone from a Hope and Change message in his campaign to a everybody is going to have to suffer in order to make it better message. He now sounds like the communist party leaders telling everyone that the workers paradise is just around the corner and there is just a little bit more suffering that you have to endure. Nobody wants to hear that let alone live through it. Obama is in way over his head. If you were cleaning out porti-potties, you'd be in over yours. You could not do an honest job like cleaning porta potties. And some of the portable toilet companies are union. |
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