Payrolls Post Biggest Annual Decline Since 1945
 

John H wrote:
On Fri, 9 Jan 2009 22:19:48 -0400, "Don White"
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"John H" wrote in message
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On Fri, 9 Jan 2009 20:01:35 -0400, "Don White"
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Don White wrote:
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"John H" wrote in message
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That makes good sense unless your goal is for the government to run
the
corporations.
I visited China (PRC) back in 1986 when they were first
experimenting
with the concepts of foreign investments and a subtle shift towards
capitalism.

It was an amazing exposure to life under an extreme socialist
society.
(Communism)

The average Chinese factory worker had to bow to and worship his
employer who in turn worshiped his provincial mayor for the
opportunity to make a living for his family.

It was sad. And it hasn't changed.

And, it where this country is heading.

Eisboch
Every American and Canadian should support the union/labour movement.
If not for themselves, for their children & grandchildren.
\
The Chinese Government *is* the ultimate union labor establishment.
Are
you sure that's what you want?

Eisboch

Naw..they're communist...I'd lean toward socialist/labour
You are the kind of guy who wants government controlling his life from
the
cradle to the grave.


Nope...Mr Class Act. I just want to see some benefit for my heavy taxes.

Don, have you noticed that Harry has not jumped in to defend this position
of yours?

That, in itself, should tell you something.
ahhhh ...you assume Harry & I are similar to your Drone Army...where every
drone marches along in lockstep?
No military maneuvers for us.. we can and do act independently.


No, I assume even he thinks that comment just too stupid to endorse.

Actually, Don is Harry's stooge, not the other way around. It is Don's
job to say "Yah, you tell him".

Payrolls Post Biggest Annual Decline Since 1945
 

"Canuck57" wrote in message
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Unions are not about choice, be it a new worker being bullied or a
government. Take the Canadian NDP party, a union party. They offered $1
billion of tax payers money to the Bloc (Quebec party) if they got their
votes for a year or two to form a coalition coup d'etat. And as I and
other suspect, because they wanted tax payers cash for GM/Chrylser. Saved
by a quirk in the parlimentry system, but still possible.

Now that is meddling in Canadian politics. The NDP Layton should be
arrested for bribery of a MP representative.


Guess I missed that news release. Got any links?

Payrolls Post Biggest Annual Decline Since 1945
 

"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"CalifBill" wrote in message
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I do not have the answer,
but it appears our elected leaders do not either.


They don't, economists don't, nobody knows. What is being done, in the
words of Andrea Mitchell, is throwing anything and everything against the
wall and see if anything sticks.

Eisboch

The scary part is I think the recession will get much worse before turning
around. And not one of the elected are asking Obama and his team what is
the basis for his plan.

Payrolls Post Biggest Annual Decline Since 1945
 

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
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"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"CalifBill" wrote in message
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I do not have the answer,
but it appears our elected leaders do not either.


They don't, economists don't, nobody knows. What is being done, in the
words of Andrea Mitchell, is throwing anything and everything against the
wall and see if anything sticks.

Eisboch

The scary part is I think the recession will get much worse before turning
around. And not one of the elected are asking Obama and his team what is
the basis for his plan.


Some of Obama's comments lately are not exactly reassuring to the public.
He's trying to put pressure on Congress to make sure they will approve his
massive stimulus spending, but he's doing it by scaring the bejeezes out of
people. He recently made a statement to the affect that if his plan is not
approved, it may be too late to save the US. Not sure what he means by
that, but they sure aren't the words of a true Leader.

Eisboch

Payrolls Post Biggest Annual Decline Since 1945
 

On Sat, 10 Jan 2009 12:03:55 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:


"Canuck57" wrote in message
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Unions are not about choice, be it a new worker being bullied or a
government. Take the Canadian NDP party, a union party. They offered $1
billion of tax payers money to the Bloc (Quebec party) if they got their
votes for a year or two to form a coalition coup d'etat. And as I and
other suspect, because they wanted tax payers cash for GM/Chrylser. Saved
by a quirk in the parlimentry system, but still possible.

Now that is meddling in Canadian politics. The NDP Layton should be
arrested for bribery of a MP representative.


Guess I missed that news release. Got any links?


http://tinyurl.com/161

Payrolls Post Biggest Annual Decline Since 1945
 

Eisboch wrote:

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
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"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"CalifBill" wrote in message
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I do not have the answer,
but it appears our elected leaders do not either.


They don't, economists don't, nobody knows. What is being done, in
the words of Andrea Mitchell, is throwing anything and everything
against the wall and see if anything sticks.

Eisboch

The scary part is I think the recession will get much worse before
turning around. And not one of the elected are asking Obama and his
team what is the basis for his plan.


Some of Obama's comments lately are not exactly reassuring to the
public. He's trying to put pressure on Congress to make sure they will
approve his massive stimulus spending, but he's doing it by scaring the
bejeezes out of people. He recently made a statement to the affect
that if his plan is not approved, it may be too late to save the US.
Not sure what he means by that, but they sure aren't the words of a true
Leader.

I am willing to wait it out. We don't need to go deeper into debt. It is
going to be a little bit painful for some but, that's life.

Payrolls Post Biggest Annual Decline Since 1945
 

Eisboch wrote:

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
m...

"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"CalifBill" wrote in message
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I do not have the answer,
but it appears our elected leaders do not either.


They don't, economists don't, nobody knows. What is being done, in
the words of Andrea Mitchell, is throwing anything and everything
against the wall and see if anything sticks.

Eisboch

The scary part is I think the recession will get much worse before
turning around. And not one of the elected are asking Obama and his
team what is the basis for his plan.


Some of Obama's comments lately are not exactly reassuring to the
public. He's trying to put pressure on Congress to make sure they will
approve his massive stimulus spending, but he's doing it by scaring the
bejeezes out of people. He recently made a statement to the affect
that if his plan is not approved, it may be too late to save the US.
Not sure what he means by that, but they sure aren't the words of a true
Leader.

Eisboch

Obama is correct.

Payrolls Post Biggest Annual Decline Since 1945
 

hk wrote:
Eisboch wrote:

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
m...

"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"CalifBill" wrote in message
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I do not have the answer,
but it appears our elected leaders do not either.


They don't, economists don't, nobody knows. What is being done, in
the words of Andrea Mitchell, is throwing anything and everything
against the wall and see if anything sticks.

Eisboch

The scary part is I think the recession will get much worse before
turning around. And not one of the elected are asking Obama and his
team what is the basis for his plan.


Some of Obama's comments lately are not exactly reassuring to the
public. He's trying to put pressure on Congress to make sure they will
approve his massive stimulus spending, but he's doing it by scaring
the bejeezes out of people. He recently made a statement to the
affect that if his plan is not approved, it may be too late to save
the US. Not sure what he means by that, but they sure aren't the
words of a true Leader.

Eisboch

Obama is correct.

Obama is wrong. We don't need more government intervention in business.
All of these professional politicians to go get real jobs.

Payrolls Post Biggest Annual Decline Since 1945
 

BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
Eisboch wrote:

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
m...

"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"CalifBill" wrote in message
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I do not have the answer,
but it appears our elected leaders do not either.


They don't, economists don't, nobody knows. What is being done, in
the words of Andrea Mitchell, is throwing anything and everything
against the wall and see if anything sticks.

Eisboch

The scary part is I think the recession will get much worse before
turning around. And not one of the elected are asking Obama and his
team what is the basis for his plan.


Some of Obama's comments lately are not exactly reassuring to the
public. He's trying to put pressure on Congress to make sure they
will approve his massive stimulus spending, but he's doing it by
scaring the bejeezes out of people. He recently made a statement to
the affect that if his plan is not approved, it may be too late to
save the US. Not sure what he means by that, but they sure aren't
the words of a true Leader.

Eisboch

Obama is correct.

Obama is wrong. We don't need more government intervention in business.


Prove it.

Payrolls Post Biggest Annual Decline Since 1945
 

hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
Eisboch wrote:

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
m...

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"CalifBill" wrote in message
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I do not have the answer,
but it appears our elected leaders do not either.


They don't, economists don't, nobody knows. What is being done,
in the words of Andrea Mitchell, is throwing anything and
everything against the wall and see if anything sticks.

Eisboch

The scary part is I think the recession will get much worse before
turning around. And not one of the elected are asking Obama and
his team what is the basis for his plan.


Some of Obama's comments lately are not exactly reassuring to the
public. He's trying to put pressure on Congress to make sure they
will approve his massive stimulus spending, but he's doing it by
scaring the bejeezes out of people. He recently made a statement
to the affect that if his plan is not approved, it may be too late
to save the US. Not sure what he means by that, but they sure
aren't the words of a true Leader.

Eisboch

Obama is correct.

Obama is wrong. We don't need more government intervention in business.


Prove it.

The GAO. If you want spur economic growth you need to cut taxes and
encourage business to hire and spend without the threat of increased
taxes. The people need to know that they will be able to spend their own
money the way they want to spend it rather than having it confiscated
and given, "redistributed", to those who won't get off their lazy asses
and work for themselves.

Obama with his misguided idea that he is going to "save" jobs and create
jobs by government spending is comical. FDR tried it before and it
failed miserable. Private industry creates jobs and the most jobs are
created by small businesses. Reducing regulation and taxes will ensure
the greatest growth of jobs. And the repeal of that ridiculous Sarbanes
Oxley legislation is the first thing that needs to happen.

Right now everyone has their hand out waiting for big daddy government
to give them something. Doesn't anyone have any self respect and pride
anymore.