Payrolls Post Biggest Annual Decline Since 1945
 

"Vic Smith" wrote in message
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The labor unions I've been a member of didn't worship anything except
getting power for their members, and would sooner cut their employer's
throat than worship him.
Guess you don't know much about American labor unions.
And it's disgusting to call American union members Chicoms.
It is the free-trade globalists who gave the Chicoms their power.
I think the ultimate commie labor union is the WSEFU.
That would be the "Wall Street Execs ****-up Union."
That's where you'll find the cretins who push for globalism and
subservience of labor. Their minions are in the Congressional and
Executive branches of the U.S. government.
Just gave them some hundreds of billions of taxpayers money.
I have my own idea about who the commie leaders are, who are
apparatchik, and who has the dachas.
Sure as hell ain't labor unions.
BTW, while I'm ranting here, might as well tell everybody what nobody
else wants to tell them.
This country will continue its decline until we start making our own
goods again. No two ways about it.
The party is over. Wall Street's rise, and all the non-productive
"work" it has provided, is kaput. It was smoke and mirrors and a
mountain of debt buying foreign goods that enabled and sustained it.
Honest blue collar factory labor will rise again.
Whether it's unionized or not is a side issue.
If you've saved some of the money cheap overseas labor has earned for
you in buying your toys, you'll be okay.
If you've spent like a drunken sailor and dug yourself into a hole,
you're in for "an entirely new experience."
Of course - and as usual - I may be wrong.
It's happened before. (-:

--Vic

Yup...and the difference 'for now' between Canada and the US is we still
have natural resources to sell off to maintain our lifestyle. When they're
gone...........

Payrolls Post Biggest Annual Decline Since 1945
 

hk wrote:
Eisboch wrote:

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I don't think that is the way out. We need massive infusion of
capital to get the economy moving, and corporate America ain't
spending it.

Why should they? All they will do is become penalized via taxes.

Eisboch


Well, then, let them liquidate themselves so others who want to run a
business can fill the voids.

From the man who has never run a business in his entire life.

Payrolls Post Biggest Annual Decline Since 1945
 

hk wrote:
Eisboch wrote:

"hk" wrote in message
m...
Eisboch wrote:

"hk" wrote in message
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I don't think that is the way out. We need massive infusion of
capital to get the economy moving, and corporate America ain't
spending it.

Why should they? All they will do is become penalized via taxes.

Eisboch


Well, then, let them liquidate themselves so others who want to run a
business can fill the voids.


You have to be kidding. Businesses survive, employ people, provide
health plans, and grow because they can make a profit. Take that
incentive away and you get what we have now.

Eisboch


It isn't taxes that it keeping corporations from making money. It is a
crapped out economy and bad management.

It is over regulation by the government that has crapped out the economy.

Payrolls Post Biggest Annual Decline Since 1945
 

Don White wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"John H" wrote in message
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That makes good sense unless your goal is for the government to run the
corporations.
I visited China (PRC) back in 1986 when they were first experimenting with
the concepts of foreign investments and a subtle shift towards capitalism.

It was an amazing exposure to life under an extreme socialist society.
(Communism)

The average Chinese factory worker had to bow to and worship his employer
who in turn worshiped his provincial mayor for the opportunity to make a
living for his family.

It was sad. And it hasn't changed.

And, it where this country is heading.

Eisboch


Every American and Canadian should support the union/labour movement.
If not for themselves, for their children & grandchildren.

Screw that. What happed to being pro-choice.

Payrolls Post Biggest Annual Decline Since 1945
 

Eisboch wrote:

"hk" wrote in message
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Eisboch wrote:

"Don White" wrote in message
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"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"John H" wrote in message
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That makes good sense unless your goal is for the government to
run the
corporations.

I visited China (PRC) back in 1986 when they were first
experimenting with the concepts of foreign investments and a subtle
shift towards capitalism.

It was an amazing exposure to life under an extreme socialist
society. (Communism)

The average Chinese factory worker had to bow to and worship his
employer who in turn worshiped his provincial mayor for the
opportunity to make a living for his family.

It was sad. And it hasn't changed.

And, it where this country is heading.

Eisboch


Every American and Canadian should support the union/labour movement.
If not for themselves, for their children & grandchildren.
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The Chinese Government *is* the ultimate union labor establishment.
Are you sure that's what you want?

Eisboch


No it isn't.

It isn't want you want or it isn't what I said?

If the latter, you are dead wrong. It is exactly what the ultimate
structure and relationship of a controlled, "unionized" society is.

Organized labor from the politburo down to the factory floor.

Payrolls Post Biggest Annual Decline Since 1945
 

Don White wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"Don White" wrote in message
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"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"John H" wrote in message
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That makes good sense unless your goal is for the government to run the
corporations.
I visited China (PRC) back in 1986 when they were first experimenting
with the concepts of foreign investments and a subtle shift towards
capitalism.

It was an amazing exposure to life under an extreme socialist society.
(Communism)

The average Chinese factory worker had to bow to and worship his
employer who in turn worshiped his provincial mayor for the opportunity
to make a living for his family.

It was sad. And it hasn't changed.

And, it where this country is heading.

Eisboch

Every American and Canadian should support the union/labour movement.
If not for themselves, for their children & grandchildren.
\
The Chinese Government *is* the ultimate union labor establishment. Are
you sure that's what you want?

Eisboch


Naw..they're communist...I'd lean toward socialist/labour



It's all central control. The only difference is the name.

Payrolls Post Biggest Annual Decline Since 1945
 

Don White wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote in message
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Don White wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"Don White" wrote in message
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"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"John H" wrote in message
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That makes good sense unless your goal is for the government to run
the
corporations.
I visited China (PRC) back in 1986 when they were first experimenting
with the concepts of foreign investments and a subtle shift towards
capitalism.

It was an amazing exposure to life under an extreme socialist society.
(Communism)

The average Chinese factory worker had to bow to and worship his
employer who in turn worshiped his provincial mayor for the
opportunity to make a living for his family.

It was sad. And it hasn't changed.

And, it where this country is heading.

Eisboch
Every American and Canadian should support the union/labour movement.
If not for themselves, for their children & grandchildren.
\
The Chinese Government *is* the ultimate union labor establishment. Are
you sure that's what you want?

Eisboch

Naw..they're communist...I'd lean toward socialist/labour
You are the kind of guy who wants government controlling his life from the
cradle to the grave.

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Nope...Mr Class Act. I just want to see some benefit for my heavy taxes.

How about some extremely light taxes and you can give your money to
whomever you want.

Payrolls Post Biggest Annual Decline Since 1945
 

On Jan 9, 9:56*pm, BAR wrote:
Don White wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"John H" wrote in message
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That makes good sense unless your goal is for the government to run the
corporations.
I visited China (PRC) back in 1986 when they were first experimenting with
the concepts of foreign investments and a subtle shift towards capitalism.

It was an amazing exposure to life under an extreme socialist society.
(Communism)

The average Chinese factory worker had to bow to and worship his employer
who in turn worshiped his provincial mayor for the opportunity to make a
living for his family.

It was sad. * And it hasn't changed.

And, it where this country is heading.

Eisboch

Every American and Canadian should support the union/labour movement.
If not for themselves, for their children & grandchildren.

Screw that. What happed to being pro-choice.- Hide quoted text -

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These two aren't pro choice, they are simply pro abortion...

Payrolls Post Biggest Annual Decline Since 1945
 

"Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote in message
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You are the kind of guy who wants government controlling his life from the
cradle to the grave.

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How 'bout dropping the artwork? They are starting to pile up on my
keyboard.

Eisboch

Payrolls Post Biggest Annual Decline Since 1945
 

"Vic Smith" wrote in message
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On Fri, 9 Jan 2009 16:37:44 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:

The Chinese Government *is* the ultimate union labor establishment. Are
you
sure that's what you want?


The labor unions I've been a member of didn't worship anything except
getting power for their members, and would sooner cut their employer's
throat than worship him.
Guess you don't know much about American labor unions.
And it's disgusting to call American union members Chicoms.


First order, yes. Second and third order, no. It's all about power and
control by a few over many.

I agree with the rest of your rant.

Eisboch