D K wrote:
Eisboch wrote:

"Boater" wrote in message
...

Ahhhhh...You've found one of the many Norton aggravators. Really.
There are pages and pages of URLs that lead to ways to resolve
problems incurred in complete removal of Norton from a computer. I
kid you not.

I stopped using Norton some years ago because I could not get it to
update certain modules no matter what, and neither could the "tech
support" guys in Bombay.

Good luck!


Yup. That's what I've read about Norton and attempts to remove it
completely. I tried to delete it from my XP machine, but parts of it
are still there, including the window asking me if I want to install
it every time it boots. I was told by someone with more computer
smarts than I that I'd be better off just to continue refusing it's
installation prompt, which I've been doing on that computer for about
4 years now.
I suppose I could just get in the habit of doing the same thing with
this new Vista machine.

Eisboch


Try this:

Open the "Run" command.

Type "prefetch".

It will open a window with several files - delete them all (really).

At a minimum it should help your start up time if it doesn't fix the
problem.


http://www.edbott.com/weblog/archives/000743.html
There are a lot of articles about prefetch. The first one I came across
says not to delete it.
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Boater wrote:
D K wrote:
Eisboch wrote:

"Boater" wrote in message
...

Ahhhhh...You've found one of the many Norton aggravators. Really.
There are pages and pages of URLs that lead to ways to resolve
problems incurred in complete removal of Norton from a computer. I
kid you not.

I stopped using Norton some years ago because I could not get it to
update certain modules no matter what, and neither could the "tech
support" guys in Bombay.

Good luck!


Yup. That's what I've read about Norton and attempts to remove it
completely. I tried to delete it from my XP machine, but parts of it
are still there, including the window asking me if I want to install
it every time it boots. I was told by someone with more computer
smarts than I that I'd be better off just to continue refusing it's
installation prompt, which I've been doing on that computer for about
4 years now.
I suppose I could just get in the habit of doing the same thing with
this new Vista machine.

Eisboch


Try this:

Open the "Run" command.

Type "prefetch".

It will open a window with several files - delete them all (really).

At a minimum it should help your start up time if it doesn't fix the
problem.


http://www.edbott.com/weblog/archives/000743.html
There are a lot of articles about prefetch. The first one I came across
says not to delete it.
** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **


I see Reggie or one of the other assholes has "swiped" my "boater" id
here. Schittheads-uber-alles.

On Dec 31, 11:19*pm, Boater wrote:
Boater wrote:
D K wrote:
Eisboch wrote:

"Boater" wrote in message
...

Ahhhhh...You've found one of the many Norton aggravators. Really.
There are pages and pages of URLs that lead to ways to resolve
problems incurred in complete removal of Norton from a computer. I
kid you not.

I stopped using Norton some years ago because I could not get it to
update certain modules no matter what, and neither could the "tech
support" guys in Bombay.

Good luck!

Yup. *That's what I've read about Norton and attempts to remove it
completely. *I tried to delete it from my XP machine, but parts of it
are still there, including the window asking me if I want to install
it every time it boots. *I was told by someone with more computer
smarts than I that I'd be better off just to continue refusing it's
installation prompt, which I've been doing on that computer for about
4 years now.
I suppose I could just get in the habit of doing the same thing with
this new Vista machine.

Eisboch

Try this:

Open the "Run" command.

Type "prefetch".

It will open a window with several files - delete them all (really).

At a minimum it should help your start up time if it doesn't fix the
problem.

http://www.edbott.com/weblog/archives/000743.html
There are a lot of articles about prefetch. The first one I came across
says not to delete it.
** Posted fromhttp://www.teranews.com**

I see Reggie or one of the other assholes has "swiped" my "boater" id
here. Schittheads-uber-alles.- Hide quoted text -

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awwwww, poor Haweey

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"D.Duck" wrote in message
...


Where's your engineer's curiosity?

My engineer's curiosity over the years led to a simple rule.

"Leave well enough alone".

Eisboch


Turn in your Union card. 8)

On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 20:45:05 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

I see Reggie or one of the other assholes has "swiped" my "boater" id
here. Schittheads-uber-alles.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

awwwww, poor Haweey

He could always change IDs to "Bloater".

WAFA

Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 20:45:05 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

I see Reggie or one of the other assholes has "swiped" my "boater" id
here. Schittheads-uber-alles.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
awwwww, poor Haweey

He could always change IDs to "Bloater".

WAFA



W'hine! Now there's an idea for a handle... W'hine B.

On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 21:49:32 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:


"D.Duck" wrote in message
m...


Where's your engineer's curiosity?

My engineer's curiosity over the years led to a simple rule.

"Leave well enough alone".

Or the other maxim - "If it ain't broke, fix it".

On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 20:49:13 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:


"D.Duck" wrote in message
m...

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"D.Duck" wrote in message
...


You might want to try the Norton removal tool from Symantec:

http://tinyurl.com/7v555b

I haven't used it recently but in the past it was effective in removing
their bloat-ware

I assumed that you have the 2008 version, if not there are tools on the
Symantec site for other versions.

Make sure you have the FREE version of AVG. Sometimes it's hard to
locate the free version URL.



Thanks. I read it. Not sure I am ready to try it, but I bookmarked it.
I am pretty sure I found the free version of AVG. There was a leading
advertisement to
get the full up version for free also, but I read it carefully and
discovered it was one of those
"free to try" deals. The version I downloaded from:

http://www.download.com/AVG-Anti-Virus-Free-Edition/3000-2239_4-10320142.htmlwas

is the basic, "free" file. Hold on ..... it's file name is: "index.php"
Haven't installed it yet though. Been reading that there have been some
problems getting it to install. Need to research it a bit more.

Eisboch

I've installed free AVG on three Vista PCs with no problems. I think you
know to remove Norton before the AVG install.


Well, that's where I am hung up. I haven't actually installed Norton on
the new computer, but I haven't completely removed it either. It still
asks to be installed every time I reboot. I figured I'd try to learn how
to completely remove it from the computer before installing AVG. Your link
provided good information, but it's obviously not as simple as doing a
Windows "Remove Program".

I hate doing stuff like this. Every time I try to do something more
involved than a simple install or uninstall, I screw up the computer and I
am up all night trying to fix it.

You need to use a more mystical approach - be one with the program and
one with the computer.

OOOOMMMMMMMM.......

Oh - I forgot to define mystical approach.

Take it to your local geek store and have them do it for you which is
what I did with the last new computer I bought - took it to the local
nerd shop, said remove the bloatware - two hours and $50 later, presto
- gone.

OOOOOOMMMMMMMMMM......

On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 21:41:28 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:

Where's your engineer's curiosity?

Funny thing - somebody asked me that the other day.

I won't tell you what I replied - this is a family group. :)

Tom Francis wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 20:49:13 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:

"D.Duck" wrote in message
...
"Eisboch" wrote in message
...
"D.Duck" wrote in message
...

You might want to try the Norton removal tool from Symantec:

http://tinyurl.com/7v555b

I haven't used it recently but in the past it was effective in removing
their bloat-ware

I assumed that you have the 2008 version, if not there are tools on the
Symantec site for other versions.

Make sure you have the FREE version of AVG. Sometimes it's hard to
locate the free version URL.


Thanks. I read it. Not sure I am ready to try it, but I bookmarked it.
I am pretty sure I found the free version of AVG. There was a leading
advertisement to
get the full up version for free also, but I read it carefully and
discovered it was one of those
"free to try" deals. The version I downloaded from:

http://www.download.com/AVG-Anti-Virus-Free-Edition/3000-2239_4-10320142.htmlwas

is the basic, "free" file. Hold on ..... it's file name is: "index.php"
Haven't installed it yet though. Been reading that there have been some
problems getting it to install. Need to research it a bit more.

Eisboch
I've installed free AVG on three Vista PCs with no problems. I think you
know to remove Norton before the AVG install.

Well, that's where I am hung up. I haven't actually installed Norton on
the new computer, but I haven't completely removed it either. It still
asks to be installed every time I reboot. I figured I'd try to learn how
to completely remove it from the computer before installing AVG. Your link
provided good information, but it's obviously not as simple as doing a
Windows "Remove Program".

I hate doing stuff like this. Every time I try to do something more
involved than a simple install or uninstall, I screw up the computer and I
am up all night trying to fix it.

You need to use a more mystical approach - be one with the program and
one with the computer.

OOOOMMMMMMMM.......

Oh - I forgot to define mystical approach.

Take it to your local geek store and have them do it for you which is
what I did with the last new computer I bought - took it to the local
nerd shop, said remove the bloatware - two hours and $50 later, presto
- gone.

OOOOOOMMMMMMMMMM......


Another pain in the ass security suite is McAfee's. I don't use it, but
it now comes as a "free trial" download for HP Windoze Home Servers.
Some users have had a lot of trouble with it, so I didn't install the
freebie. I use something else on my server.