BAR wrote:
Richard Casady wrote:
On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 17:03:40 GMT, (Richard
Casady) wrote:

On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 12:53:54 GMT, Tom Francis
wrote:

Then again, your point is well taken - the whole point of diesels is
lots of power at low rpms.
Nonsense. The only point to Diesels is fuel economy. Were that not so,
they wouldn't even exist. They have both gasoline and steam beat in
that regard. That is what you get in exchange for cost and weight.
They make 300 RPM gas engines by the way. Caterpillar makes large,
slow turning, spark ignition engines. They mostly run on me

Software is ****ing with me.
Make that methane. [Des Moines gets 10 000 hp from the gas from the
landfill.]

I have a landfill near me that is burning off methane. The county wants
to put in a generator and use the methane to produce electricity. This
electricity would provide enough power for about 2500 homes in the area
for about 30 to 50 years. But, the freaking NIMBY's are crying about the
noise of the generator and in the same breath whining about how global
warming is going to kill us all in a few years.

I am all for the project. I live 2 miles away and I wouldn't hear the
noise of the generator.


That's because of the strip mining facility a mile away, right?

Boater wrote:
BAR wrote:
Richard Casady wrote:
On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 17:03:40 GMT, (Richard
Casady) wrote:

On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 12:53:54 GMT, Tom Francis
wrote:

Then again, your point is well taken - the whole point of diesels is
lots of power at low rpms.
Nonsense. The only point to Diesels is fuel economy. Were that not so,
they wouldn't even exist. They have both gasoline and steam beat in
that regard. That is what you get in exchange for cost and weight.
They make 300 RPM gas engines by the way. Caterpillar makes large,
slow turning, spark ignition engines. They mostly run on me

Software is ****ing with me.
Make that methane. [Des Moines gets 10 000 hp from the gas from the
landfill.]

I have a landfill near me that is burning off methane. The county
wants to put in a generator and use the methane to produce
electricity. This electricity would provide enough power for about
2500 homes in the area for about 30 to 50 years. But, the freaking
NIMBY's are crying about the noise of the generator and in the same
breath whining about how global warming is going to kill us all in a
few years.

I am all for the project. I live 2 miles away and I wouldn't hear the
noise of the generator.


That's because of the strip mining facility a mile away, right?

Yeah, a strip mine!

Boater wrote:

Tom, we have an Evinrude dealer in the marina. It's the only place I see
eTecs...one on the back of the state DNR boat, one on a center console,
and one or two in the dealer's shop. Sorry.

Come to my marina - you'll see lots of them. :-)


--
Regards,
Dave Brown
Brown's Marina Ltd
http://brownsmarina.com/

Dave Brown wrote:
Boater wrote:

Tom, we have an Evinrude dealer in the marina. It's the only place I see
eTecs...one on the back of the state DNR boat, one on a center
console, and one or two in the dealer's shop. Sorry.

Come to my marina - you'll see lots of them. :-)



Why would anyone buy a Etec when they can get the same engine Harry
Krause owns?

On Tue, 30 Dec 2008 09:52:03 -0500, Dave Brown
wrote:

Boater wrote:

Tom, we have an Evinrude dealer in the marina. It's the only place I see
eTecs...one on the back of the state DNR boat, one on a center console,
and one or two in the dealer's shop. Sorry.

Come to my marina - you'll see lots of them. :-)

SSSHHHH.....

We don't want Harry to know that there actually are people who buy
ETECs. If he finds out how much better an engine they are versus a
Yamaha, then he'll go buy one.

And I'll have to repower with something different. :)

Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
Dave Brown wrote:
Boater wrote:

Tom, we have an Evinrude dealer in the marina. It's the only place I see
eTecs...one on the back of the state DNR boat, one on a center
console, and one or two in the dealer's shop. Sorry.

Come to my marina - you'll see lots of them. :-)



Why would anyone buy a Etec when they can get the same engine Harry
Krause owns?


Why would anyone buy an eTec when they can buy a Suzuki, Honda, Yamaha,
or Merc?

Tom Francis wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2008 09:52:03 -0500, Dave Brown
wrote:

Boater wrote:

Tom, we have an Evinrude dealer in the marina. It's the only place I see
eTecs...one on the back of the state DNR boat, one on a center console,
and one or two in the dealer's shop. Sorry.
Come to my marina - you'll see lots of them. :-)

SSSHHHH.....

We don't want Harry to know that there actually are people who buy
ETECs. If he finds out how much better an engine they are versus a
Yamaha, then he'll go buy one.

And I'll have to repower with something different. :)


And the market penetration of etec in the USA is...?

On Tue, 30 Dec 2008 12:17:49 GMT, Tom Francis
wrote:

On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 13:39:18 -0500, Boater
wrote:

In the mid-Bay area, there are very few newer Evinrudes.

You know, you keep saying that, but traveling down 95 a week or so
ago, I didn't see one Yamaha hanging off the ends of boats down 95.
Saw a few Verados, an Optimax and six Evinrude ETECS, but not one
Yamaha. Most of the boats had Maryland registrations, one was
Virginia - couldn't see the others as they were on the other side of
the road.

Maybe you need to get out of a marina that only caters to Parker
owners and see the brighter world around you.

A couple years ago, and maybe you've seen it, but this has
a"well-balanced" view of the etec vs 4-stroke arguments.
http://www.oceanskiffjournal.com/Sub...ral/ETEC3.aspx
I was shocked to find that you're running a cleaner engine than those
with the filthy Yammy 4-strokes.
Never took you for a Greenie.

--Vic

Boater wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
Dave Brown wrote:
Boater wrote:

Tom, we have an Evinrude dealer in the marina. It's the only place I
see
eTecs...one on the back of the state DNR boat, one on a center
console, and one or two in the dealer's shop. Sorry.

Come to my marina - you'll see lots of them. :-)



Why would anyone buy a Etec when they can get the same engine Harry
Krause owns?


Why would anyone buy an eTec when they can buy a Suzuki, Honda, Yamaha,
or Merc?

Do prspective owners of monkey puke colored Parkerrs really have all
those choices?

On Tue, 30 Dec 2008 09:35:40 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Tue, 30 Dec 2008 12:17:49 GMT, Tom Francis
wrote:

On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 13:39:18 -0500, Boater
wrote:

In the mid-Bay area, there are very few newer Evinrudes.

You know, you keep saying that, but traveling down 95 a week or so
ago, I didn't see one Yamaha hanging off the ends of boats down 95.
Saw a few Verados, an Optimax and six Evinrude ETECS, but not one
Yamaha. Most of the boats had Maryland registrations, one was
Virginia - couldn't see the others as they were on the other side of
the road.

Maybe you need to get out of a marina that only caters to Parker
owners and see the brighter world around you.

A couple years ago, and maybe you've seen it, but this has
a"well-balanced" view of the etec vs 4-stroke arguments.
http://www.oceanskiffjournal.com/Sub...ral/ETEC3.aspx
I was shocked to find that you're running a cleaner engine than those
with the filthy Yammy 4-strokes.

It was an interesting time I'll tell you what. I was an early adopter
of the FICHT technology and while I never had a problem (why, I
couldn't say - I did have one failure, but it was unrelated to the
powerhead problem - it was something completely and totally unheard of
even with four strokes - I had a stator go bad which caused a cascade
failure through the entire electrical system including the EMM.
Bombardier paid for everything - can't beat that.)

Never took you for a Greenie.

I am nothing if not full of surprizes. :)