On Tue, 30 Dec 2008 16:12:20 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

On Dec 29, 11:03*am, (Richard Casady)
wrote:
On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 12:53:54 GMT, Tom Francis

wrote:
Then again, your point is well taken - the whole point of diesels is
lots of power at low rpms.

Nonsense. The only point to Diesels is fuel economy. Were that not so,
they wouldn't even exist. They have both gasoline and steam beat in
that regard. That is what you get in exchange for cost and weight.
They make 300 RPM gas engines by the way. Caterpillar makes large,
slow turning, spark ignition engines. They mostly run on me

Runs on YOU?

LOL!

300 RPM? How about 600 hp at 80!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxssIc4HUNM

Pfffhhhttttt.....

That's just the starter for this one:

http://people.bath.ac.uk/ccsshb/12cyl/

108,920 hp at 102 rpm

On Dec 30, 2:07*pm, (Richard Casady)
wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2008 14:26:44 GMT, Tom Francis

wrote:
And battleship gray engines. *:)

Officially, there is no such color. Battleships, pickups, and
everything between, are painted ' Haze Gray '.

Casady

Well Richard. You may be right, but there's a lot of paint companies
that label their stuff "Battleship Gray or 'grey'" And of course, tere
are a wide variety of tints with the same name.

http://www.paint-colors.net/store/pr...cat=249&page=1

On Dec 30, 6:43*pm, Tom Francis
wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2008 16:12:20 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:



On Dec 29, 11:03*am, (Richard Casady)
wrote:
On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 12:53:54 GMT, Tom Francis

wrote:
Then again, your point is well taken - the whole point of diesels is
lots of power at low rpms.

Nonsense. The only point to Diesels is fuel economy. Were that not so,
they wouldn't even exist. They have both gasoline and steam beat in
that regard. That is what you get in exchange for cost and weight.
They make 300 RPM gas engines by the way. Caterpillar makes large,
slow turning, spark ignition engines. They mostly run on me

Runs on YOU?

LOL!

300 RPM? *How about 600 hp at 80!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxssIc4HUNM

Pfffhhhttttt.....

That's just the starter for this one:

http://people.bath.ac.uk/ccsshb/12cyl/

108,920 hp at 102 rpm

But Tom, Richard was talking about "Gasoline" fueled engines

On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 00:43:27 GMT, Tom Francis
wrote:

On Tue, 30 Dec 2008 16:12:20 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

On Dec 29, 11:03Â*am, (Richard Casady)
wrote:
On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 12:53:54 GMT, Tom Francis

wrote:
Then again, your point is well taken - the whole point of diesels is
lots of power at low rpms.

Nonsense. The only point to Diesels is fuel economy. Were that not so,
they wouldn't even exist. They have both gasoline and steam beat in
that regard. That is what you get in exchange for cost and weight.
They make 300 RPM gas engines by the way. Caterpillar makes large,
slow turning, spark ignition engines. They mostly run on me

Runs on YOU?

LOL!

300 RPM? How about 600 hp at 80!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxssIc4HUNM

Pfffhhhttttt.....

That's just the starter for this one:

http://people.bath.ac.uk/ccsshb/12cyl/

108,920 hp at 102 rpm

Way cool. The Wikipedia entry mentions this:
"The upper portion is lubricated by continuous injection of consumable
lubricant"
So I'm thinking this is just a damn big e-tec.
What is heavy fuel oil? This is said to be a 2-stroke diesel, but
runs on "heavy fuel oil."

--Vic

On Tue, 30 Dec 2008 16:51:55 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

On Dec 30, 2:07*pm, (Richard Casady)
wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2008 14:26:44 GMT, Tom Francis

wrote:
And battleship gray engines. *:)

Officially, there is no such color. Battleships, pickups, and
everything between, are painted ' Haze Gray '.

Casady

Well Richard. You may be right, but there's a lot of paint companies
that label their stuff "Battleship Gray or 'grey'" And of course, tere
are a wide variety of tints with the same name.

http://www.paint-colors.net/store/pr...cat=249&page=1

I was reading something in one of my journals the other day about
black. They've made a "truer" black which, if it can be perfected,
might become the perfect stealth material because it might be capable
of absorbing all light at all wave lengths.

It's made out of carbon nano-tubes.

On Tue, 30 Dec 2008 19:06:04 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 00:43:27 GMT, Tom Francis
wrote:

On Tue, 30 Dec 2008 16:12:20 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

On Dec 29, 11:03*am, (Richard Casady)
wrote:
On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 12:53:54 GMT, Tom Francis

wrote:
Then again, your point is well taken - the whole point of diesels is
lots of power at low rpms.

Nonsense. The only point to Diesels is fuel economy. Were that not so,
they wouldn't even exist. They have both gasoline and steam beat in
that regard. That is what you get in exchange for cost and weight.
They make 300 RPM gas engines by the way. Caterpillar makes large,
slow turning, spark ignition engines. They mostly run on me

Runs on YOU?

LOL!

300 RPM? How about 600 hp at 80!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxssIc4HUNM

Pfffhhhttttt.....

That's just the starter for this one:

http://people.bath.ac.uk/ccsshb/12cyl/

108,920 hp at 102 rpm

Way cool. The Wikipedia entry mentions this:
"The upper portion is lubricated by continuous injection of consumable
lubricant"
So I'm thinking this is just a damn big e-tec.
What is heavy fuel oil? This is said to be a 2-stroke diesel, but
runs on "heavy fuel oil."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuel_oil#Bunker_fuel

On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 01:20:27 GMT, Tom Francis
wrote:

On Tue, 30 Dec 2008 19:06:04 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:


What is heavy fuel oil? This is said to be a 2-stroke diesel, but
runs on "heavy fuel oil."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuel_oil#Bunker_fuel

Thanks. According to that
"HFO (Heavy fuel oil) - Pure or nearly pure residual oil, roughly
equivalent to No. 6 fuel oil."

Since I worked with what this page calls No. 5 (Navy Special) and used
diesel oil and a wire brush to get it off my hands, this "diesel" is a
different animal than you may think.
A filthy nasty beast once it's fired up.
Interesting.

--Vic

On Dec 30, 7:06*pm, Vic Smith wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 00:43:27 GMT, Tom Francis



wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2008 16:12:20 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

On Dec 29, 11:03*am, (Richard Casady)
wrote:
On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 12:53:54 GMT, Tom Francis

wrote:
Then again, your point is well taken - the whole point of diesels is
lots of power at low rpms.

Nonsense. The only point to Diesels is fuel economy. Were that not so,
they wouldn't even exist. They have both gasoline and steam beat in
that regard. That is what you get in exchange for cost and weight.
They make 300 RPM gas engines by the way. Caterpillar makes large,
slow turning, spark ignition engines. They mostly run on me

Runs on YOU?

LOL!

300 RPM? *How about 600 hp at 80!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxssIc4HUNM

Pfffhhhttttt.....

That's just the starter for this one:

http://people.bath.ac.uk/ccsshb/12cyl/

108,920 hp at 102 rpm

Way cool. *The Wikipedia entry mentions this:
"The upper portion is lubricated by continuous injection of consumable
lubricant"
So I'm thinking this is just a damn big e-tec.
What is heavy fuel oil? *This is said to be a 2-stroke diesel, but
runs on "heavy fuel oil."

--Vic

"Baker fuel" or baker oil"

From what I gather, it was almost like tar,and had to be pre-heated to
get it to flow. A guy who was on the USS John Hood told me that.

On Dec 30, 7:20*pm, Tom Francis
wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2008 19:06:04 -0600, Vic Smith







wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 00:43:27 GMT, Tom Francis
wrote:

On Tue, 30 Dec 2008 16:12:20 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

On Dec 29, 11:03*am, (Richard Casady)
wrote:
On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 12:53:54 GMT, Tom Francis

wrote:
Then again, your point is well taken - the whole point of diesels is
lots of power at low rpms.

Nonsense. The only point to Diesels is fuel economy. Were that not so,
they wouldn't even exist. They have both gasoline and steam beat in
that regard. That is what you get in exchange for cost and weight.
They make 300 RPM gas engines by the way. Caterpillar makes large,
slow turning, spark ignition engines. They mostly run on me

Runs on YOU?

LOL!

300 RPM? *How about 600 hp at 80!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxssIc4HUNM

Pfffhhhttttt.....

That's just the starter for this one:

http://people.bath.ac.uk/ccsshb/12cyl/

108,920 hp at 102 rpm

Way cool. *The Wikipedia entry mentions this:
"The upper portion is lubricated by continuous injection of consumable
lubricant"
So I'm thinking this is just a damn big e-tec.
What is heavy fuel oil? *This is said to be a 2-stroke diesel, but
runs on "heavy fuel oil."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuel_oil#Bunker_fuel

You're right Tom, it was "Bunker" not "Baker" fuel, I do stand
corrected.

On Tue, 30 Dec 2008 17:50:17 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuel_oil#Bunker_fuel

You're right Tom, it was "Bunker" not "Baker" fuel, I do stand
corrected.

I like the "baker oil" though.
Hmmmmmmmm. BUTTER!!
Better than that nasty "bunker" stuff of which Navy Special is a
variety.
Though it's not nearly as viscous as tar, we heated it to 135 F and
pumped it into boilers at 1000 psi. It's low grade and cheap.
Had to scrape or steam blast carbon off the boiler tubes every 600
steaming hours. Firesides. Boilermen don't like thinking about it
too much.
I'm going to see if I can get more info about the fuel system on this
"diesel." Because it's cool.

--Vic