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Obama & Blagojevich
Curly Surmudgeon wrote:
On Mon, 05 Jan 2009 17:45:52 -0600, Jeff Mc wrote: Curly Surmudgeon wrote: [snip] I'm of the latter opinion. No troops, one small nuke on Tora Bora the day Osama took credit. End of problem. Whether or not 9/11 was a conspiracy, government involvement or solely bin Laden, none matter when Osama took credit. At that point he signed his own death warrant. Bush ****ed that up too, squandering world-wide sympathy, involving our military into a ground war, giving moslems another cause to hate us, squandering precious national resources and a death-spiral. That would have been a threshold we would have deeply regretted crossing, I disagree, reasons below. and in the worst possible region of the world in which to cross it. The best place to make such a stand. The Neocons are just itching to begin deploying so-called tactical nukes, maybe against Iran. I'm rather surprised they haven't yet. But, in any case, as a technical matter, they would not have gotten the job done in Tora Bora. They already have by virtue of threats of CBR. Obama-Soetoro will continue this policy, along with preemptive war. I said "nuke," singular. One medium sized nuke, 20 megaton for example, would have vaporized the entire mountain and turned the region into a sheet of glass. Not only would it have nailed bin laden, we knew he was there at the time, and obliterated his command hq, but sent a signal to those who only know raw force. Simultaneously we would have removed all our troops and bases from around the world removing the reason Islam hates us. Moreover, world opinion would have shifted even more rapidly and irrevocably against us, and the entire Islamic world, including those who are kinda, sorta with us, would have risen as one in opposition. Naah, on 9/12 we had world opinion with us. A few might have made public statements decrying the use but world opinion would have been, "America finally grew a set of balls, let's not **** with them!" All they had to have done was commit sufficient resources to Afghanistan in the first place, and then employ them intelligently and in a timely manner, and they'd most likely have bagged ObL. "...Most likely have bagged obl..." Close isn't good enough. You don't know the history of Afghanistan, it beat the entire British Empire and Soviet Union. With our supply lines a ground war is insane. Instead, American forces were used to push him towards the Pakistani border, and unreliable indigenous forces were the only ones positioned to prevent him from slipping across. Foolish. It struck me at the time that they must not have really wanted to catch him. Jeff Osama outwitted the entire Bush administration. So that's why Bush et al secretly shepherded the Osama families out of the states following 9/11. Osama said in 2001 that he didn't do it. There's no evidence to the contrary. Those who believe a ground war of attrition will ever win in Afghanistan don't understand history. They don't care about history except that they're in it. The idea is not to kill pawns but to kill the queen. Headless, an enemy dies. Unless it is a multi-headed enemy. Get it? |
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Obama & Blagojevich
Libby Loo wrote:
"John R. Carroll" wrote in message ... "Libby Loo" wrote in message ... "John R. Carroll" wrote in message ... "Libby Loo" wrote in message ... "Cliff" wrote in message ... Found those "WMDs" yet? Found that birth certificate yet? Unlike Jesus, it wasn't lost. I'm pretty sure there is sufficient documentation of Jesus's birth Go ahead and produce it. How original. I asked you first. We do have a death certificate in the Bible... Jewish priests sent their temple guards to arrest the interloper, Jesus, then persuaded Pilate to execute him. |
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