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Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 16:54:11 -0500, HK wrote: Don White wrote: "Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in message ... Well, I gone and dun it... http://tinyurl.com/5wr2q3 Should be here on Friday. Now I need to sell my 300 and 330 before Mrs. Wave finds out. This could be a problem... :) Those Olympic people won't be happy that you've deserted them. Do you think the 4/3 system is a good compromise between full sized SLRs and the tiny compact camera CMOS? No. The original 4/3'rds didn't really catch on. There is no reason to suspect the newly revised version will, either. Where do you come up with this crap? Talk to fashion and outdoors photographers sometime about what they use in reality - Canon or Olympus E-1s and now E-3s. Keep following the herd Harry - that's what you seem to be really good at. Moron. Interesting. The fashion and outdoors photographers I know, and I hire some every year, use Hasselblads, Nikons, and Canons. The architectual photographers are using Hasselblads and 4x5's. I can't even recall the last time I saw a working commercial photographer using an Olympus. Next time you see a presidential "photo op," see if there are very many, if any, Olympus cameras among the pros. For a product like a professional SLR to "catch on," it has to have market share. Among working photographers, what do you suppose the Olympus market share is? No one out there is competing in a serious fashion with Nikon and Canon. I'm not knocking Olympus technology or quality. As I previously stated, they make fine camera. When I state they haven't caught on, I mean market share. I see no reason to be iconoclastic when it comes to cameras. Nikons and Canons are good enough for me. |
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"Boater" wrote in message ... Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 16:54:11 -0500, HK wrote: Don White wrote: "Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in message ... Well, I gone and dun it... http://tinyurl.com/5wr2q3 Should be here on Friday. Now I need to sell my 300 and 330 before Mrs. Wave finds out. This could be a problem... :) Those Olympic people won't be happy that you've deserted them. Do you think the 4/3 system is a good compromise between full sized SLRs and the tiny compact camera CMOS? No. The original 4/3'rds didn't really catch on. There is no reason to suspect the newly revised version will, either. Where do you come up with this crap? Talk to fashion and outdoors photographers sometime about what they use in reality - Canon or Olympus E-1s and now E-3s. Keep following the herd Harry - that's what you seem to be really good at. Moron. Interesting. The fashion and outdoors photographers I know, and I hire some every year, use Hasselblads, Nikons, and Canons. The architectual photographers are using Hasselblads and 4x5's. I can't even recall the last time I saw a working commercial photographer using an Olympus. Next time you see a presidential "photo op," see if there are very many, if any, Olympus cameras among the pros. For a product like a professional SLR to "catch on," it has to have market share. Among working photographers, what do you suppose the Olympus market share is? No one out there is competing in a serious fashion with Nikon and Canon. I'm not knocking Olympus technology or quality. As I previously stated, they make fine camera. When I state they haven't caught on, I mean market share. I see no reason to be iconoclastic when it comes to cameras. Nikons and Canons are good enough for me. When I was downtown visiting Atlantic Photo, the oldest 'real photo store' in this area, the guy told me that the local professionals use either Nikon or Canon cameras. |
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Don White wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message ... Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 16:54:11 -0500, HK wrote: Don White wrote: "Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in message ... Well, I gone and dun it... http://tinyurl.com/5wr2q3 Should be here on Friday. Now I need to sell my 300 and 330 before Mrs. Wave finds out. This could be a problem... :) Those Olympic people won't be happy that you've deserted them. Do you think the 4/3 system is a good compromise between full sized SLRs and the tiny compact camera CMOS? No. The original 4/3'rds didn't really catch on. There is no reason to suspect the newly revised version will, either. Where do you come up with this crap? Talk to fashion and outdoors photographers sometime about what they use in reality - Canon or Olympus E-1s and now E-3s. Keep following the herd Harry - that's what you seem to be really good at. Moron. Interesting. The fashion and outdoors photographers I know, and I hire some every year, use Hasselblads, Nikons, and Canons. The architectual photographers are using Hasselblads and 4x5's. I can't even recall the last time I saw a working commercial photographer using an Olympus. Next time you see a presidential "photo op," see if there are very many, if any, Olympus cameras among the pros. For a product like a professional SLR to "catch on," it has to have market share. Among working photographers, what do you suppose the Olympus market share is? No one out there is competing in a serious fashion with Nikon and Canon. I'm not knocking Olympus technology or quality. As I previously stated, they make fine camera. When I state they haven't caught on, I mean market share. I see no reason to be iconoclastic when it comes to cameras. Nikons and Canons are good enough for me. When I was downtown visiting Atlantic Photo, the oldest 'real photo store' in this area, the guy told me that the local professionals use either Nikon or Canon cameras. That's true pretty much everywhere, except among the photogs shooting larger format...2-1/4, 6x7, 4x5. Despite what you see on TV movies, most fashion photography is NOT shot on 35mm film or digital cameras. The national geo still photographers use nikons and canons almost exclusively. The gal photog I use for west coast photography works freelance for geo these days, and her travel cameras are Nikons. She shoots Hasselblads for the "Good Stuff" indoors, and has an assistant to wrestle with the gear and lights. Once again, I am not knocking Olympus cameras. They just don't have much market share in the top pro segment. It's funny, but when I was commissioning a lot of architectural photography, the very best photographers used 4x5 film almost exclusively and 2-1/4 when space was limited or they had to move fast. Hardly anyone used 35mm, and I believe 35mm film has significantly higher megapixels, as it were, than the best of today's more common digital SLRs. Digital is still catching up with film. |
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On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 00:35:28 -0400, "Don White"
wrote: When I was downtown visiting Atlantic Photo, the oldest 'real photo store' in this area, the guy told me that the local professionals use either Nikon or Canon cameras. That may be true in North America, but the rest of the world knows better. |
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Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 00:35:28 -0400, "Don White" wrote: When I was downtown visiting Atlantic Photo, the oldest 'real photo store' in this area, the guy told me that the local professionals use either Nikon or Canon cameras. That may be true in North America, but the rest of the world knows better. Where is that, Tom? By the shores of Dongting Lake in Hunan Province? Nikon and Canon are the two leading brands of professional-grade SLR cameras used by professionals all around the world. No other brands even come close in that market segment. Do you have a cite that shows "the rest of the world knows better"? What does that mean, anyway? |
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On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 06:42:18 -0500, Boater
wrote: Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 00:35:28 -0400, "Don White" wrote: When I was downtown visiting Atlantic Photo, the oldest 'real photo store' in this area, the guy told me that the local professionals use either Nikon or Canon cameras. That may be true in North America, but the rest of the world knows better. Where is that, Tom? By the shores of Dongting Lake in Hunan Province? Nikon and Canon are the two leading brands of professional-grade SLR cameras used by professionals all around the world. No other brands even come close in that market segment. Do you have a cite that shows "the rest of the world knows better"? What does that mean, anyway? Gonna take me up on my offer? See your best stuff? How about it? |
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Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 06:42:18 -0500, Boater wrote: Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 00:35:28 -0400, "Don White" wrote: When I was downtown visiting Atlantic Photo, the oldest 'real photo store' in this area, the guy told me that the local professionals use either Nikon or Canon cameras. That may be true in North America, but the rest of the world knows better. Where is that, Tom? By the shores of Dongting Lake in Hunan Province? Nikon and Canon are the two leading brands of professional-grade SLR cameras used by professionals all around the world. No other brands even come close in that market segment. Do you have a cite that shows "the rest of the world knows better"? What does that mean, anyway? Gonna take me up on my offer? See your best stuff? How about it? What the hell does an exhibition of my photos on your site have to do with your claim that professional photographers in "the rest of the world know better" than to use Nikon or Canon equipment, or whatever it was you were trying to say there? |
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Boater wrote:
Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 06:42:18 -0500, Boater wrote: Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 00:35:28 -0400, "Don White" wrote: When I was downtown visiting Atlantic Photo, the oldest 'real photo store' in this area, the guy told me that the local professionals use either Nikon or Canon cameras. That may be true in North America, but the rest of the world knows better. Where is that, Tom? By the shores of Dongting Lake in Hunan Province? Nikon and Canon are the two leading brands of professional-grade SLR cameras used by professionals all around the world. No other brands even come close in that market segment. Do you have a cite that shows "the rest of the world knows better"? What does that mean, anyway? Gonna take me up on my offer? See your best stuff? How about it? What the hell does an exhibition of my photos on your site have to do with your claim that professional photographers in "the rest of the world know better" than to use Nikon or Canon equipment, or whatever it was you were trying to say there? You are an armchair expert. Either get out of the chair and prove your capabilities or STFU. |
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Boater wrote:
Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 06:42:18 -0500, Boater wrote: Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 00:35:28 -0400, "Don White" wrote: When I was downtown visiting Atlantic Photo, the oldest 'real photo store' in this area, the guy told me that the local professionals use either Nikon or Canon cameras. That may be true in North America, but the rest of the world knows better. Where is that, Tom? By the shores of Dongting Lake in Hunan Province? Nikon and Canon are the two leading brands of professional-grade SLR cameras used by professionals all around the world. No other brands even come close in that market segment. Do you have a cite that shows "the rest of the world knows better"? What does that mean, anyway? Gonna take me up on my offer? See your best stuff? How about it? What the hell does an exhibition of my photos on your site have to do with your claim that professional photographers in "the rest of the world know better" than to use Nikon or Canon equipment, or whatever it was you were trying to say there? We'd like to see if you are a decent photog. or just a poser. |
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Boater wrote:
Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 06:42:18 -0500, Boater wrote: Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 00:35:28 -0400, "Don White" wrote: When I was downtown visiting Atlantic Photo, the oldest 'real photo store' in this area, the guy told me that the local professionals use either Nikon or Canon cameras. That may be true in North America, but the rest of the world knows better. Where is that, Tom? By the shores of Dongting Lake in Hunan Province? Nikon and Canon are the two leading brands of professional-grade SLR cameras used by professionals all around the world. No other brands even come close in that market segment. Do you have a cite that shows "the rest of the world knows better"? What does that mean, anyway? Gonna take me up on my offer? See your best stuff? How about it? What the hell does an exhibition of my photos on your site have to do with your claim that professional photographers in "the rest of the world know better" than to use Nikon or Canon equipment, or whatever it was you were trying to say there? The camera does not make the photograph. Some really nice photographic art has been captured with a pinhole camera or a Kodak Brownie. The WORST photo of Tom's was far superior to all of the blown out, poorly composed snapshots you have posted. Who could ever forget the mood and emotion your captured in your Stumpy photo. |
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