On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 10:56:50 -0500, BAR wrote:

Boater wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...

It's very nice, but it doesn't sound like a "regular" non-electronic
piano to me. Have you had a chance to mess with a CEUS?


As I tried to explain to you, it *won't* sound like a "regular"
non-electric piano to you because you are playing it on a computer,
using a computer sound module or board to produce the sound of a
piano. It can only sound as good as the type of sound board you have
and the speakers you hear it through.

When played on a real, "regular" non-electric piano, like the QSR
equipped one that we have, it sounds like a real, "regular"
non-electric, grand piano. Because it is. The piano produces the
sound, not electronics.

It's hard to explain.

What's a CEUS?

Eisboch



Sorry. CEUS is the computer grand piano made by Bosendorfer.

From www.bosendorfer.com:

What do you get out of it?

• At the moment, CEUS is the only computer controlled grand piano
world-wide capable of emotionally authentic recording and reproduction
of piano pieces, all that with an exceedingly higher accuracy than
comparable systems.

• CEUS is the perfect practice instrument for professional pianists, as
it enables the pianists to listen to their own performance from an
audience’s perspective. Interpretation and performance skills can thus
be minutely monitored and refined.

• CEUS ensures recordings without any of the sound distortions
introduced by conventional audio systems (microphones, amplifiers,
speakers). Live-recordings from the concert hall are now able to be
realised with this instrument excluding the disturbing noises associated
with live performances.

• CD production recordings can be made and edited on your own
instrument. CD production can be continued in any sound studio equipped
with a CEUS system at any given time.

• CEUS is your partner of choice for long distance music production.
If you would like to play four-handed but you have only got two hands?
CEUS will be at your disposal.

• You already own a Bösendorfer grand and now you prefer a computer
controlled grand? CEUS can be built into all Bösendorfer grand pianos
(models 170 to 290). But don’t worry: the amazing Bösendorfer sound will
remain unchanged even after a customized fitting.
CEUS will work magic

You might perhaps feel like having someone else play for you and conjure
up the music of renowned pianists in your own living room. We will
compile for you a collection of select piano pieces. At one touch of the
remote control CEUS will work magic. Invisible hands will bring your
favourite music – recorded at the Vienna Musikverein – into your home.
Your friends will be amazed.

You are an Internet genius Harry. If you didn't have the Internet you
would be a catalog genius.

He keeps his Bösendorfer grand in his barn. Protected.
--
John

John wrote:
On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 10:56:50 -0500, BAR wrote:

Boater wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...

It's very nice, but it doesn't sound like a "regular" non-electronic
piano to me. Have you had a chance to mess with a CEUS?

As I tried to explain to you, it *won't* sound like a "regular"
non-electric piano to you because you are playing it on a computer,
using a computer sound module or board to produce the sound of a
piano. It can only sound as good as the type of sound board you have
and the speakers you hear it through.

When played on a real, "regular" non-electric piano, like the QSR
equipped one that we have, it sounds like a real, "regular"
non-electric, grand piano. Because it is. The piano produces the
sound, not electronics.

It's hard to explain.

What's a CEUS?

Eisboch


Sorry. CEUS is the computer grand piano made by Bosendorfer.

From www.bosendorfer.com:

What do you get out of it?

• At the moment, CEUS is the only computer controlled grand piano
world-wide capable of emotionally authentic recording and reproduction
of piano pieces, all that with an exceedingly higher accuracy than
comparable systems.

• CEUS is the perfect practice instrument for professional pianists, as
it enables the pianists to listen to their own performance from an
audience’s perspective. Interpretation and performance skills can thus
be minutely monitored and refined.

• CEUS ensures recordings without any of the sound distortions
introduced by conventional audio systems (microphones, amplifiers,
speakers). Live-recordings from the concert hall are now able to be
realised with this instrument excluding the disturbing noises associated
with live performances.

• CD production recordings can be made and edited on your own
instrument. CD production can be continued in any sound studio equipped
with a CEUS system at any given time.

• CEUS is your partner of choice for long distance music production.
If you would like to play four-handed but you have only got two hands?
CEUS will be at your disposal.

• You already own a Bösendorfer grand and now you prefer a computer
controlled grand? CEUS can be built into all Bösendorfer grand pianos
(models 170 to 290). But don’t worry: the amazing Bösendorfer sound will
remain unchanged even after a customized fitting.
CEUS will work magic

You might perhaps feel like having someone else play for you and conjure
up the music of renowned pianists in your own living room. We will
compile for you a collection of select piano pieces. At one touch of the
remote control CEUS will work magic. Invisible hands will bring your
favourite music – recorded at the Vienna Musikverein – into your home.
Your friends will be amazed.
You are an Internet genius Harry. If you didn't have the Internet you
would be a catalog genius.

He keeps his Bösendorfer grand in his barn. Protected.


Where do you keep your "Christianity," Herring? In a place on your body
where the sun never shines?

P.S. I don't have a Bosendorfer grand piano, or any other grand piano.

John wrote:
On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 10:01:22 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

It may bore you to death, but here's the file. I put it together for Mrs.E.
because she loves hearing the piano playing in the house. It will play
through your computer's midi engine. Hopefully, you have a decent set of
speakers hooked up to your computer to get the best quality sound. But, you
have to imagine the same thing being played on a grand, acoustic piano that
does not depend on a sound card, engine or speakers to generate the tonal
quality. It sounds real, because it *is* real.

http://www.eisboch.com/chrismasmed08.mid

Eisboch




Could you make a file with some of the more (I hate to use the word)
'religious' type songs? Some examples might be, O Holy Night, Silent Night,
Adeste Fideles, Noel, What Child is This, Angels We Have Heard on High,
etc. That would be nice also!

If it's offensive, sorry I mentioned it!


Why don't you just go to a damned church?

On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 10:01:22 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

It may bore you to death, but here's the file. I put it together for Mrs.E.
because she loves hearing the piano playing in the house. It will play
through your computer's midi engine. Hopefully, you have a decent set of
speakers hooked up to your computer to get the best quality sound. But, you
have to imagine the same thing being played on a grand, acoustic piano that
does not depend on a sound card, engine or speakers to generate the tonal
quality. It sounds real, because it *is* real.

http://www.eisboch.com/chrismasmed08.mid

Eisboch




Could you make a file with some of the more (I hate to use the word)
'religious' type songs? Some examples might be, O Holy Night, Silent Night,
Adeste Fideles, Noel, What Child is This, Angels We Have Heard on High,
etc. That would be nice also!

If it's offensive, sorry I mentioned it!
--
John

"Boater" wrote in message
...

Eisboch wrote:

What's a CEUS?

Eisboch


Sorry. CEUS is the computer grand piano made by Bosendorfer.

From www.bosendorfer.com:


Wow. Out of my league, that's for sure, but interesting stuff.

Our acoustic grand is located in a specially made alcove to the left as you
enter the main door of the house.
Traditionally, the older Victorian houses in Europe were designed like this
before the days of home stereos, TV's and iPods. The "music" alcove with a
piano or harpsichord was intended to welcome visitors and was the
entertainment area of the day.

We have a second living room area on the second floor. It has one of these
in it:

http://www.kawaius.com/main_links/di..._cp/cp207.html

It's ok, but getting a bit old technology wise. It *does* have a fairly
realistic grand piano sound (along with all the other midi type voices) but
it doesn't compare to the real thing.

Eisboch

"John" wrote in message
...



That's very nice! Really. I like it. It's playing in the background as I
type.

Could you do 'Pictures at an Exhibition' also, so I can see if my sound
system has the appropriate 'warmth'?
--
John


Sure. As soon as I get a round tuit.

Eisboch

On Dec 11, 10:38*am, Boater wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:





Boater wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
John wrote:
On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 08:47:18 -0500, Boater
wrote:

There are many themes in Russian music that are based upon folk
tunes, are nationalistic and are used by numerous composers. There
are also tonal similarities in the pieces you brought up.

Pictures at an Exhibition was written by its composer for solo
piano. As such, it is among the most difficult to learn and play
collection of piano pieces in the repertoire. I don't much like the
Ravel orchestration. I find it heavy and overwrought.

The best recordings of the piece *as written* date back a few
decades to performances in the old Soviet Union by Russian piano
superstars. This modern young fellow ain't bad, though:

http://www.serg.vangennip.com/www/piano.html

In fact, he's very good, and he is playing the piece *as written*
by Mussorgsky. It's best not to listen to solo piano music on super
high-tech speakers. They tend to be without...warmth.

I am not cultured enough to prefer Pictures at an Exhibition "as
written". *I have always thought the piano version is nice, but
different, sort of "Pictures at an Exhibition Unplugged". *Since the
music was written to be played at his friends art exhibit, it would
have been difficult to get an orchestra in the small gallery, so
Mussorgsky didn't have that option. *If you look at Mussorgsky other
compositions, I would guess he would have enjoyed the heavy and
overwrought Orchestrated version. *If there EVER was a piece of music
that was HEAVY *and OVERWROUGHT, it is Night on Bald Mountain.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_0GekZl7YA

I have enjoyed Night on Bald Music since I heard it in Disney's
Fantasia, and that when I thought it was written by Disney.

I am just a boorish uncouth type of guy who knows what he likes, and
would never know what music to listen to on high tech speakers and
what music to listen to on old regular speakers. *On top of that you
need to about what decade the music was recorded,

I had no idea how difficult it is to be cultured and refined.

Life isn't easy for the likes of you.

That piece of music you like from the famous Disney cartoon is not
Night on Bald Mountain. It is Night on Bare Mountain.

Damn, I learn something new all the time. *If you had not pointed that
out, I would never have known. *You may want to contact Disney about
this because they are selling the Walt Disney's Fantasia: Remastered
Original Soundtrack official but they included *A Night on Bald Mountain
by Mussorgsky, instead of Night on Bare Mountain. *They must not be a
flaunt in translating Russian as you are. *Night on Bald Mountain and
Night on Bare Mountain are the exact same music, it is a difference in
translation of the Russian.

"I had no idea how difficult it is to be cultured and refined." For
someone like you, it probably is.

I know, I try to enjoy life and not worry trying to be pompous or if I
am listening to music on the correct speakers. * Jeez, you really are
funny. *I would enjoy meeting you in real life, I would lay 10 to 1 odds
that you are real mousy reserved type of guy. *I have never known anyone
who tries so desperately seeks approval.

I was trying to lead you down the path of righteousness, since you
seem to prefer the Ravel "Pictures," which is kind of silly.

The original title given the work by its composer include the descriptor
"Bare," not "Bold." Another Russian composer "messed" with the original
Mussorgsky, and that adaptation of Mussorgsky's work, along with some of
the "original" was the basis of the work Stokowski "arranged" for the movie.

I'm sure you can google up something in conflict. That's your stock in
trade, right? I mean, you don't seem to actually know anything.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Holy COW!!! Harry demeaning someone for googling!!!!!!
That's all he does!!!!

On Dec 11, 10:48*am, Boater wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...

It's very nice, but it doesn't sound like a "regular" non-electronic piano
to me. Have you had a chance to mess with a CEUS?

As I tried to explain to you, it *won't* sound like a "regular" non-electric
piano to you because you are playing it on a computer, using a computer
sound module or board to produce the sound of a piano. *It can only sound as
good as the type of sound board you have and the speakers you hear it
through.

When played on a real, "regular" non-electric piano, like the QSR equipped
one that we have, it sounds like a real, "regular" non-electric, grand
piano. *Because it is. *The piano produces the sound, not electronics.

It's hard to explain.

What's a CEUS?

Eisboch

Sorry. CEUS is the computer grand piano made by Bosendorfer.

*Fromwww.bosendorfer.com:

What do you get out of it?

• At the moment, CEUS is the only computer controlled grand piano
world-wide capable of emotionally authentic recording and reproduction
of piano pieces, all that with an exceedingly higher accuracy than
comparable systems.

• CEUS is the perfect practice instrument for professional pianists, as
it enables the pianists to listen to their own performance from an
audience’s perspective. Interpretation and performance skills can thus
be minutely monitored and refined.

• CEUS ensures recordings without any of the sound distortions
introduced by conventional audio systems (microphones, amplifiers,
speakers). Live-recordings from the concert hall are now able to be
realised with this instrument excluding the disturbing noises associated
with live performances.

• CD production recordings can be made and edited on your own
instrument. CD production can be continued in any sound studio equipped
with a CEUS system at any given time.

• CEUS is your partner of choice for long distance music production.
If you would like to play four-handed but you have only got two hands?
CEUS will be at your disposal.

• You already own a Bösendorfer grand and now you prefer a computer
controlled grand? CEUS can be built into all Bösendorfer grand pianos
(models 170 to 290). But don’t worry: the amazing Bösendorfer sound will
remain unchanged even after a customized fitting.
CEUS will work magic

You might perhaps feel like having someone else play for you and conjure
up the music of renowned pianists in your own living room. We will
compile for you a collection of select piano pieces. At one touch of the
remote control CEUS will work magic. Invisible hands will bring your
favourite music – recorded at the Vienna Musikverein – into your home..
Your friends will be amazed.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

In your words:
"I'm sure you can google up something in conflict. That's your stock
in
trade, right? I mean, you don't seem to actually know anything."

On Dec 11, 10:04*am, Boater wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:


"I had no idea how difficult it is to be cultured and refined." For
someone like you, it probably is.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

This from one of the most vulgar, nasty fat low life vermin in
rec.boats.

"Boater" wrote in message
...

John wrote:

Could you make a file with some of the more (I hate to use the word)
'religious' type songs? Some examples might be, O Holy Night, Silent
Night,
Adeste Fideles, Noel, What Child is This, Angels We Have Heard on High,
etc. That would be nice also!

If it's offensive, sorry I mentioned it!




Why don't you just go to a damned church?


You really are something else Harry.
Predictable as hell, but something else ....

I have a suggestion for you. If you don't like traditional Christmas Carols
or hymns, don't load them in your iPod. Otherwise, let people enjoy what
*they* enjoy.

Sometimes you really are a jerk.

I am not a religious person. But I respect the rights of others that are,
and I respect the goodness that comes from some people at this time of year,
of all religious faiths or even those just getting caught up in a holiday
spirit.

Right now Mrs.E. and one of her very religious girlfriends are downstairs
planning the final details for an open house event here this Sunday where
they will be collecting gift donations for a children's homeless (and
parentless) shelter in Plymouth. Even though it's sponsored by Mrs.E.'s
girlfriend's church, my wife is excited about doing something worthwhile
(and she's not a church goer either). They'll have refreshments, music and
Holiday Cheer.

It's really the reason I made the Christmas Melody file to be played on the
piano as background music.

Ho Ho Ho.

Eisboch