wrote:
On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 06:50:55 -0500, BAR wrote:


Does the rule of law mean anything? From where do the laws of the USA
come? I find it interesting that a lawyer, The Obama, is so ignorant of
the laws of the USA. What is he hiding regarding his birth?

Absolutely nothing, he has disclosed his birth certificate, and the state
of Hawaii has declared it legitimate.

http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/ar...ING01/81031064

We have seen a computer generated piece of paper. What we want is a
photo copy of his birth certificate. I Was born just a couple of weeks
after The Obama in Washington State. I have both a computer generated
piece of paper and a photo copy of my birth certificate. They are not
one in the same.

On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 07:09:58 -0500, BAR wrote:


http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/ar...ING01/81031064

We have seen a computer generated piece of paper. What we want is a
photo copy of his birth certificate. I Was born just a couple of weeks
after The Obama in Washington State. I have both a computer generated
piece of paper and a photo copy of my birth certificate. They are not
one in the same.

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2...n_the_usa.html

wrote:
On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 07:09:58 -0500, BAR wrote:


http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/ar...ING01/81031064
We have seen a computer generated piece of paper. What we want is a
photo copy of his birth certificate. I Was born just a couple of weeks
after The Obama in Washington State. I have both a computer generated
piece of paper and a photo copy of my birth certificate. They are not
one in the same.

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2...n_the_usa.html

That is the computer generated one. As I said, I have one of those from
the State of Washington. I also have a photo copy of my Birth
Certificate from the State of Washington too that was generated in
September of 1961. I want to see a photo copy of the birth certificate
issued in August of 1961 for The Obama.

Anyone can printout a piece of paper and put some stamps on it. But,
forging a document and embossing it with a 50 year old seal takes a real
professional.

On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 07:19:43 -0500, BAR wrote:

wrote:
On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 07:09:58 -0500, BAR wrote:


http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/20081031/
BREAKING01/81031064
We have seen a computer generated piece of paper. What we want is a
photo copy of his birth certificate. I Was born just a couple of weeks
after The Obama in Washington State. I have both a computer generated
piece of paper and a photo copy of my birth certificate. They are not
one in the same.

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2...n_the_usa.html

That is the computer generated one. As I said, I have one of those from
the State of Washington. I also have a photo copy of my Birth
Certificate from the State of Washington too that was generated in
September of 1961. I want to see a photo copy of the birth certificate
issued in August of 1961 for The Obama.

Anyone can printout a piece of paper and put some stamps on it. But,
forging a document and embossing it with a 50 year old seal takes a real
professional.

Don't you think you might be getting a little paranoid? Put the above
two links together, and most reasonable people would conclude Obama was
born in Hawaii.

wrote:
On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 07:19:43 -0500, BAR wrote:

wrote:
On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 07:09:58 -0500, BAR wrote:


http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/20081031/
BREAKING01/81031064
We have seen a computer generated piece of paper. What we want is a
photo copy of his birth certificate. I Was born just a couple of weeks
after The Obama in Washington State. I have both a computer generated
piece of paper and a photo copy of my birth certificate. They are not
one in the same.
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2...n_the_usa.html
That is the computer generated one. As I said, I have one of those from
the State of Washington. I also have a photo copy of my Birth
Certificate from the State of Washington too that was generated in
September of 1961. I want to see a photo copy of the birth certificate
issued in August of 1961 for The Obama.

Anyone can printout a piece of paper and put some stamps on it. But,
forging a document and embossing it with a 50 year old seal takes a real
professional.

Don't you think you might be getting a little paranoid? Put the above
two links together, and most reasonable people would conclude Obama was
born in Hawaii.


It's not paranoia; it's the Republican wet dream.

wrote:
On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 07:19:43 -0500, BAR wrote:

wrote:
On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 07:09:58 -0500, BAR wrote:


http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/20081031/
BREAKING01/81031064
We have seen a computer generated piece of paper. What we want is a
photo copy of his birth certificate. I Was born just a couple of weeks
after The Obama in Washington State. I have both a computer generated
piece of paper and a photo copy of my birth certificate. They are not
one in the same.
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2...n_the_usa.html
That is the computer generated one. As I said, I have one of those from
the State of Washington. I also have a photo copy of my Birth
Certificate from the State of Washington too that was generated in
September of 1961. I want to see a photo copy of the birth certificate
issued in August of 1961 for The Obama.

Anyone can printout a piece of paper and put some stamps on it. But,
forging a document and embossing it with a 50 year old seal takes a real
professional.

Don't you think you might be getting a little paranoid? Put the above
two links together, and most reasonable people would conclude Obama was
born in Hawaii.

A birth announcement in a newspaper means nothing.

A certificate of live birth can be forged.

On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 08:08:46 -0500, BAR wrote:



A certificate of live birth can be forged.

It also might be irrelevant. Read clause g in the following:

http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/8...1----000-.html

That would appear, IANAL, to make Obama a natural born citizen whether he
was born in Kenya, or Hawaii.

"BAR" wrote in message
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wrote:
On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 07:09:58 -0500, BAR wrote:


http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/ar...ING01/81031064
We have seen a computer generated piece of paper. What we want is a
photo copy of his birth certificate. I Was born just a couple of weeks
after The Obama in Washington State. I have both a computer generated
piece of paper and a photo copy of my birth certificate. They are not
one in the same.

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2...n_the_usa.html

That is the computer generated one. As I said, I have one of those from
the State of Washington. I also have a photo copy of my Birth Certificate
from the State of Washington too that was generated in September of 1961.
I want to see a photo copy of the birth certificate issued in August of
1961 for The Obama.

Anyone can printout a piece of paper and put some stamps on it. But,
forging a document and embossing it with a 50 year old seal takes a real
professional.

Maybe like my mother, there is no birth certificate. Doctor thought she was
not going to survive and never filed the BC. She fooled them. Turned 94
last week. Rural Nebraska.

On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 07:09:58 -0500, BAR wrote:

wrote:
On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 06:50:55 -0500, BAR wrote:


Does the rule of law mean anything? From where do the laws of the USA
come? I find it interesting that a lawyer, The Obama, is so ignorant of
the laws of the USA. What is he hiding regarding his birth?

Absolutely nothing, he has disclosed his birth certificate, and the state
of Hawaii has declared it legitimate.

http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/ar...ING01/81031064

We have seen a computer generated piece of paper. What we want is a
photo copy of his birth certificate. I Was born just a couple of weeks
after The Obama in Washington State. I have both a computer generated
piece of paper and a photo copy of my birth certificate. They are not
one in the same.

Letr's not get side tracked here - that's not the issue. It is a
legitimate certificate of birth - as far as it goes.

The problem is that the circumstances of certification are extra legal
as I stated.

Let's not get all icky ballooky about the certificate itself - it's
good.

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 07:09:58 -0500, BAR wrote:

wrote:
On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 06:50:55 -0500, BAR wrote:


Does the rule of law mean anything? From where do the laws of the USA
come? I find it interesting that a lawyer, The Obama, is so ignorant of
the laws of the USA. What is he hiding regarding his birth?
Absolutely nothing, he has disclosed his birth certificate, and the state
of Hawaii has declared it legitimate.

http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/ar...ING01/81031064
We have seen a computer generated piece of paper. What we want is a
photo copy of his birth certificate. I Was born just a couple of weeks
after The Obama in Washington State. I have both a computer generated
piece of paper and a photo copy of my birth certificate. They are not
one in the same.

Letr's not get side tracked here - that's not the issue. It is a
legitimate certificate of birth - as far as it goes.

The problem is that the circumstances of certification are extra legal
as I stated.

Let's not get all icky ballooky about the certificate itself - it's
good.


Game over, Tom. Move on.

The Hawaii certificate is almost exactly the same as the one I got from
New Haven when I applied for a passport. Good enough is good enough is
good enough.

The Supremes are *not* going to cert any of these soreloserman cases.
Find another issue, like whether your party is really going to nominate
Sarah Palin in 2012.