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On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 08:17:37 -0800, justwaitafrekinminute wrote:


There is no way in the world the American worker of present day works
harder than the guy in my dad's day. I have been victim to being told to
slow down by a union. In all fairness (which we won't expect from the
other side) I was also told to slow down while on piece work at
Standadyne, a non union shop...


That may, or may not be, but American workers are still the most
productive workers on this planet.

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On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 16:57:41 -0500, John wrote:


In all this discussion, you've never answered the questions asked by
myself or Tom.

A lot of side-stepping, but no direct answer.


Well Colonel, I'm not in the service. Why in the hell, would I take
orders from you? Answer your own strawman.
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On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 08:17:37 -0800, justwaitafrekinminute wrote:


There is no way in the world the American worker of present day works
harder than the guy in my dad's day. I have been victim to being told to
slow down by a union. In all fairness (which we won't expect from the
other side) I was also told to slow down while on piece work at
Standadyne, a non union shop...


That may, or may not be, but American workers are still the most
productive workers on this planet.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20572828/


You've got to be something of an intellectual nitwit to attempt to
portmanteau these isolated incidents of JustHate's into any sort of
universal truth.

What defines "work hard," anyway? It's certainly more than "just"
physical labor.
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On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 16:57:41 -0500, John wrote:

On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 15:51:27 -0600, wrote:

On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 08:17:37 -0800, justwaitafrekinminute wrote:


There is no way in the world the American worker of present day works
harder than the guy in my dad's day. I have been victim to being told
to slow down by a union. In all fairness (which we won't expect from
the other side) I was also told to slow down while on piece work at
Standadyne, a non union shop...


That may, or may not be, but American workers are still the most
productive workers on this planet.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20572828/

In all this discussion, you've never answered the questions asked by
myself or Tom.

A lot of side-stepping, but no direct answer.


Do your own research to prove him wrong. Twenty years of welfare and
nothing but questions. Too lazy to use the internet. Still on welfare.

Who holds your hand to cross the street?



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On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 14:03:17 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:


http://www.bls.gov/lpc/prodybar.htm


Well, that's kind of the point. What data do you trust?


The Bureau of Labor Statistics.


Who should benefit from the obvious productivity increase - the company
or the workers?


Historically, when productivity increases, there may be a lag, but wages
also increase. What's changed?

The answer to that, is far more devastating to this country's long term
economic health, than the middle-class not getting their share.

What's the measure of productivity he's quoting? Per unit, per hour,
per what? I would think that if a company over 8 years increased it's
productivity by 20% (which is 2.5%/yr by the way) that's not a whole lot
considering inflation, raw material costs, etc. And if your company has
a high labor quotient to the cost of production, that's almost
negligible.


If you want to consider inflation, real wages have decreased.
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On Dec 14, 5:04*pm, Boater wrote:
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On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 08:17:37 -0800, justwaitafrekinminute wrote:


There is no way in the world the American worker of present day works
harder than the guy in my dad's day. I have been victim to being told to
slow down by a union. In all fairness (which we won't expect from the
other side) I was also told to slow down while on piece work at
Standadyne, a non union shop...


That may, or may not be, but American workers are still the most
productive workers on this planet.


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20572828/


You've got to be something of an intellectual nitwit to attempt to
portmanteau these isolated incidents of JustHate's into any sort of
universal truth.

What defines "work hard," anyway? It's certainly more than "just"
physical labor.


Hard work is earning a days pay, by giving up a days work....
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On Dec 14, 5:04 pm, Boater wrote:
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On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 08:17:37 -0800, justwaitafrekinminute wrote:
There is no way in the world the American worker of present day works
harder than the guy in my dad's day. I have been victim to being told to
slow down by a union. In all fairness (which we won't expect from the
other side) I was also told to slow down while on piece work at
Standadyne, a non union shop...
That may, or may not be, but American workers are still the most
productive workers on this planet.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20572828/
You've got to be something of an intellectual nitwit to attempt to
portmanteau these isolated incidents of JustHate's into any sort of
universal truth.

What defines "work hard," anyway? It's certainly more than "just"
physical labor.


Hard work is earning a days pay, by giving up a days work....



That's no definition.
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