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On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 18:41:46 -0500, Boater
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Since I never buy new cars, I can't really say. Probably not.
But I have a very strong feeling GM will be around a long time, in
some form. Too big to die.

--Vic
You mean, like a boat company that has gone under? Someone buys the
name
after the company has gone teats up?
All kinds of possibilities. Might keep the name GM after reorg, or
change it ala IH becoming Navistar or some such.
Bottom line is there will always be a Chevy.

--Vic

I figure Chrysler or Ford will pick up the brand cheap.
Cheap isn't cheap enough if they don't have any money to spend.

For a $1 I would buy it.

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On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 18:41:46 -0500, Boater
wrote:

Since I never buy new cars, I can't really say. Probably not.
But I have a very strong feeling GM will be around a long time, in
some form. Too big to die.

--Vic
You mean, like a boat company that has gone under? Someone buys the
name
after the company has gone teats up?
All kinds of possibilities. Might keep the name GM after reorg, or
change it ala IH becoming Navistar or some such.
Bottom line is there will always be a Chevy.

--Vic
I figure Chrysler or Ford will pick up the brand cheap.
Cheap isn't cheap enough if they don't have any money to spend.

For a $1 I would buy it.


I'll split it with you. It's always good to have a partner when you are
going into a risky venture. ;-)

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"Jim" wrote in message
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On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 18:41:46 -0500, Boater
wrote:

Since I never buy new cars, I can't really say. Probably not.
But I have a very strong feeling GM will be around a long time, in
some form. Too big to die.

--Vic
You mean, like a boat company that has gone under? Someone buys the
name
after the company has gone teats up?
All kinds of possibilities. Might keep the name GM after reorg, or
change it ala IH becoming Navistar or some such.
Bottom line is there will always be a Chevy.

--Vic
I figure Chrysler or Ford will pick up the brand cheap.
Cheap isn't cheap enough if they don't have any money to spend.

For a $1 I would buy it.
I'll split it with you. It's always good to have a partner when you are
going into a risky venture. ;-)

As long as I get to fire the board and the senior executives. We can
discuss the unions an hour later. But GM becomes non-union. Don't need
them in the way of making profit and a more job secure work place for those
that remain.

Lots of people want a good job. CAW can be replaced.

Canuck57 wrote:
"Jim" wrote in message
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Canuck57 wrote:
"Jim" wrote in message
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Canuck57 wrote:
"Vic Smith" wrote in message
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On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 18:41:46 -0500, Boater
wrote:

Since I never buy new cars, I can't really say. Probably not.
But I have a very strong feeling GM will be around a long time, in
some form. Too big to die.

--Vic
You mean, like a boat company that has gone under? Someone buys the
name
after the company has gone teats up?
All kinds of possibilities. Might keep the name GM after reorg, or
change it ala IH becoming Navistar or some such.
Bottom line is there will always be a Chevy.

--Vic
I figure Chrysler or Ford will pick up the brand cheap.
Cheap isn't cheap enough if they don't have any money to spend.
For a $1 I would buy it.
I'll split it with you. It's always good to have a partner when you are
going into a risky venture. ;-)

As long as I get to fire the board and the senior executives. We can
discuss the unions an hour later. But GM becomes non-union. Don't need
them in the way of making profit and a more job secure work place for those
that remain.

Lots of people want a good job. CAW can be replaced.


I'll be a silent partner. You have a pretty good handle on what needs to
be done.

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"Jim" wrote in message
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"Jim" wrote in message
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On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 18:41:46 -0500, Boater
wrote:

Since I never buy new cars, I can't really say. Probably not.
But I have a very strong feeling GM will be around a long time, in
some form. Too big to die.

--Vic
You mean, like a boat company that has gone under? Someone buys the
name
after the company has gone teats up?
All kinds of possibilities. Might keep the name GM after reorg, or
change it ala IH becoming Navistar or some such.
Bottom line is there will always be a Chevy.

--Vic
I figure Chrysler or Ford will pick up the brand cheap.
Cheap isn't cheap enough if they don't have any money to spend.
For a $1 I would buy it.
I'll split it with you. It's always good to have a partner when you are
going into a risky venture. ;-)

As long as I get to fire the board and the senior executives. We can
discuss the unions an hour later. But GM becomes non-union. Don't need
them in the way of making profit and a more job secure work place for
those that remain.

Lots of people want a good job. CAW can be replaced.
I'll be a silent partner. You have a pretty good handle on what needs to
be done.


"Silent partner"? ... how about trying that out here.

On Mon, 17 Nov 2008 07:29:50 -0700, "Canuck57"
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Lots of people want a good job. CAW can be replaced.

Saw an article where Toyota is saying Canadian labor is too expensive.
That's not CAW.
Might see them start shifting Canadian work to Alabama.
Or Maylasia - whichever is cheaper.

--Vic

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On Mon, 17 Nov 2008 07:29:50 -0700, "Canuck57"
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Lots of people want a good job. CAW can be replaced.

Saw an article where Toyota is saying Canadian labor is too expensive.
That's not CAW.
Might see them start shifting Canadian work to Alabama.
Or Maylasia - whichever is cheaper.

--Vic

That is a flip of a coin. Both are too expensive for auto workers. It
washes. But Canada might actually have a small advantage. Some
differences.

Health care is a provincial concern, but pay (average 5 year rate) is about
the same. Canadians get ripped in the taxes. In Ontario for example add
15% sales tax and excise fees on a new auto. Higher provincial, federal
income and hidden taxes. So US companies are not on the hook for it,
including retirees.

But Canadian Ontario/Quebec unions are also more despondent, more militant
and often set the pace. Not business friendly because of it. Everything
from property taxes to hydro is more expensive.

If you go west to Alberta it changes dramatically, Alberta is very
republican right, even by American standards. This is a Ontario/Quebec and
east coast curse, very lunch bucket socialistic and often myopic.

But for an American company I worked for 8 years, 4 on the US side and 4 on
the Canadian side, the US employees were more expensive in total cost and
definitively got paid more with better over all benefits. I estimate by
30%.