Eisboch wrote:
"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
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Let GM die - fertilizer for smaller, leaner and better companies to
suceed.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it.



Did I ever tell you about my hollow cathode plasma energy generator?

(seriously)

I stumbled across this many years ago purely by serendipity, doing some
experiments in a vacuum chamber.
It converted electrical energy into heat at about 100 times (or more) the
efficiency of conventional electric or fossil fueled heat generators.

I always wanted to go back and follow up on it. For example, I think it
could be used to heat a house very economically. Sorta like a mini nuclear
power generator without the nuclear reaction.

Eisboch




A precursor to the flux capacitor?

"Boater" wrote in message
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Eisboch wrote:
"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
message ...

Let GM die - fertilizer for smaller, leaner and better companies to
suceed.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it.



Did I ever tell you about my hollow cathode plasma energy generator?

(seriously)

I stumbled across this many years ago purely by serendipity, doing some
experiments in a vacuum chamber.
It converted electrical energy into heat at about 100 times (or more) the
efficiency of conventional electric or fossil fueled heat generators.

I always wanted to go back and follow up on it. For example, I think it
could be used to heat a house very economically. Sorta like a mini
nuclear power generator without the nuclear reaction.

Eisboch




A precursor to the flux capacitor?

Beats me. It works though and I have test measurements to back it up.

A "plasma" is not completely understood by the scientific community,
although it happens all around us.
The visible flash of a lightning bolt or the light emitted from a
fluorescent bulb are plasmas.

Many consider it a completely unique state of matter and when applied in
certain hardware configurations can do some strange things.

Anyway, I have to think about this some more.

Eisboch

Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...
Eisboch wrote:
"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
message ...

Let GM die - fertilizer for smaller, leaner and better companies to
suceed.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it.


Did I ever tell you about my hollow cathode plasma energy generator?

(seriously)

I stumbled across this many years ago purely by serendipity, doing some
experiments in a vacuum chamber.
It converted electrical energy into heat at about 100 times (or more) the
efficiency of conventional electric or fossil fueled heat generators.

I always wanted to go back and follow up on it. For example, I think it
could be used to heat a house very economically. Sorta like a mini
nuclear power generator without the nuclear reaction.

Eisboch



A precursor to the flux capacitor?

Beats me. It works though and I have test measurements to back it up.

A "plasma" is not completely understood by the scientific community,
although it happens all around us.
The visible flash of a lightning bolt or the light emitted from a
fluorescent bulb are plasmas.

Many consider it a completely unique state of matter and when applied in
certain hardware configurations can do some strange things.

Anyway, I have to think about this some more.

Eisboch




Well, you are way, way over my head on this one. I did build a working
cloud chamber in the 7th grade and can tell you precisely how to build
one now. But a plasma energy generator? My first thought would be a
device vampires could use to regenerate energy in tired blood. :)

"Boater" wrote in message
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Well, you are way, way over my head on this one. I did build a working
cloud chamber in the 7th grade and can tell you precisely how to build one
now. But a plasma energy generator? My first thought would be a device
vampires could use to regenerate energy in tired blood. :)


Ahem .... ummmm..... not to toot my horn, but I actually have a couple of
patents on the device, used for another application.

It works. Problem is ... I don't.

Eisboch

"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"Boater" wrote in message
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Well, you are way, way over my head on this one. I did build a working
cloud chamber in the 7th grade and can tell you precisely how to build
one now. But a plasma energy generator? My first thought would be a
device vampires could use to regenerate energy in tired blood. :)


Ahem .... ummmm..... not to toot my horn, but I actually have a couple of
patents on the device, used for another application.

It works. Problem is ... I don't.

Eisboch


addendum...

I had forgotten about this thing for years. Although I had sorta day
dreamed about other applications, like home heating, I was too busy trying
to make a living to pursue it. Plus, the time wasn't right. Energy was
cheap and even if I had the financial where-with-all at the time to develop
it, it probably wouldn't catch anybody's attention.

But ... things have changed. I'll have to go dig out the old notebooks and
re-visit it.

Eisboch

"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"Boater" wrote in message
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Well, you are way, way over my head on this one. I did build a working
cloud chamber in the 7th grade and can tell you precisely how to build
one now. But a plasma energy generator? My first thought would be a
device vampires could use to regenerate energy in tired blood. :)


Ahem .... ummmm..... not to toot my horn, but I actually have a couple of
patents on the device, used for another application.

It works. Problem is ... I don't.

Eisboch


addendum...

I had forgotten about this thing for years. Although I had sorta day
dreamed about other applications, like home heating, I was too busy trying
to make a living to pursue it. Plus, the time wasn't right. Energy was
cheap and even if I had the financial where-with-all at the time to
develop it, it probably wouldn't catch anybody's attention.

But ... things have changed. I'll have to go dig out the old notebooks
and re-visit it.

Eisboch

If you can come up with a way to heat homes more efficiently, come on up
here. I'm sure the different Federal and Provincial development agencies
would have money to invest if you do the work in Canada.

Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
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Well, you are way, way over my head on this one. I did build a working
cloud chamber in the 7th grade and can tell you precisely how to build one
now. But a plasma energy generator? My first thought would be a device
vampires could use to regenerate energy in tired blood. :)


Ahem .... ummmm..... not to toot my horn, but I actually have a couple of
patents on the device, used for another application.

It works. Problem is ... I don't.

Eisboch




Well, get to work. We don't need any more software pussies or guys who
develop weirdo financial instruments. We need product that requires
people to build it.

About two months ago, I met with the CEO of a client and he was being
buried alive in resumes from $600,000 to multi-million dollar guys who
had lost their financial sector jobs and wanted to come work for him, at
salaries resembling those they had lost. This is a guy who runs a very
profitable $10 billion closed trust that is, in fact, having its most
profitable year.

"We don't pay anyone here, including me, that kind of money," he said.

Right on.

On Sat, 15 Nov 2008 09:24:42 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

Beats me. It works though and I have test measurements to back it up.

A "plasma" is not completely understood by the scientific community,
although it happens all around us.
The visible flash of a lightning bolt or the light emitted from a
fluorescent bulb are plasmas.

Many consider it a completely unique state of matter and when applied in
certain hardware configurations can do some strange things.

Anyway, I have to think about this some more.

Be careful here. The laws of physics and mathematics preclude the
possibility of generating more than 3413 BTU/hr per kilowatt. The
only exception is if heat is moved from one place to another in the
process, for example, a heat pump.

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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Be careful here. The laws of physics and mathematics preclude the
possibility of generating more than 3413 BTU/hr per kilowatt. The
only exception is if heat is moved from one place to another in the
process, for example, a heat pump.



That's why the results of the tests were so bizarre.
What I was doing was heating an object of a certain mass.
When heating it with conventional means (or those used for the
state-of-the-art at the time)
the time required to heat the object ..... in this case to 200 degrees C.
took many, many times longer when compared to the plasma configuration,
using roughly the same amount of input power. I'll have to review the notes
to get the actual numbers.

I don't profess to understand what is going on, except for the facts that
this occurs in a vacuum, under a partial pressure. Argon gas molecules are
energized to an ionized (plasma) state within a confined space and are used
to bombard the object, using a 400 - 500 volt DC potential difference. In
some cases, I actually was able to begin to melt (actually evaporate or
sublimate) the aluminum object in very short order, something that never
occurred with the other means of heating. It's not dis-similar to a
process called "sputtering", but you don't apply enough power to knock atoms
of material off of the object (target).

I am purposely leaving out a significant detail of the configuration, for
selfish reasons.

I read one scientific paper that talked about the same type of phenomena.
The patent attorney found it and gave it to me to read. If I recall
correctly, the author, in his summary (which is really all I could
understand) acknowledged that he didn't have a clue either, other than it
didn't appear to follow accepted thermodynamics laws and he (as others have
done) theorized on a new state of matter. Not a gas, not a solid, not a
liquid.

All this occurred in 1983 or thereabouts.

Eisboch

"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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Be careful here. The laws of physics and mathematics preclude the
possibility of generating more than 3413 BTU/hr per kilowatt. The
only exception is if heat is moved from one place to another in the
process, for example, a heat pump.



That's why the results of the tests were so bizarre.
What I was doing was heating an object of a certain mass.
When heating it with conventional means (or those used for the
state-of-the-art at the time)
the time required to heat the object ..... in this case to 200 degrees C.
took many, many times longer when compared to the plasma configuration,
using roughly the same amount of input power. I'll have to review the
notes to get the actual numbers.

I don't profess to understand what is going on, except for the facts that
this occurs in a vacuum, under a partial pressure. Argon gas molecules
are energized to an ionized (plasma) state within a confined space and are
used to bombard the object, using a 400 - 500 volt DC potential
difference. In some cases, I actually was able to begin to melt
(actually evaporate or sublimate) the aluminum object in very short order,
something that never occurred with the other means of heating. It's not
dis-similar to a process called "sputtering", but you don't apply enough
power to knock atoms of material off of the object (target).

I am purposely leaving out a significant detail of the configuration, for
selfish reasons.

I read one scientific paper that talked about the same type of phenomena.
The patent attorney found it and gave it to me to read. If I recall
correctly, the author, in his summary (which is really all I could
understand) acknowledged that he didn't have a clue either, other than it
didn't appear to follow accepted thermodynamics laws and he (as others
have done) theorized on a new state of matter. Not a gas, not a solid,
not a liquid.

All this occurred in 1983 or thereabouts.

Eisboch


Does this mean you'll be giving up the limo and sound equipment rental
business? 8)