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In my area, Lee County, IA, we have coyote hunters using
marine channel 68. In Hancock County IL a similiar use of
marine channel 69 is occurring.

It has also been noted that truckers are using Marine ch 71
and ch. 19A in the Ft Madison IA area.

I wonder if any other posters have noticed such activity
on Marine channels?

John Anderson
West Point, Iowa

http://k0bkl.org/radio/coyote.htm



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"John Anderson" wrote:

In my area, Lee County, IA, we have coyote hunters using
marine channel 68. In Hancock County IL a similiar use of
marine channel 69 is occurring.

It has also been noted that truckers are using Marine ch 71
and ch. 19A in the Ft Madison IA area.

I wonder if any other posters have noticed such activity
on Marine channels?

John Anderson
West Point, Iowa

http://k0bkl.org/radio/coyote.htm


This type of stuff has been going on since, FOREVER... but the FCC
got rid of 90% of the Field Operations Staff, back in the early 90's,
and there is no one listening, or enforcing, these rules on a regular
basis currently. Vhf Marine Radios have become very inexpensive, and
lots of folks find that they work a WHOLE LOT better than the FRS/GMRS
radios, that were intended for these uses, because of the Frequency that
they use. You can complain to the FCC in DC, but UNLESS they are
interfering with Emergency or Safety Communications, the Field Staff
really doesn't have the time, or ManPower, to deal with these types of
Violations. Maybe you should write a Letter to ALGORE, as he was the
DUFUS, that gutted the FCC Field Staff, with his "Reinvention of
Government" Program at the FCC, back in the 90's, as Vice President.

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"John Anderson" wrote:

In my area, Lee County, IA, we have coyote hunters using
marine channel 68. In Hancock County IL a similiar use of
marine channel 69 is occurring.

It has also been noted that truckers are using Marine ch 71
and ch. 19A in the Ft Madison IA area.

I wonder if any other posters have noticed such activity
on Marine channels?

John Anderson
West Point, Iowa

http://k0bkl.org/radio/coyote.htm


This type of stuff has been going on since, FOREVER... but the FCC
got rid of 90% of the Field Operations Staff, back in the early 90's,
and there is no one listening, or enforcing, these rules on a regular
basis currently. Vhf Marine Radios have become very inexpensive, and
lots of folks find that they work a WHOLE LOT better than the FRS/GMRS
radios, that were intended for these uses, because of the Frequency that
they use. You can complain to the FCC in DC, but UNLESS they are
interfering with Emergency or Safety Communications, the Field Staff
really doesn't have the time, or ManPower, to deal with these types of
Violations. Maybe you should write a Letter to ALGORE, as he was the
DUFUS, that gutted the FCC Field Staff, with his "Reinvention of
Government" Program at the FCC, back in the 90's, as Vice President.

http://k0bkl.topcities.com/coyote.htm

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"John Anderson" wrote in news:fo1ung$n5r$1
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This type of stuff has been going on since, FOREVER... but the FCC
got rid of 90% of the Field Operations Staff, back in the early 90's,
and there is no one listening, or enforcing, these rules on a regular
basis currently. Vhf Marine Radios have become very inexpensive, and
lots of folks find that they work a WHOLE LOT better than the

FRS/GMRS
radios, that were intended for these uses, because of the Frequency

that
they use. You can complain to the FCC in DC, but UNLESS they are
interfering with Emergency or Safety Communications, the Field Staff
really doesn't have the time, or ManPower, to deal with these types

of
Violations. Maybe you should write a Letter to ALGORE, as he was the
DUFUS, that gutted the FCC Field Staff, with his "Reinvention of
Government" Program at the FCC, back in the 90's, as Vice President.



When I was told, literally, to **** off by a boat dealer using marine
VHF to run his business at a boat show, I called FCC and talked to the
nice man who works in enforcement like Mr Hollingsworth. I gave him the
dealer's name, address, phone number, etc., to help him. I was amazed
when he called me back and said he'd had a conversation with the US
Marshall's office who visited the dealer. I guess the dealer didn't
tell the US Marshalls to **** off, like he did me. Because the dealer
wasn't FCC licensed, he didn't come under FCC jurisdiction, so they sent
the Marshalls. It must have worked. I don't hear them on Channel 12
any more....(c;

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When I was told, literally, to **** off by a boat dealer using marine
VHF to run his business at a boat show, I called FCC and talked to the
nice man who works in enforcement like Mr Hollingsworth. I gave him the
dealer's name, address, phone number, etc., to help him. I was amazed
when he called me back and said he'd had a conversation with the US
Marshall's office who visited the dealer. I guess the dealer didn't
tell the US Marshalls to **** off, like he did me. Because the dealer
wasn't FCC licensed, he didn't come under FCC jurisdiction, so they sent
the Marshalls. It must have worked. I don't hear them on Channel 12
any more



A local Marine towing outfit in Ft Madison, IA uses Channel 11
for their trucks running around town, or at least they did when
I worked down there.

I guess this is the new Citizens' Band ?




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"John Anderson" wrote in news:fo2cuh$v7v$1
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A local Marine towing outfit in Ft Madison, IA uses Channel 11
for their trucks running around town, or at least they did when
I worked down there.

I guess this is the new Citizens' Band ?




I knew someone in the pest control business in Greenville, SC, way up in
the mountains where the band is truly dead. He ran the pest control
business with Standard VHF marine radios for many years.

I can tell you this because they're all dead, now....

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In article ,
"John Anderson" wrote:

A local Marine towing outfit in Ft Madison, IA uses Channel 11
for their trucks running around town, or at least they did when
I worked down there.


There is another possible answer to the above situation. There IS
a Part 80 Classification of a Portable or Mobile Land Based Marine
VHF Station. It is called a Marine Utility Coast Station when on
Land and a Marine Utility Station when used on water. These are not
easy to acquire, but they do exist and I have held both at one time or
another. I have friends in the Marine Electronics Sales and Service
bizz, that have these and have had them for years. Also Ship Pilots
use these type Marine Licenses, for Portables, they use to communicate
with the Pilot Boats, Ships, and Tugs.

Bruce in alaska

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"John Anderson" wrote in news:fo1ung$n5r$1
@news.netins.net:

This type of stuff has been going on since, FOREVER... but the FCC
got rid of 90% of the Field Operations Staff, back in the early 90's,
and there is no one listening, or enforcing, these rules on a regular
basis currently. Vhf Marine Radios have become very inexpensive, and
lots of folks find that they work a WHOLE LOT better than the

FRS/GMRS
radios, that were intended for these uses, because of the Frequency

that
they use. You can complain to the FCC in DC, but UNLESS they are
interfering with Emergency or Safety Communications, the Field Staff
really doesn't have the time, or ManPower, to deal with these types

of
Violations. Maybe you should write a Letter to ALGORE, as he was the
DUFUS, that gutted the FCC Field Staff, with his "Reinvention of
Government" Program at the FCC, back in the 90's, as Vice President.



When I was told, literally, to **** off by a boat dealer using marine
VHF to run his business at a boat show, I called FCC and talked to the
nice man who works in enforcement like Mr Hollingsworth. I gave him the
dealer's name, address, phone number, etc., to help him. I was amazed
when he called me back and said he'd had a conversation with the US
Marshall's office who visited the dealer. I guess the dealer didn't
tell the US Marshalls to **** off, like he did me. Because the dealer
wasn't FCC licensed, he didn't come under FCC jurisdiction, so they sent
the Marshalls. It must have worked. I don't hear them on Channel 12
any more....(c;


FCC Field Agents do not have Arrest Powers, and if Criminal Charges are
likely, then they go to the US Marshal Service, for the "Big Stick" end
of the business, unless it happens to be a Marine Enforcement issue. Then
the local USCG is the the "BIG Stick" I have had occasion to use both,
when I was with the Commission as a Field Agent. And believe me, no one
argues with a US Marshal, when he is out on an Enforcement Mission, and
the same goes for a USCG Contingent.....

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On Fri, 1 Feb 2008 09:01:01 -0600, "John Anderson"
wrote:

In my area, Lee County, IA, we have coyote hunters using
marine channel 68. In Hancock County IL a similiar use of
marine channel 69 is occurring.

It has also been noted that truckers are using Marine ch 71
and ch. 19A in the Ft Madison IA area.

I wonder if any other posters have noticed such activity
on Marine channels?

John Anderson
West Point, Iowa


These users may be legal - you'd have to check the FCC frequency
allocations to be sure.

The marine VHF band is in the middle of the land mobile band - used by
taxis, trucking companies, and other commercial radio services.

Here in BC, it appears that the marine channels are only reserved for
marine use on the coast. Elsewhere in the province, there are land
mobile users assigned within the "marine" frequency range. (As the
channel spacing for land mobile is different than for marine, the land
users likely won't actually be on a marine channel, but will be close
enough to be heard, or to interfere.) There are a few marine channels
reserved for marine use on the interior lakes.


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These users may be legal - you'd have to check the FCC frequency
allocations to be sure.

The marine VHF band is in the middle of the land mobile band - used by
taxis, trucking companies, and other commercial radio services.

They use Channel 68 or 69 in my area.
Truckers have been heard on Ch. 71, and 19a

Looks like they are using Marine Channels according to
the FCC rules!

Oh, well, keeps them off the 10 meter ham bands!
A few years ago I heard outbanders on 28.085
griping about people throwing carriers, but the "carriers"
were hams on code transmission. With the tight bandwidth
of cw receivers, the hams were probaly not even aware of
the interlopers!





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