Land use of marine radios
 

In my area, Lee County, IA, we have coyote hunters using
marine channel 68. In Hancock County IL a similiar use of
marine channel 69 is occurring.

It has also been noted that truckers are using Marine ch 71
and ch. 19A in the Ft Madison IA area.

I wonder if any other posters have noticed such activity
on Marine channels?

John Anderson
West Point, Iowa

http://k0bkl.org/radio/coyote.htm

Land use of marine radios
 

In article ,
"John Anderson" wrote:

In my area, Lee County, IA, we have coyote hunters using
marine channel 68. In Hancock County IL a similiar use of
marine channel 69 is occurring.

It has also been noted that truckers are using Marine ch 71
and ch. 19A in the Ft Madison IA area.

I wonder if any other posters have noticed such activity
on Marine channels?

John Anderson
West Point, Iowa

http://k0bkl.org/radio/coyote.htm

This type of stuff has been going on since, FOREVER... but the FCC
got rid of 90% of the Field Operations Staff, back in the early 90's,
and there is no one listening, or enforcing, these rules on a regular
basis currently. Vhf Marine Radios have become very inexpensive, and
lots of folks find that they work a WHOLE LOT better than the FRS/GMRS
radios, that were intended for these uses, because of the Frequency that
they use. You can complain to the FCC in DC, but UNLESS they are
interfering with Emergency or Safety Communications, the Field Staff
really doesn't have the time, or ManPower, to deal with these types of
Violations. Maybe you should write a Letter to ALGORE, as he was the
DUFUS, that gutted the FCC Field Staff, with his "Reinvention of
Government" Program at the FCC, back in the 90's, as Vice President.

--
Bruce in alaska
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"Bruce in alaska" wrote in message
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In article ,
"John Anderson" wrote:

In my area, Lee County, IA, we have coyote hunters using
marine channel 68. In Hancock County IL a similiar use of
marine channel 69 is occurring.

It has also been noted that truckers are using Marine ch 71
and ch. 19A in the Ft Madison IA area.

I wonder if any other posters have noticed such activity
on Marine channels?

John Anderson
West Point, Iowa

http://k0bkl.org/radio/coyote.htm

This type of stuff has been going on since, FOREVER... but the FCC
got rid of 90% of the Field Operations Staff, back in the early 90's,
and there is no one listening, or enforcing, these rules on a regular
basis currently. Vhf Marine Radios have become very inexpensive, and
lots of folks find that they work a WHOLE LOT better than the FRS/GMRS
radios, that were intended for these uses, because of the Frequency that
they use. You can complain to the FCC in DC, but UNLESS they are
interfering with Emergency or Safety Communications, the Field Staff
really doesn't have the time, or ManPower, to deal with these types of
Violations. Maybe you should write a Letter to ALGORE, as he was the
DUFUS, that gutted the FCC Field Staff, with his "Reinvention of
Government" Program at the FCC, back in the 90's, as Vice President.

http://k0bkl.topcities.com/coyote.htm

I moved the page.

Land use of marine radios
 

"John Anderson" wrote in news:fo1ung$n5r$1
@news.netins.net:

This type of stuff has been going on since, FOREVER... but the FCC
got rid of 90% of the Field Operations Staff, back in the early 90's,
and there is no one listening, or enforcing, these rules on a regular
basis currently. Vhf Marine Radios have become very inexpensive, and
lots of folks find that they work a WHOLE LOT better than the
FRS/GMRS
radios, that were intended for these uses, because of the Frequency
that
they use. You can complain to the FCC in DC, but UNLESS they are
interfering with Emergency or Safety Communications, the Field Staff
really doesn't have the time, or ManPower, to deal with these types
of
Violations. Maybe you should write a Letter to ALGORE, as he was the
DUFUS, that gutted the FCC Field Staff, with his "Reinvention of
Government" Program at the FCC, back in the 90's, as Vice President.


When I was told, literally, to **** off by a boat dealer using marine
VHF to run his business at a boat show, I called FCC and talked to the
nice man who works in enforcement like Mr Hollingsworth. I gave him the
dealer's name, address, phone number, etc., to help him. I was amazed
when he called me back and said he'd had a conversation with the US
Marshall's office who visited the dealer. I guess the dealer didn't
tell the US Marshalls to **** off, like he did me. Because the dealer
wasn't FCC licensed, he didn't come under FCC jurisdiction, so they sent
the Marshalls. It must have worked. I don't hear them on Channel 12
any more....(c;

Land use of marine radios
 

On Fri, 1 Feb 2008 09:01:01 -0600, "John Anderson"
wrote:

In my area, Lee County, IA, we have coyote hunters using
marine channel 68. In Hancock County IL a similiar use of
marine channel 69 is occurring.

It has also been noted that truckers are using Marine ch 71
and ch. 19A in the Ft Madison IA area.

I wonder if any other posters have noticed such activity
on Marine channels?

John Anderson
West Point, Iowa

These users may be legal - you'd have to check the FCC frequency
allocations to be sure.

The marine VHF band is in the middle of the land mobile band - used by
taxis, trucking companies, and other commercial radio services.

Here in BC, it appears that the marine channels are only reserved for
marine use on the coast. Elsewhere in the province, there are land
mobile users assigned within the "marine" frequency range. (As the
channel spacing for land mobile is different than for marine, the land
users likely won't actually be on a marine channel, but will be close
enough to be heard, or to interfere.) There are a few marine channels
reserved for marine use on the interior lakes.


--
Peter Bennett, VE7CEI
peterbb4 (at) interchange.ubc.ca
GPS and NMEA info: http://vancouver-webpages.com/peter
Vancouver Power Squadron: http://vancouver.powersquadron.ca

Land use of marine radios
 

When I was told, literally, to **** off by a boat dealer using marine
VHF to run his business at a boat show, I called FCC and talked to the
nice man who works in enforcement like Mr Hollingsworth. I gave him the
dealer's name, address, phone number, etc., to help him. I was amazed
when he called me back and said he'd had a conversation with the US
Marshall's office who visited the dealer. I guess the dealer didn't
tell the US Marshalls to **** off, like he did me. Because the dealer
wasn't FCC licensed, he didn't come under FCC jurisdiction, so they sent
the Marshalls. It must have worked. I don't hear them on Channel 12
any more


A local Marine towing outfit in Ft Madison, IA uses Channel 11
for their trucks running around town, or at least they did when
I worked down there.

I guess this is the new Citizens' Band ?

Land use of marine radios
 

These users may be legal - you'd have to check the FCC frequency
allocations to be sure.

The marine VHF band is in the middle of the land mobile band - used by
taxis, trucking companies, and other commercial radio services.

They use Channel 68 or 69 in my area.
Truckers have been heard on Ch. 71, and 19a

Looks like they are using Marine Channels according to
the FCC rules!

Oh, well, keeps them off the 10 meter ham bands!
A few years ago I heard outbanders on 28.085
griping about people throwing carriers, but the "carriers"
were hams on code transmission. With the tight bandwidth
of cw receivers, the hams were probaly not even aware of
the interlopers!

Land use of marine radios
 

In article ,
Larry wrote:

"John Anderson" wrote in news:fo1ung$n5r$1
@news.netins.net:

This type of stuff has been going on since, FOREVER... but the FCC
got rid of 90% of the Field Operations Staff, back in the early 90's,
and there is no one listening, or enforcing, these rules on a regular
basis currently. Vhf Marine Radios have become very inexpensive, and
lots of folks find that they work a WHOLE LOT better than the
FRS/GMRS
radios, that were intended for these uses, because of the Frequency
that
they use. You can complain to the FCC in DC, but UNLESS they are
interfering with Emergency or Safety Communications, the Field Staff
really doesn't have the time, or ManPower, to deal with these types
of
Violations. Maybe you should write a Letter to ALGORE, as he was the
DUFUS, that gutted the FCC Field Staff, with his "Reinvention of
Government" Program at the FCC, back in the 90's, as Vice President.


When I was told, literally, to **** off by a boat dealer using marine
VHF to run his business at a boat show, I called FCC and talked to the
nice man who works in enforcement like Mr Hollingsworth. I gave him the
dealer's name, address, phone number, etc., to help him. I was amazed
when he called me back and said he'd had a conversation with the US
Marshall's office who visited the dealer. I guess the dealer didn't
tell the US Marshalls to **** off, like he did me. Because the dealer
wasn't FCC licensed, he didn't come under FCC jurisdiction, so they sent
the Marshalls. It must have worked. I don't hear them on Channel 12
any more....(c;

FCC Field Agents do not have Arrest Powers, and if Criminal Charges are
likely, then they go to the US Marshal Service, for the "Big Stick" end
of the business, unless it happens to be a Marine Enforcement issue. Then
the local USCG is the the "BIG Stick" I have had occasion to use both,
when I was with the Commission as a Field Agent. And believe me, no one
argues with a US Marshal, when he is out on an Enforcement Mission, and
the same goes for a USCG Contingent.....

--
Bruce in alaska
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In article .com,
Peter Bennett wrote:

These users may be legal - you'd have to check the FCC frequency
allocations to be sure.

Peter is right, in this case. There are "Some" Limited geographic
locations, in the US, where the FCC HAS, granted Special Operations
Licenses for non-Marine uses of Marine Frequencies. None of these
type Permits, are allowed on Calling, Safety, Navigation, and Distress
Frequencies, as per International Convention, that the US IS signatory
to. Most of these Permits are limited to Specific Areas , where there
are NO Navigable Waters, within 120 Miles in any direction from
the perimeter of the Designated Area of Operation as specified on
the Station License. Station Licenses and Station CALLSIGN
Identification are REQUIRED, as per Station Licensing, and FCC Rule.

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Bruce in alaska
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On Sat, 2 Feb 2008 12:36:55 -0600, "John Anderson"
wrote:


These users may be legal - you'd have to check the FCC frequency
allocations to be sure.

The marine VHF band is in the middle of the land mobile band - used by
taxis, trucking companies, and other commercial radio services.

They use Channel 68 or 69 in my area.
Truckers have been heard on Ch. 71, and 19a

Looks like they are using Marine Channels according to
the FCC rules!

Not necessarily - they could be using assigned land mobile frequencies
that happen to be close enough to those marine channels that they can
be heard on a standard marine radio. As I said, you'd have to check
to see if the FCC has any land mobile allocations close to those
marine channels for use in your area.


Oh, well, keeps them off the 10 meter ham bands!
A few years ago I heard outbanders on 28.085
griping about people throwing carriers, but the "carriers"
were hams on code transmission. With the tight bandwidth
of cw receivers, the hams were probaly not even aware of
the interlopers!



--
Peter Bennett, VE7CEI
peterbb4 (at) interchange.ubc.ca
GPS and NMEA info: http://vancouver-webpages.com/peter
Vancouver Power Squadron: http://vancouver.powersquadron.ca