On Sat, 2 Feb 2008 12:36:55 -0600, "John Anderson"
wrote:


These users may be legal - you'd have to check the FCC frequency
allocations to be sure.

The marine VHF band is in the middle of the land mobile band - used by
taxis, trucking companies, and other commercial radio services.

They use Channel 68 or 69 in my area.
Truckers have been heard on Ch. 71, and 19a

Looks like they are using Marine Channels according to
the FCC rules!

Not necessarily - they could be using assigned land mobile frequencies
that happen to be close enough to those marine channels that they can
be heard on a standard marine radio. As I said, you'd have to check
to see if the FCC has any land mobile allocations close to those
marine channels for use in your area.


Oh, well, keeps them off the 10 meter ham bands!
A few years ago I heard outbanders on 28.085
griping about people throwing carriers, but the "carriers"
were hams on code transmission. With the tight bandwidth
of cw receivers, the hams were probaly not even aware of
the interlopers!



--
Peter Bennett, VE7CEI
peterbb4 (at) interchange.ubc.ca
GPS and NMEA info: http://vancouver-webpages.com/peter
Vancouver Power Squadron: http://vancouver.powersquadron.ca

They use Channel 68 or 69 in my area.
Truckers have been heard on Ch. 71, and 19a

Looks like they are using Marine Channels according to
the FCC rules!

Not necessarily - they could be using assigned land mobile frequencies
that happen to be close enough to those marine channels that they can
be heard on a standard marine radio. As I said, you'd have to check
to see if the FCC has any land mobile allocations close to those
marine channels for use in your area.

They are using marine radios on marine channels.
A ham friend of mine has talked to them.
They are arguing that they don't need licenses,
and indeed, if the FCC does not have the money or
manpower to go after them, then this activity, like the
mess on CB will become legal by default!

"John Anderson" wrote in news:fo2d8d$vgh$1
@news.netins.net:

Oh, well, keeps them off the 10 meter ham bands!
A few years ago I heard outbanders on 28.085
griping about people throwing carriers, but the "carriers"
were hams on code transmission. With the tight bandwidth
of cw receivers, the hams were probaly not even aware of
the interlopers!



All hams have to do is force the stupid ARRL goats to change the 10M
bandplan to stop it all. Reserve the bottom 500Khz 28.0-28.5 for
REPEATER outputs on NBFM...and reserve the top 500 Khz 29.2-29.7 for
REPEATER INPUTS away from the CBer equipment. Powerhouse FM repeater
outputs would easily keep the bottom end of 10M clear of SSB CBers, and
we'd have GREAT FM repeater fun on the mostly-dead 10 meter band.
There's plenty of room IN THE MIDDLE of 10M, away from the CB pirates,
for the simplex stuff...CW, SSB, etc.

Of course, stoic CW operators moving above the bottom 20 Khz of the band
would simply have a heart attack over such a LOGICAL move....

10M FM repeaters are loads of fun, especially when the band is open!
29.620 repeater in Puerto Rico had great coverage over the whole East
Coast and Caribbean for years.

Sadly, Robert KD4PBC, who is a paging engineer by trade and was a paging
company owner for years, here, THREW A PERFECTLY GOOD QUINTRON 500 WATT
10M REPEATER INTO THE DUMPSTER, all crystalled up with hi stability
precision oscillators and all in mint condition. Noone would put it on
the air and he didn't have time. Very sad...pathetically so....

73 DE LARRY W4CSC Charleston, SC.

Larry wrote:

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Sadly, Robert KD4PBC, who is a paging engineer by trade and was a paging
company owner for years, here, THREW A PERFECTLY GOOD QUINTRON 500 WATT
10M REPEATER INTO THE DUMPSTER, all crystalled up with hi stability
precision oscillators and all in mint condition. Noone would put it on
the air and he didn't have time. Very sad...pathetically so....

Why on earth would anyone do this except out of some emotional disturbance?
Goodwill, Hamfests, donations, and even eBay are all easy alternatives.

Michael

msg wrote in
:

Larry wrote:

snip

Sadly, Robert KD4PBC, who is a paging engineer by trade and was a
paging company owner for years, here, THREW A PERFECTLY GOOD QUINTRON
500 WATT 10M REPEATER INTO THE DUMPSTER, all crystalled up with hi
stability precision oscillators and all in mint condition. Noone
would put it on the air and he didn't have time. Very
sad...pathetically so....

Why on earth would anyone do this except out of some emotional
disturbance? Goodwill, Hamfests, donations, and even eBay are all easy
alternatives.

Michael


Hurried move to start new job. He had to move a whole business very
quickly and abandoned lots of stuff.

In article .com,
Peter Bennett wrote:

These users may be legal - you'd have to check the FCC frequency
allocations to be sure.

Peter is right, in this case. There are "Some" Limited geographic
locations, in the US, where the FCC HAS, granted Special Operations
Licenses for non-Marine uses of Marine Frequencies. None of these
type Permits, are allowed on Calling, Safety, Navigation, and Distress
Frequencies, as per International Convention, that the US IS signatory
to. Most of these Permits are limited to Specific Areas , where there
are NO Navigable Waters, within 120 Miles in any direction from
the perimeter of the Designated Area of Operation as specified on
the Station License. Station Licenses and Station CALLSIGN
Identification are REQUIRED, as per Station Licensing, and FCC Rule.

--
Bruce in alaska
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On Feb 1, 7:01*am, "John Anderson" wrote:
In my area, Lee County, IA, we have coyote hunters using
marine channel 68. In Hancock County IL a similiar use of
marine channel 69 is occurring.

It has also been noted that truckers are using Marine ch 71
and ch. 19A in the Ft Madison IA area.

Indeed. In the deserts east of southern California, Marine VHF
radios are becoming commonplace amongst the off-road vehicles crowd.
One club in Palm Springs actually *requires* them in order to join.
They jump frequencies and never say anything that would identify
themselves, so they know it's not legal.