On 27 Jul 2006 12:15:00 -0700, "Queeg" wrote:

I bought the USB WiFi NUB-362. I am about to order the Hawking
Omni-Directional 9dBi outdoor antenna kit.

I assumed that the Omni-Directional antenna would be mounted on my
boat, cabled to the USB WiFi NUB-362. But in reading the description,
it appears that the Omni-Directional antenna emits, and does not
receive. Will it work with the USB WiFi NUB-362 to receive?

The antenna will both transmit and receive, no problem.

I assume you got the NUB-362EXT? You need the EXT model to attach an
external antenna.

I assume you got the NUB-362EXT? You need the EXT model to attach an
external antenna.


Hello Wayne,

Yes, I ordered the EXT. Will send a report in a month when the new
boat is launched.

Thanks for the help.

Gary

Nice thing about it is that it is about half the size of a pack of
cigarettes so you can tuck it away close to the antenna and eliminate a lot
of coax loss.

--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
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"Queeg" wrote in message
oups.com...

I assume you got the NUB-362EXT? You need the EXT model to attach an
external antenna.


Hello Wayne,

Yes, I ordered the EXT. Will send a report in a month when the new
boat is launched.

Thanks for the help.

Gary

"Glenn Ashmore" wrote in message
news:1unyg.1370$ok5.80@dukeread01...
Nice thing about it is that it is about half the size of a pack of
cigarettes so you can tuck it away close to the antenna and eliminate a
lot of coax loss.

--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com



Hi, Glenn, and group, - leaving the others below for context:

I'm about to return full time, with Lydia, to the boat. She's finally
signed on to the merits of my spending the time to achieve wifi
connectivity, so that will be one of the things which is on our to-do list
before we head out, instead of relegated to the back of the bus.

However, my goal has been to be able to do this wirelessly. That is, not
running antenna cable or ethernet from my computer to the top of the mast.
To be able to use the laptop (and presumably anyone else who could see the
signal do so as well, a benefit to other cruisers if I can make my system
work, which I've so far failed to do), unconnected

Has anyone succeeded in that? That is, whatever and however it's done, you
sit with your laptop wherever you like, fire up your configuration tool
(WZC, or some other vendor's, like my Hawking external antenna/adapter came
with, e.g.), and click on the site you want to try?

Alternatively, and the reason for this post/reply, I came to this party
late, having been fully occupied with departure from land, so don't know
what we're talking about WRT ciggie pax and how they're powered, etc.

My other gear, with which I've been wrestling for more than a year,
supposedly works, based on other users' experience, to the degree that, once
set up per location, and said setup done wirelessly by configuring the wifi
nic to the same net sets as the gear, you and anyone else who can see the
signal can use it to surf the SSID you've associated. That setup routine's a
pain in the neck but better than being tethered. However, I've yet to make
it happen successfully. I either can't interrogate them wirelessly, or I
get IP conflicts in DHCP, or both, and many knowledgeable folks, including
successful users of similar setups (not on a sailboat, but otherwise
electronically identical), have tried to assist me in the resolution, to no
avail.

OTOH, if I want to use my Vonage unit (the thing which outputs the POTS
signal to the rj11 output, a benefit to being able to wander with handset in
hand vs tied to the unit or some other output point) I need an ethernet
connection, anyway, so perhaps having a router or something similar in the
boat, with its associated wifi, rj45 and POTS outputs, will be required
anyway.

So, this is really several questions: Has anyone had successful achievement
of my target (suggested to be no, as otherwise why all the wired
solutions?)?; what means of achieving my target but allowing wires (coax
runs are not in my vocabulary due to the loss experienced)?; and, a new one
suggested in other threads by Glenn, elsewhere - if I don't need height, but
have this antenna farm already on the stern, with power available there, on
the arch about 13' or so off the water, would I be well served to put my
something up there, lessening the weight-aloft issues, should there be any,
instead of atop the mast?

The problem I have had all along with anything other than mast-top has been
interference. The mast, the various other antennae, the backstay, the wind
generator, and perhaps other things, would all be in the line of sight of
this antenna from time to time if I put it there. OTOH, with my 8.5dBi omni
stick on the top of the mast, with a slight downtilt (what I bought in the
other gear), I'd be over most of the other interference, and at the
distances involved, would have a pattern which painted a great deal of the
shore vertical space, allowing me to see homes looking out over the water,
my presumed likely source of signals I'd use.

So, putting all my begs in one ask-it, any help for the truly clueless (I
thought I had a clue, but if I ever did, I have learned that it jumped ship
somewhere along the way)?

L8R

Skip

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"Queeg" wrote in message
oups.com...

I assume you got the NUB-362EXT? You need the EXT model to attach an
external antenna.


Hello Wayne,

Yes, I ordered the EXT. Will send a report in a month when the new
boat is launched.

Thanks for the help.

Gary

On Sun, 30 Jul 2006 09:07:31 -0400, "Skip Gundlach" skipgundlach at
gmail dotcom wrote:

However, my goal has been to be able to do this wirelessly. That is, not
running antenna cable or ethernet from my computer to the top of the mast.

Skip, won't you need to run power wiring up the mast at the very
least, even if you can find the right type of repeater/bridge that you
are looking for?

If so, I'd just go with Cat-5 cable up the mast, and a POE (Power Over
Ethernet) device.

The unit which I just purchased, and am getting really good results
with, is a USB device which gets its power via the USB port and cable.
It is feeding a 9 db omni vertical which is relatively near a lot of
other "stuff" including a mast, 2 radar scanners, hoisting boom with
tackle, 2 VHF antennas, a second WiFi antenna, and a SSB antenna.
Even with all that, I am getting very good coverage.

Hi, Wayne, and thanks for the note. To simplify, I'll clip mostly....

Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 30 Jul 2006 09:07:31 -0400, "Skip Gundlach" skipgundlach at
gmail dotcom wrote:

However, my goal has been to be able to do this wirelessly. That is, not
running antenna cable or ethernet from my computer to the top of the mast.

I'll have to power the unit(s) one way or the other. My goal was to be
untethered; power doesn't need my computer.

However, I have some doubt that it really can be done - despite the
folks over in alt.internet.wireless which has been very vocal in (well
one of them, anyway) saying that it can be done with exactly the gear I
have, including one who's done it multiple times for things like ski
resorts (put the gear on the top of the mountain).

I've sort of been nibbling around the edges of success but always get
bitten back by either failure to communicate (can't configure once
unhooked from ethernet) or IP conflicts.

If I have to go with a wire of some sort, I'm happy with the
directional results, over an active USB extension, of my Hawking unit
which I hang under my dodger. I'm not at all happy with the run/route,
but it's ok for on the hard where I'll still be for several/many weeks.

So, perhaps some weatherproof omnidirectional unit over usb would
suffice if I have to give up. I wish there were some outfit which made
an active usb cable in a single jump. I'm not happy about the thought
of daisy chaining the requisite 5 of them together to put it at the top
of the mast. OTOH, if I don't have to go to the top, and can make it so
I just don't hide directly behind the mast, perhaps I could get away
with putting it out the back. That would only be ~40 or so run, but
getting the wire (without building the cable in situ) through the arch
and back to the nav would be challenging at best, and perhaps
impossible, as we've got an awful lot going there already, and it's
only a 2" tube in the legs...

So, what name/number product do you have?

Thanks.

L8R

Skip