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Bjarke,
No they don't. Most yacht units force you to use their fluxgate compass as a
heading input. Commercial units have a selector function and they can accept
step, sine/cosine, servo/resolver and others. The yacht unit I have seen
only use their own fluxgate. That's why I asked the question.
Steve

"Bjarke Christensen" (nej, det skal selvfølgelig
være med K da jeg er dansker) wrote in message
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Dont most of them do both? Their own proprietary and plain nmea...

Bjarke


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Who makes a good autopilot that doesn't use a propriatory bus? Need a
plain vanilla type nmea type.
Thanks
Gordon
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Steve Lusardi wrote:
Bjarke,
No they don't. Most yacht units force you to use their fluxgate compass as a
heading input. Commercial units have a selector function and they can accept
step, sine/cosine, servo/resolver and others. The yacht unit I have seen
only use their own fluxgate. That's why I asked the question.
Steve


As mentioned earlier the Raymarine corepacks do NOT need their own
fluxgate and WILL accept heading from NMEA, including fast heading (10
msg/s) from a decent source. They also accept analog heading change from
a gyro, but at a fixed input voltage/degree/sec.

Just curious -- which "yacht units" have you seen that only use their
own fluxgate that are suited to be rigged with external pumps?

--
Kees

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Brooks and Gatehouse for one. The B&G units have there own fluxgate and
unique interface with no facility for an external HDG source. For your
information, most Gyros do not have Sine/Cosine outputs. They can be had as
options, but are VERY expensive. This is true for SPERRY and ANSCHUTZ for
sure. Sine/Cosine is the standard interface for a fluxgate though. Gyros use
3phase Step (Commercial) and Servo/Resolver (Military). Commercial
autopilots have a select feature to use multiple inputs for HDG on a
selector switch like Gyro 1, Gyro 2, Sat Compass, etc, as well as the
ability to configure for each one. Thanks for the Raymarine tip though, as I
recall, Raymarine has 2 lines, commercial and yacht. Do the yacht models
have the NMEA HDG input as well?
Steve

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Steve Lusardi wrote:
Bjarke,
No they don't. Most yacht units force you to use their fluxgate compass
as a heading input. Commercial units have a selector function and they
can accept step, sine/cosine, servo/resolver and others. The yacht unit I
have seen only use their own fluxgate. That's why I asked the question.
Steve


As mentioned earlier the Raymarine corepacks do NOT need their own
fluxgate and WILL accept heading from NMEA, including fast heading (10
msg/s) from a decent source. They also accept analog heading change from a
gyro, but at a fixed input voltage/degree/sec.

Just curious -- which "yacht units" have you seen that only use their own
fluxgate that are suited to be rigged with external pumps?

--
Kees



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Yes this is correct the B&G ACP1 and ACP2 does not have NMEA heading input.
But, in a B&G system it is possible to connect NMEA heading to:
1. the main processor (new type)
2. a NMEA FFD
3. performance processor
4. a gyro processor

TomS

"Steve Lusardi" wrote in message
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Brooks and Gatehouse for one. The B&G units have there own fluxgate and
unique interface with no facility for an external HDG source. For your
information, most Gyros do not have Sine/Cosine outputs. They can be had
as options, but are VERY expensive. This is true for SPERRY and ANSCHUTZ
for sure. Sine/Cosine is the standard interface for a fluxgate though.
Gyros use 3phase Step (Commercial) and Servo/Resolver (Military).
Commercial autopilots have a select feature to use multiple inputs for HDG
on a selector switch like Gyro 1, Gyro 2, Sat Compass, etc, as well as the
ability to configure for each one. Thanks for the Raymarine tip though, as
I recall, Raymarine has 2 lines, commercial and yacht. Do the yacht models
have the NMEA HDG input as well?
Steve

"Kees Verruijt" wrote in message
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Steve Lusardi wrote:
Bjarke,
No they don't. Most yacht units force you to use their fluxgate compass
as a heading input. Commercial units have a selector function and they
can accept step, sine/cosine, servo/resolver and others. The yacht unit
I have seen only use their own fluxgate. That's why I asked the
question.
Steve


As mentioned earlier the Raymarine corepacks do NOT need their own
fluxgate and WILL accept heading from NMEA, including fast heading (10
msg/s) from a decent source. They also accept analog heading change from
a gyro, but at a fixed input voltage/degree/sec.

Just curious -- which "yacht units" have you seen that only use their own
fluxgate that are suited to be rigged with external pumps?

--
Kees





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Here is another news flash, it appears Raymarine also does not accept
external HDG input according to their catalog. It appears Furuno does, but
the input is proprietary for their SC50 Sat Compass.
Steve

"Kees Verruijt" wrote in message
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Steve Lusardi wrote:
Bjarke,
No they don't. Most yacht units force you to use their fluxgate compass
as a heading input. Commercial units have a selector function and they
can accept step, sine/cosine, servo/resolver and others. The yacht unit I
have seen only use their own fluxgate. That's why I asked the question.
Steve


As mentioned earlier the Raymarine corepacks do NOT need their own
fluxgate and WILL accept heading from NMEA, including fast heading (10
msg/s) from a decent source. They also accept analog heading change from a
gyro, but at a fixed input voltage/degree/sec.

Just curious -- which "yacht units" have you seen that only use their own
fluxgate that are suited to be rigged with external pumps?

--
Kees





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Steve Lusardi wrote:
Here is another news flash, it appears Raymarine also does not accept
external HDG input according to their catalog. It appears Furuno does, but
the input is proprietary for their SC50 Sat Compass.
Steve


I don't know where you are getting your information from, but the manual
for the 150/150G/400/400G autopilot course computers
http://www.raymarine.com/raymarine/S...150_400_CC.pdf
explicitly says on page 45 (PDF count) / page 36 (paper) that HDG, HDM
and HDT are accepted as inputs on NMEA inputs 1 and 2.

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Kees

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Kees,
Thanks for the reference. This info is NOT in the current catalog.
Steve

"Kees Verruijt" wrote in message
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Steve Lusardi wrote:
Here is another news flash, it appears Raymarine also does not accept
external HDG input according to their catalog. It appears Furuno does,
but the input is proprietary for their SC50 Sat Compass.
Steve


I don't know where you are getting your information from, but the manual
for the 150/150G/400/400G autopilot course computers
http://www.raymarine.com/raymarine/S...150_400_CC.pdf
explicitly says on page 45 (PDF count) / page 36 (paper) that HDG, HDM and
HDT are accepted as inputs on NMEA inputs 1 and 2.

--
Kees



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