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Raymarine Seatalk
I'd like to interface my raymarine instruments to a PC without having to
install (and pay for ) a Seatalk to NMEA interface box. Are the Seatalk specs available anywhere? Tony MS -- .. |
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Found the answer - http://www.thomasknauf.de/seatalk.htm
-- .. "Tony MS" wrote in message news:... I'd like to interface my raymarine instruments to a PC without having to install (and pay for ) a Seatalk to NMEA interface box. Are the Seatalk specs available anywhere? Tony MS -- .. |
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"Tony MS" wrote in
: http://www.thomasknauf.de/seatalk.htm Thank you for the link. I didn't have that one.... Don'tcha just love it when they invert the data and try to obscure everything just so noone's proprietary equipment will talk to each other without paying extra for inter-operability punishments. ETHERNET - ETHERNET - TCP/IP - TCP/IP - ETHERNET - ETHERNET.....SOONER THE BETTER! Lots of talkers on every LAN, all with addressable control. |
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Larry W4CSC wrote:
"Tony MS" wrote in : http://www.thomasknauf.de/seatalk.htm Thank you for the link. I didn't have that one.... Don'tcha just love it when they invert the data and try to obscure everything just so noone's proprietary equipment will talk to each other without paying extra for inter-operability punishments. ETHERNET - ETHERNET - TCP/IP - TCP/IP - ETHERNET - ETHERNET.....SOONER THE BETTER! Lots of talkers on every LAN, all with addressable control. I lost my latest interrupt driven Seatalk viewer in a laptop crash and as I was concentrating on getting timestamped realtime logging going so I could work on a Windows version (I only have occasional access to the Seatalk as it's on a yacht I crew on and the owner has a don't mess with critical systems in the season policy :-) ) Its not too tough to crack and a week on board, mostly in a marina berth (or maybe swinging at anchor would be better), with a laptop hooked up as per Thomas Knauf's diagram, a C compiler, a driver that allows direct serial port access and a berth full of programming books :-) will let you get a multifunction repeater going. It would be worth checking out something like a microcontroller development kit that can easily bridge from the 9 bit protocol to PC USB as the number of laptops with a true hardware serial port is rapidly declining. http://www.chipcatalog.com/Cypress/CY7C64613.htm looks interesting (8051 + USB, program loadable via USB from PC) and there are others. Seatalk/NMEA 0183 programmable hub with USB monitoring, anyone? -- Ian Malcolm. London, ENGLAND. (NEWSGROUP REPLY PREFERRED) ianm[at]the[dash]malcolms[dot]freeserve[dot]co[dot]uk [at]=@, [dash]=- & [dot]=. *Warning* HTML & 32K emails -- NUL: 'Stingo' Albacore #1554 - 15' Early 60's, Uffa Fox designed, All varnished hot moulded wooden racing dinghy. |
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"Larry W4CSC" wrote in message
... "Tony MS" wrote in : http://www.thomasknauf.de/seatalk.htm Thank you for the link. I didn't have that one.... Don'tcha just love it when they invert the data and try to obscure everything just so noone's proprietary equipment will talk to each other without paying extra for inter-operability punishments. Coincidentally this is not the reason with Raymarine. First of all, there's no paying involved because Ray keeps the protocol to themselves. But, for a very good reason: they claim that their equipment is safe and that you can rely on it, no matter what. The moment they allow someone else on "their" Seatalk bus, they cannot hold that claim anymore because they're dependent on someone elses reliability. You wouldn't believe the amount of testing they did on my multiplexers in order to become an approved supplier to them. Meindert |
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"Ian Malcolm" wrote in message
... others. Seatalk/NMEA 0183 programmable hub with USB monitoring, anyone? You mean as in my multiplexer with USB port and seatalk translation :-) ? It also dumps unknown Seatalk datagrams in a proprietary NMEA sentence format as hex numbers. Meindert |
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"Ian Malcolm" wrote in message
... Well, I did'nt know you had that feature set :-) I can't find which multiplexer at http://www.shipmodul.com/ has that feature set (I haven't bothered downloading all the manuals). Perhaps you could post a link or at least a model number or is it still under development? Although not adevertised yet on my site, all -41 models have it. And within a few weeks the -42 models as well. I mention it on the -41 page, but forgot to copy that text to the -41USB and -41BT pages, as one of my customers pointed out to me yesterday :-( Meindert |
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Meindert Sprang wrote:
"Ian Malcolm" wrote in message ... others. Seatalk/NMEA 0183 programmable hub with USB monitoring, anyone? You mean as in my multiplexer with USB port and seatalk translation :-) ? It also dumps unknown Seatalk datagrams in a proprietary NMEA sentence format as hex numbers. Meindert Well, I did'nt know you had that feature set :-) I can't find which multiplexer at http://www.shipmodul.com/ has that feature set (I haven't bothered downloading all the manuals). Perhaps you could post a link or at least a model number or is it still under development? -- Ian Malcolm. London, ENGLAND. (NEWSGROUP REPLY PREFERRED) ianm[at]the[dash]malcolms[dot]freeserve[dot]co[dot]uk [at]=@, [dash]=- & [dot]=. *Warning* HTML & 32K emails -- NUL: 'Stingo' Albacore #1554 - 15' Early 60's, Uffa Fox designed, All varnished hot moulded wooden racing dinghy. |
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Ian Malcolm wrote in
: It would be worth checking out something like a microcontroller development kit that can easily bridge from the 9 bit protocol to PC USB as the number of laptops with a true hardware serial port is rapidly declining. http://www.chipcatalog.com/Cypress/CY7C64613.htm looks interesting (8051 + USB, program loadable via USB from PC) and there are others. Seatalk/NMEA 0183 programmable hub with USB monitoring, anyone? Aboard the boat, I have installed a Webfoot... http://www.stayonline.com/serial_to_ethernet/3311.asp It interfaces the NMEA multiplexer's (not Mindert's unfortunately) serial port to my beloved Ethernet LAN, and is plugged into one port of a Netgear Wireless Router's 4-port hub. Seatalk to NMEA conversion is done by the RL-70CRC Color radar/chartplotter display unit. Simply turn on all the statements to the NMEA output you want converted from any Seatalk instrument, at least any we have aboard...Raymarine GPS receiver, Raymarine Gyro/compass sensor, the display's chart plotter outputs... Webfoot came with a virtual serial port software that lets the wirelessly- connected notebook connect The Cap'n to the serial port the Webfoot is connected to quite seamlessly. The Cap'n just thinks it has a live serial port on the NMEA network. Of course, I can also use just any serial data monitor or logger to read or store what the Webfoot is looking at, too. I've never had more than one computer aboard, so can't say whether the Webfoot will send/receive the serial data to more than one station on the LAN at a time. I'll have to try to remember to look that possibility up when I'm alone on the boat with time on my hands. Not being tied down is a real boon, as long as the Compaq Latitude has 12V available to extend its battery runtime. You can navigate and have control of the B&G Network Pilot autopilot from anyplace on the boat with it. If you're anchored out, you can leave the appropriate sensor online and carry the notebook ashore to monitor its parameter, such as depth or wind from the beach laying on a blanket. I want to try to see if we can read the boat's network from the bar at the yacht club, now that we've moved it to what should be in range....(c; Since I got the Webfoot, there's been lots of new serial to Ethernet boxes show up. I suppose they can do the same thing. |
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"Meindert Sprang" wrote in
: You wouldn't believe the amount of testing they did on my multiplexers in order to become an approved supplier to them. Meindert Wish they had done that much testing on our 2KW radome. Then they could have fixed it so the damned thing didn't FILL UP WITH WATER AND ROT THE CHEAP POTMETAL BOX THE RADAR IS MOUNTED IN! As you may tell, I'm not really impressed by Raymarine any more. It's NOT a Raytheon. |
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