This is not my problem, because I have a GpsMap76 and a GpsMap
276C with BlueChart, but I have the folowing question for a friend:

"If I have a laptop PC and wish to use it to plan and navigate real
time using MapSource BlueChart and the new nRoute, but I have an old
Garmin Gps Receiver that is not a mapping unit, like the G12XL or the
old yelow eTrex, or if I have a old mapping unit like GIII+, all of
wich are not "BlueChart Compatible" in the sense that these units
cannot have Mapsource Blue chart maps loaded on its memory, it would
still be possible to buy a BlueChart CD, and unlock it to these gps
units? This will work?"

Thanks

Pascal

P.S. Any expereinces with the new firmaware 2.94 Beta on GpsMap276C?

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This is not my problem, because I have a GpsMap76 and a GpsMap
276C with BlueChart, but I have the folowing question for a friend:

"If I have a laptop PC and wish to use it to plan and navigate real
time using MapSource BlueChart and the new nRoute, but I have an old
Garmin Gps Receiver that is not a mapping unit, like the G12XL or the
old yelow eTrex, or if I have a old mapping unit like GIII+, all of
wich are not "BlueChart Compatible" in the sense that these units
cannot have Mapsource Blue chart maps loaded on its memory, it would
still be possible to buy a BlueChart CD, and unlock it to these gps
units? This will work?"

Thanks

Pascal

P.S. Any expereinces with the new firmaware 2.94 Beta on GpsMap276C?

It depends whether the Blue Chart CD software is compatible to run with the
OS, be it Windows or Linux etc. If the stuff on the CD is only compatible to
run on one of the enhanced-memory Garmins, I doubt whether it would run on a
laptop.

There are many excellent PC/laptop GPS programmes, but not compatible as far
as I know with Blue Charts.

Anyway lots of other charts are available, so why bother with Blue Charts?


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On Sat, 04 Dec 2004 10:29:46 GMT, "Dennis Pogson"
wrote:

It depends whether the Blue Chart CD software is compatible to run
with the OS, be it Windows or Linux etc. If the stuff on the CD is
only compatible to run on one of the enhanced-memory Garmins, I
doubt whether it would run on a laptop.

There are many excellent PC/laptop GPS programmes, but not
compatible as far as I know with Blue Charts.

Anyway lots of other charts are available, so why bother with Blue
Charts?


It might help if you had some clue as to what you were talking about,
rather than guessing wrong.

You could easily go to Garmins website and find out what Blue Charts
is and does. You haven't come very close.

And why "bother" with Blue Charts software? Maybe because virtually
every review ever written of chartplotters has ranked it as the best.
The reviewers often even admit that they liked someone else's
Chartplotter hardware a little better than the Garmin, but the Blue
Charts tipped the scale to the Garmin anyway.

BB

It might help if you answered the guy's quesion, since you are so f.....g
wonderful.


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Pascal Goncalves wrote:

This is not my problem, because I have a GpsMap76 and a GpsMap
276C with BlueChart, but I have the folowing question for a friend:

"If I have a laptop PC and wish to use it to plan and navigate real
time using MapSource BlueChart and the new nRoute, but I have an old
Garmin Gps Receiver that is not a mapping unit, like the G12XL or the
old yelow eTrex, or if I have a old mapping unit like GIII+, all of
wich are not "BlueChart Compatible" in the sense that these units
cannot have Mapsource Blue chart maps loaded on its memory, it would
still be possible to buy a BlueChart CD, and unlock it to these gps
units? This will work?"

It will not work or most likely will not work. Refer him to the
MapSource User's Guide (page 12):

http://www.garmin.com/manuals/MapSou...UsersGuide.pdf

It says that in order to do real time tracking on a PC with MapSource
Bluechart you must do the following:

1 - Have a valid unlock code for your GPS unit installed in MapSource.

2 - Receive real time information from a Garmin unit that supports
locked maps.

3 - The GPS unit must be in Garmin transfer mode, not NMEA mode.

It also says that it will not work with older Garmin units.

The basic issue, as I understand it, is that Garmin backfeeds the PC
with data from the GPS only if it is "married" to the unlocked CD in the PC.

Garmin is probably not going to be remembered fondly for long term
support of some of their equipments and technologies. For example, they
just discontinued support for the G-Chart cartriges that preceeded the
SD chips currently in use.

Any investment I make in chart plotters or GPS equipment would look for
something that is a little more versatile with other families of
equipments and charting in the long run and does not hang its future on
the business decisions of a single company.

Jack

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Jack Erbes wrote:
Pascal Goncalves wrote:

This is not my problem, because I have a GpsMap76 and a GpsMap
276C with BlueChart, but I have the folowing question for a friend:

"If I have a laptop PC and wish to use it to plan and navigate real
time using MapSource BlueChart and the new nRoute, but I have an old
Garmin Gps Receiver that is not a mapping unit, like the G12XL or the
old yelow eTrex, or if I have a old mapping unit like GIII+, all of
wich are not "BlueChart Compatible" in the sense that these units
cannot have Mapsource Blue chart maps loaded on its memory, it would
still be possible to buy a BlueChart CD, and unlock it to these gps
units? This will work?"

It will not work or most likely will not work. Refer him to the
MapSource User's Guide (page 12):

http://www.garmin.com/manuals/MapSou...UsersGuide.pdf

It says that in order to do real time tracking on a PC with MapSource
Bluechart you must do the following:

1 - Have a valid unlock code for your GPS unit installed in MapSource.

2 - Receive real time information from a Garmin unit that supports
locked maps.

3 - The GPS unit must be in Garmin transfer mode, not NMEA mode.

It also says that it will not work with older Garmin units.

The basic issue, as I understand it, is that Garmin backfeeds the PC
with data from the GPS only if it is "married" to the unlocked CD in
the PC.

Garmin is probably not going to be remembered fondly for long term
support of some of their equipments and technologies. For example,
they just discontinued support for the G-Chart cartriges that
preceeded the
SD chips currently in use.

Any investment I make in chart plotters or GPS equipment would look
for something that is a little more versatile with other families of
equipments and charting in the long run and does not hang its future
on
the business decisions of a single company.

Jack

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Thanks Jack, I couldn't have put it better myself.

Dennis.
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http://www.garmin.com/manuals/MapSou...UsersGuide.pdf

It says that in order to do real time tracking on a PC with MapSource
Bluechart you must do the following:

Garmin's latest version of Map Source does NOT support real time
tracking. The last version that supports this is 6.5 which I use and
plan to stay with. N'Route is... well... it just doesn't have the same
features - IN PARTICULAR the ability to create a route via a "route
tool" i.e. a series of mouse clicks as opposed to stacking waypoints
in a list. Please someone tell me I'm wrong and that N'Route has that
feature... otherwise it's Map Source 6.5

Why Garmin made this change is a mystery to me.

regards,


Spamson


1 - Have a valid unlock code for your GPS unit installed in MapSource.

2 - Receive real time information from a Garmin unit that supports
locked maps.

3 - The GPS unit must be in Garmin transfer mode, not NMEA mode.

It also says that it will not work with older Garmin units.

The basic issue, as I understand it, is that Garmin backfeeds the PC
with data from the GPS only if it is "married" to the unlocked CD in the PC.

all correct


Garmin is probably not going to be remembered fondly for long term
support of some of their equipments and technologies. For example, they
just discontinued support for the G-Chart cartriges that preceeded the
SD chips currently in use.

Any investment I make in chart plotters or GPS equipment would look for
something that is a little more versatile with other families of
equipments and charting in the long run and does not hang its future on
the business decisions of a single company.

I agree to a point. Using highly proprietary hardware/software has
worked well for Apple. Even though Garmin's gear only talks to other
Garmin family members as you put it... I honestly don't think they
have exploited that... evidence this by the fact that they are VERY
competitive in the market place i.e. when you compare apples w/apples.
I don't think they are locking others out so much as protecting their
intelectual property. In particular their "Blue Charts".