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Battery Water (revisited)
No, I'm saying the Oxygen is turned into PbO2, Lead Dioxide which is
deposited back on one of the plates in the charging process....we hope. I didn't know oxygen GAS bubbles off.....just Hydrogen. You learn something on Usenet every 8 hours.....(c; On Wed, 01 Oct 2003 13:32:27 -0400, Glenn Ashmore wrote: Larry W4CSC wrote: This article is about turning hydrocarbons, rich in hydrogen into hydrogen, which is logical. But, this miracle-in-the-cap turns hydrogen, which contains no oxygen, into water! I'm still baffled how it turns hydrogen into water when there is no oxygen to do it! It's amazing! The word "Ancient Alchemist" comes to mind.....(c; Are you are saying that the oxygen that was originally tied to the hydrogen that is now free just vanished into nothingness? Not THAT's Alchemy! (or maybe "Modern Physyics".) :-) Does it not seem logical that an oxygen molecule that has happily cohabitated with a couple of hydrogen molecules and suddenly has them stripped away is not going to sit quietly by and let the hydrogen slip out of the battery alone? Both of them need to share electrons with somebody and all the platinum does is incourage them to reconcile. -- Glenn Ashmore I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com Larry W4CSC 3600 planes with transponders are burning 8-10 million gallons of kerosene per hour over the USA. R-12 car air conditioners are responsible for the ozone hole, right? |
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Battery Water (revisited)
Larry,
In addition to the chemistry going on to make the battery work, there is also electrolysis going on which produces hydrogen and oxygen. Ron |
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I looked into the HydroCaps, from my battery wholesaler.
I seem to remember that the price was about $12 each. (4batt. X 3cells X $12 = $144) If the price wasn't enough to turn me off, the fact that these things are about 3 inches tall, above the battery top.. I just didn't have the room for them since the batteries were already 17 inches tall. BTW. I finally filled my batteries yesterday and it too a gallon of water ($.58/gal) and this was after one year in service with 3 months of heavy use this summer. A gallon may seem like a lot of water, but these batteries (L-16) have a lot of volume above the plates. So it was about 11 oz. per cell. Steve s/v Good Intentions |
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Steve,
You should really check the water more often. Losing so much water can't be very good for the batteries. Not sure what the particulars are for increasing the acid concentration of the electrolyte. I'm sure someone will enlighten us. Doug s/v Callista "Steve" wrote in message ... I looked into the HydroCaps, from my battery wholesaler. I seem to remember that the price was about $12 each. (4batt. X 3cells X $12 = $144) If the price wasn't enough to turn me off, the fact that these things are about 3 inches tall, above the battery top.. I just didn't have the room for them since the batteries were already 17 inches tall. BTW. I finally filled my batteries yesterday and it too a gallon of water ($.58/gal) and this was after one year in service with 3 months of heavy use this summer. A gallon may seem like a lot of water, but these batteries (L-16) have a lot of volume above the plates. So it was about 11 oz. per cell. Steve s/v Good Intentions |
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YOu really should check them more often. Around here if a log showed
more than 6 oz being added to a cell the maintenance manager would be sending our memos for a month. :-) Steve wrote: I looked into the HydroCaps, from my battery wholesaler. I seem to remember that the price was about $12 each. (4batt. X 3cells X $12 = $144) If the price wasn't enough to turn me off, the fact that these things are about 3 inches tall, above the battery top.. I just didn't have the room for them since the batteries were already 17 inches tall. BTW. I finally filled my batteries yesterday and it too a gallon of water ($.58/gal) and this was after one year in service with 3 months of heavy use this summer. A gallon may seem like a lot of water, but these batteries (L-16) have a lot of volume above the plates. So it was about 11 oz. per cell. Steve s/v Good Intentions -- Glenn Ashmore I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com |
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Your both right..
I did check the batteries on a weekly basis and the water level was very close to where if was when I purchased and installed the batteries. Until I started adding water, I didn't realize how much they were down. More volume below the fill neck indicator slots than I imagined. In the future I will top them up before they get that low. Thanks. Steve s/v Good Intentions |
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"Steve" wrote
Until I started adding water, I didn't realize how much they were down. More volume below the fill neck indicator slots than I imagined. As long as the plates remain immersed, including when the boat is heeled (for days on one tack) if batteries are oriented fore and aft, the only damage low water levels cause is a result of the slight increase in concentration of the sulfuric acid; and that is minor. I peek at the electrolyte levels every few weeks (easy access) and fill when they are halfway down from the slots. About a liter per 12v T105 bank. |
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I built a retainer right next to the battery boxes for one of those
black plastic battery fillers. For you younger guys that is an artifact once found in those extinct institutions called "Full service gas stations". It holds two quarts of distilled water and you just pop a cap, stick it in and it tops off the cell to the right level. Mark wrote: "Steve" wrote Until I started adding water, I didn't realize how much they were down. More volume below the fill neck indicator slots than I imagined. As long as the plates remain immersed, including when the boat is heeled (for days on one tack) if batteries are oriented fore and aft, the only damage low water levels cause is a result of the slight increase in concentration of the sulfuric acid; and that is minor. I peek at the electrolyte levels every few weeks (easy access) and fill when they are halfway down from the slots. About a liter per 12v T105 bank. -- Glenn Ashmore I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com |
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Battery Water (revisited)
On Mon, 06 Oct 2003 08:52:16 -0400, Glenn Ashmore
tempted fate with: I built a retainer right next to the battery boxes for one of those black plastic battery fillers. For you younger guys that is an artifact once found in those extinct institutions called "Full service gas stations". It holds two quarts of distilled water and you just pop a cap, stick it in and it tops off the cell to the right level. Cripes, where'd you find that? I'm tired of spilling water from those little squeeze bulb thingys that hold about an ounce and drip half of it onto the top of the battery. Glen "Wiley" Wilson usenet1 SPAMNIX at worldwidewiley dot com To reply, lose the capitals and do the obvious. Take a look at cpRepeater, an NMEA data integrator, repeater, and logger at http://www.worldwidewiley.com/ |
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Battery Water (revisited)
Cripes, where'd you find that? I'm tired of spilling water from those
little squeeze bulb thingys that hold about an ounce and drip half of it onto the top of the battery. Keep a look out for a SnapOn or Mac Tools truck. If they don't have one on the truck, they can bring one the next trip. Also check out one of the older parts houses. The new ones are all staffed by kids that woouldn't know what a battery filler was. We have one on the boat and another in the motorhome, because when it was needed, it was always in the othe place. Leanne S/V Fundy |
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