Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #41   Report Post  
Larry W4CSC
 
Posts: n/a
Default Battery Water (revisited)

No, I'm saying the Oxygen is turned into PbO2, Lead Dioxide which is
deposited back on one of the plates in the charging process....we
hope.

I didn't know oxygen GAS bubbles off.....just Hydrogen.

You learn something on Usenet every 8 hours.....(c;



On Wed, 01 Oct 2003 13:32:27 -0400, Glenn Ashmore
wrote:



Larry W4CSC wrote:

This article is about turning hydrocarbons, rich in hydrogen into
hydrogen, which is logical. But, this miracle-in-the-cap turns
hydrogen, which contains no oxygen, into water! I'm still baffled how
it turns hydrogen into water when there is no oxygen to do it! It's
amazing!

The word "Ancient Alchemist" comes to mind.....(c;


Are you are saying that the oxygen that was originally tied to the
hydrogen that is now free just vanished into nothingness? Not THAT's
Alchemy! (or maybe "Modern Physyics".) :-)

Does it not seem logical that an oxygen molecule that has happily
cohabitated with a couple of hydrogen molecules and suddenly has them
stripped away is not going to sit quietly by and let the hydrogen slip
out of the battery alone? Both of them need to share electrons with
somebody and all the platinum does is incourage them to reconcile.

--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com



Larry W4CSC

3600 planes with transponders are burning 8-10 million
gallons of kerosene per hour over the USA. R-12 car air
conditioners are responsible for the ozone hole, right?
  #42   Report Post  
Ron Thornton
 
Posts: n/a
Default Battery Water (revisited)

Larry,

In addition to the chemistry going on to make the battery work, there
is also electrolysis going on which produces hydrogen and oxygen.

Ron

  #43   Report Post  
Steve
 
Posts: n/a
Default Battery Water (revisited)

I looked into the HydroCaps, from my battery wholesaler.

I seem to remember that the price was about $12 each. (4batt. X 3cells X $12
= $144)

If the price wasn't enough to turn me off, the fact that these things are
about 3 inches tall, above the battery top.. I just didn't have the room for
them since the batteries were already 17 inches tall.

BTW. I finally filled my batteries yesterday and it too a gallon of water
($.58/gal) and this was after one year in service with 3 months of heavy use
this summer. A gallon may seem like a lot of water, but these batteries
(L-16) have a lot of volume above the plates. So it was about 11 oz. per
cell.

Steve
s/v Good Intentions


  #44   Report Post  
Doug Dotson
 
Posts: n/a
Default Battery Water (revisited)

Steve,

You should really check the water more often. Losing so much
water can't be very good for the batteries. Not sure what the
particulars are for increasing the acid concentration of the
electrolyte. I'm sure someone will enlighten us.

Doug
s/v Callista

"Steve" wrote in message
...
I looked into the HydroCaps, from my battery wholesaler.

I seem to remember that the price was about $12 each. (4batt. X 3cells X

$12
= $144)

If the price wasn't enough to turn me off, the fact that these things are
about 3 inches tall, above the battery top.. I just didn't have the room

for
them since the batteries were already 17 inches tall.

BTW. I finally filled my batteries yesterday and it too a gallon of water
($.58/gal) and this was after one year in service with 3 months of heavy

use
this summer. A gallon may seem like a lot of water, but these batteries
(L-16) have a lot of volume above the plates. So it was about 11 oz. per
cell.

Steve
s/v Good Intentions




  #45   Report Post  
Glenn Ashmore
 
Posts: n/a
Default Battery Water (revisited)

YOu really should check them more often. Around here if a log showed
more than 6 oz being added to a cell the maintenance manager would be
sending our memos for a month. :-)

Steve wrote:
I looked into the HydroCaps, from my battery wholesaler.

I seem to remember that the price was about $12 each. (4batt. X 3cells X $12
= $144)

If the price wasn't enough to turn me off, the fact that these things are
about 3 inches tall, above the battery top.. I just didn't have the room for
them since the batteries were already 17 inches tall.

BTW. I finally filled my batteries yesterday and it too a gallon of water
($.58/gal) and this was after one year in service with 3 months of heavy use
this summer. A gallon may seem like a lot of water, but these batteries
(L-16) have a lot of volume above the plates. So it was about 11 oz. per
cell.

Steve
s/v Good Intentions




--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com



  #46   Report Post  
Steve
 
Posts: n/a
Default Battery Water (revisited)

Your both right..

I did check the batteries on a weekly basis and the water level was very
close to where if was when I purchased and installed the batteries.

Until I started adding water, I didn't realize how much they were down. More
volume below the fill neck indicator slots than I imagined.

In the future I will top them up before they get that low.

Thanks.

Steve
s/v Good Intentions


  #47   Report Post  
Mark
 
Posts: n/a
Default Battery Water (revisited)

"Steve" wrote
Until I started adding water, I didn't realize how much they were down. More
volume below the fill neck indicator slots than I imagined.


As long as the plates remain immersed, including when the boat is
heeled (for days on one tack) if batteries are oriented fore and aft,
the only damage low water levels cause is a result of the slight
increase in concentration of the sulfuric acid; and that is minor.

I peek at the electrolyte levels every few weeks (easy access) and
fill when they are halfway down from the slots. About a liter per 12v
T105 bank.
  #48   Report Post  
Glenn Ashmore
 
Posts: n/a
Default Battery Water (revisited)

I built a retainer right next to the battery boxes for one of those
black plastic battery fillers. For you younger guys that is an artifact
once found in those extinct institutions called "Full service gas
stations". It holds two quarts of distilled water and you just pop a
cap, stick it in and it tops off the cell to the right level.

Mark wrote:
"Steve" wrote

Until I started adding water, I didn't realize how much they were down. More
volume below the fill neck indicator slots than I imagined.



As long as the plates remain immersed, including when the boat is
heeled (for days on one tack) if batteries are oriented fore and aft,
the only damage low water levels cause is a result of the slight
increase in concentration of the sulfuric acid; and that is minor.

I peek at the electrolyte levels every few weeks (easy access) and
fill when they are halfway down from the slots. About a liter per 12v
T105 bank.


--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com

  #49   Report Post  
Glen
 
Posts: n/a
Default Battery Water (revisited)

On Mon, 06 Oct 2003 08:52:16 -0400, Glenn Ashmore
tempted fate with:

I built a retainer right next to the battery boxes for one of those
black plastic battery fillers. For you younger guys that is an artifact
once found in those extinct institutions called "Full service gas
stations". It holds two quarts of distilled water and you just pop a
cap, stick it in and it tops off the cell to the right level.

Cripes, where'd you find that? I'm tired of spilling water from those
little squeeze bulb thingys that hold about an ounce and drip half of
it onto the top of the battery.


Glen "Wiley" Wilson usenet1 SPAMNIX at worldwidewiley dot com
To reply, lose the capitals and do the obvious.

Take a look at cpRepeater, an NMEA data integrator, repeater, and
logger at http://www.worldwidewiley.com/
  #50   Report Post  
Leanne
 
Posts: n/a
Default Battery Water (revisited)

Cripes, where'd you find that? I'm tired of spilling water from those
little squeeze bulb thingys that hold about an ounce and drip half of
it onto the top of the battery.


Keep a look out for a SnapOn or Mac Tools truck. If they don't have
one on the truck, they can bring one the next trip. Also check out one
of the older parts houses. The new ones are all staffed by kids that
woouldn't know what a battery filler was. We have one on the boat
and another in the motorhome, because when it was needed, it was
always in the othe place.

Leanne
S/V Fundy


Reply
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules

Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Where to find ramp stories? designo General 15 December 9th 03 09:57 PM
Fresh Water Tank Lou Cragin Cruising 6 December 8th 03 09:23 AM
Hot Water Dispenser Conor Crowley Cruising 11 October 28th 03 08:42 PM
Battery Water?? Steve Electronics 26 September 18th 03 07:17 PM
alternator charging to high? Richard Malcolm Electronics 8 August 20th 03 10:57 AM


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 12:24 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004-2024 BoatBanter.com.
The comments are property of their posters.
 

About Us

"It's about Boats"

 

Copyright © 2017