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Pitch & Roll sensor
Meindert Sprang wrote: "maxlynn" wrote in message news:9tXKb.103004$pY.50340@fed1read04... What you say is true in a fixed one-g environment. You can derive a crude measurement of angular rotation in any fixed, uni-directional acceleration environment in the manner that you suggest. But as I understand the proposed application, the accelerometer(s)/instruments are to be mounted in a dynamic environment. The accelerometers mentioned are designed to measure linear acceleration. That is what the manufacturer designed them to do. They are NOT designed to measure rotation or rotational rates. That is generally a domain reserved for gyroscopes and related insruments or systems. Well, read the datasheets. AD says specifically in their datasheets that the ADXL's can be used as an inclinometer. Apart from that, a boat seems an 'almost fixed' one-g environmet to me. Meindert Stand on your bathroom scales while under sail in rollers and then tell me your local gee is stable at one. The boat bobs and weaves. The local gee variation is one of the things that cause seasickness. Your simple accellerometer pitch and roll sensor will also get sick. The sensors could be used as roll, etc sensors, but not if the platform is heaving or weaving, unless you use twice as many as you might otherwise out of phase, and then combine their outputs to enable nulling the elevator effects. A pendulum and potentiometer rig seems better though it too will sense unwanted displacements. A gyro setup, even a stationary one with pendulum type sensing via bar coded markings, is likely the best. How much accuracy do you need? To resolve satellite pointing issues, a fixed 3 axis setup (six sensors) will be required, with integration of the outputs to derive azimuth and elevation, unless you servo the yaw efficiently and then sense the elevation, then you only need juggle two indications. You might use an electronic compass to control the yaw of the antenna platform. Daily adjustments of magnetic variation might be needed in passage, and as well, you would need to integrate compass variations due to local ferrous masses at various headings. Perhaps a gyrocompass? This is not so simple as it sounds. If it was, a one chip controller would be produced by now, and our airliners and cars might all have satellite reception available. Alternate methods might be use of gps position, time of day, and star sight information during clear sky moments. -- Terry K - My email address is MY PROPERTY, and is protected by copyright legislation. Permission to reproduce it is specifically denied for mass mailing and unrequested solicitations. Spamspoof salad by spamchock TM - SofDevCo ® |
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Pitch & Roll sensor
On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 17:52:40 GMT, Terry Spragg
wrote: How much accuracy do you need? To resolve satellite pointing issues, a fixed 3 axis setup (six sensors) will be required, with integration of the outputs to derive azimuth and elevation, unless you servo the yaw efficiently and then sense the elevation, then you only need juggle two indications. You might use an electronic compass to control the yaw of the antenna platform. Daily adjustments of magnetic variation might be needed in passage, and as well, you would need to integrate compass variations due to local ferrous masses at various headings. Perhaps a gyrocompass? The (Inmarsat D+) satellite transceiver uses an omnidirectional antenna, so no moving parts. According to the specs it has an elevation mask angle of 5° so one can theoretically work out where in the world it will have coverage of the Inmarsat satellites. However, the certifying body wants practical tests done in real-life conditions before certifying it for marine use. We aren't the manufacturer, only end-users, but need certification for our work. The units may work up to the theoretical limits in perfect weather, but the aim is to see how much degradation of performance there is in bad weather - when the units would be more likely used. Dave |
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