Rick Morel wrote in
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My experience with Raymarine, about 10 years, has always been that
NMEA data fed in will propagate along the Seatalk as well.

Rick Morel

I also thought this, but was told by an electronics installer that the
st600x displays don't translate the NMEA data into SeaTalk. They only
display it. The course computer does provide the translation. I have no
direct experience with this, so I'd be interested in having this info
verified.

-- Geoff
www.GeoffSchultz.org

Anyway... it indicates that I should opt for feeding the NMEA to the S1 even
if the GPS is next to the ST6002. But's it's OK. I will need to bring the
NMEA signal back to the main wiring closet for other purposes anyway.

Thanks for your input.

--
Maxi 999 - 'Escape' - Hundige



"Geoff Schultz" wrote in message
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Rick Morel wrote in
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My experience with Raymarine, about 10 years, has always been that
NMEA data fed in will propagate along the Seatalk as well.

Rick Morel

I also thought this, but was told by an electronics installer that the
st600x displays don't translate the NMEA data into SeaTalk. They only
display it. The course computer does provide the translation. I have no
direct experience with this, so I'd be interested in having this info
verified.

-- Geoff
www.GeoffSchultz.org

On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 08:29:21 -0500, Geoff Schultz
wrote:

Rick Morel wrote in
news
My experience with Raymarine, about 10 years, has always been that
NMEA data fed in will propagate along the Seatalk as well.

Rick Morel

I also thought this, but was told by an electronics installer that the
st600x displays don't translate the NMEA data into SeaTalk. They only
display it. The course computer does provide the translation. I have no
direct experience with this, so I'd be interested in having this info
verified.

-- Geoff


I'm not aboard "home" at the moment, but I checked the manuals on my
computer:
---------------------------------------------------
The S1 has a single NMEA input/output to
receive and transmit information from
NMEA equipment.

S2 and S3 systems have two sets of NMEA
inputs/outputs to receive and transmit
information from NMEA equipment.
--------------------------------------------------

You can also use the SmartPilot with any navigator or wind instrument
that transmits National Marine Electronics Association (NMEA) 0183
data.
The SmartPilot control unit can display SeaTalk and NMEA instrument
data in a user-defined selection of data pages.

If you have equipment on your boat that transmits or receives NMEA
0183 data (e.g. GPS), you can connect this equipment to the
SmartPilot. NMEA equipment can be connected in any combination of
these ways:
• using the SmartPilot computer NMEA input/output
• using the NMEA input on the back of the SmartPilot controller.
(Refer to the Controller handbook for NMEA data details)
• using the SeaTalk/NMEA interface (part number: E85001) to convert
the NMEA data to SeaTalk data
------------------------------------------------------------------

I just remembered my GPS line ran next to the computer and hooking it
up there.

Anyway that last paragraph above seems to say it doesn't matter which
input you use, the unit will use the data when in the "Track" mode and
will display the data.

Rick

Rick Morel wrote in
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On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 08:29:21 -0500, Geoff Schultz
wrote:

Rick Morel wrote in
news
My experience with Raymarine, about 10 years, has always been that
NMEA data fed in will propagate along the Seatalk as well.

Rick Morel

I also thought this, but was told by an electronics installer that the
st600x displays don't translate the NMEA data into SeaTalk. They only
display it. The course computer does provide the translation. I have
no direct experience with this, so I'd be interested in having this
info verified.

-- Geoff


I'm not aboard "home" at the moment, but I checked the manuals on my
computer:
---------------------------------------------------
The S1 has a single NMEA input/output to
receive and transmit information from
NMEA equipment.

S2 and S3 systems have two sets of NMEA
inputs/outputs to receive and transmit
information from NMEA equipment.
--------------------------------------------------

You can also use the SmartPilot with any navigator or wind instrument
that transmits National Marine Electronics Association (NMEA) 0183
data.
The SmartPilot control unit can display SeaTalk and NMEA instrument
data in a user-defined selection of data pages.

If you have equipment on your boat that transmits or receives NMEA
0183 data (e.g. GPS), you can connect this equipment to the
SmartPilot. NMEA equipment can be connected in any combination of
these ways:
• using the SmartPilot computer NMEA input/output
• using the NMEA input on the back of the SmartPilot controller.
(Refer to the Controller handbook for NMEA data details)
• using the SeaTalk/NMEA interface (part number: E85001) to convert
the NMEA data to SeaTalk data
------------------------------------------------------------------

I just remembered my GPS line ran next to the computer and hooking it
up there.

Anyway that last paragraph above seems to say it doesn't matter which
input you use, the unit will use the data when in the "Track" mode and
will display the data.

Rick

Well, that's the way that I would like to think that it works, but I'm
still not convinced. As it says, "The SmartPilot control unit can
display SeaTalk and NMEA instrument data in a user-defined selection of
data pages."

I know that it can display the data, but I didn't think that the ST600x
controller converts it to SeaTalk. I just have this feeling that
RayMarine wants to see you yet another box to do the conversion, as
mentioned in the last bullet above (SeaTalk/NMEA interface).

-- Geoff




--
-- Geoff
www.GeoffSchultz.org

On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 12:45:52 -0500, Geoff Schultz
wrote:

Anyway that last paragraph above seems to say it doesn't matter which
input you use, the unit will use the data when in the "Track" mode and
will display the data.

Rick

Well, that's the way that I would like to think that it works, but I'm
still not convinced. As it says, "The SmartPilot control unit can
display SeaTalk and NMEA instrument data in a user-defined selection of
data pages."

I know that it can display the data, but I didn't think that the ST600x
controller converts it to SeaTalk. I just have this feeling that
RayMarine wants to see you yet another box to do the conversion, as
mentioned in the last bullet above (SeaTalk/NMEA interface).

-- Geoff

I'm kind of getting lost here. I have a Garmin GPS connected via NMEA.
The S1 uses the GPS info to go to a waypoint or follow a route, and
displays the info from the GPS - goto a waypoint on the GPS, hit
"Track" on the S1, it beeps and gives a turn direction and course, hit
"Track" again and the S1 steers to the waypoint or follows the route.

The only connection between the S1 computer and controller is Seatalk,
so it must be converting NMEA to Seatalk.

Rick

Rick Morel wrote in
:

On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 12:45:52 -0500, Geoff Schultz
wrote:

Anyway that last paragraph above seems to say it doesn't matter
which input you use, the unit will use the data when in the "Track"
mode and will display the data.

Rick

Well, that's the way that I would like to think that it works, but I'm
still not convinced. As it says, "The SmartPilot control unit can
display SeaTalk and NMEA instrument data in a user-defined selection
of data pages."

I know that it can display the data, but I didn't think that the
ST600x controller converts it to SeaTalk. I just have this feeling
that RayMarine wants to see you yet another box to do the conversion,
as mentioned in the last bullet above (SeaTalk/NMEA interface).

-- Geoff

I'm kind of getting lost here. I have a Garmin GPS connected via NMEA.
The S1 uses the GPS info to go to a waypoint or follow a route, and
displays the info from the GPS - goto a waypoint on the GPS, hit
"Track" on the S1, it beeps and gives a turn direction and course, hit
"Track" again and the S1 steers to the waypoint or follows the route.

The only connection between the S1 computer and controller is Seatalk,
so it must be converting NMEA to Seatalk.

Rick

I've been continuing this same discussion at SailBoatOwners.com,
http://forums.sbo.sailboatowners.com...136#post621136
which is a forum where there's actually reasonable discussions about
boating...

But, before I digress...the conclusion there is that the ST600x will
display NMEA data which is presented to it, but it won't translate those
sentences into SeaTalk format. Thus if you have another SeaTalk based
display on the boat, you won't see the data being fed to the ST600x with
the NMEA input. To convert NMEA to SeaTalk, you need a box which
bridges the two.

I'm not 100% sure what you mean when you say a "Garmin GPS". Are you
talking about a GPS antenna or a chartplotter? For example, I have a
Garmin GPS antenna which connects to my course computer via NMEA and I
also have a NorthStar chartplotter connected via NMEA and a RayMarine
chartplotter connected via SeaTalk. All of these talk to one another
and my ST6001 just fine. However, let's say that I had a wind
instrument connected to my ST6001 via NMEA. The ST6001 would show the
wind data, but my RayMarine C80 wouldn't display the wind data.


-- Geoff
www.GeoffSchultz.org

On Mon, 27 Apr 2009 08:37:59 -0500, Geoff Schultz
wrote:

But, before I digress...the conclusion there is that the ST600x will
display NMEA data which is presented to it, but it won't translate those
sentences into SeaTalk format. Thus if you have another SeaTalk based
display on the boat, you won't see the data being fed to the ST600x with
the NMEA input. To convert NMEA to SeaTalk, you need a box which
bridges the two.

I'm not 100% sure what you mean when you say a "Garmin GPS". Are you
talking about a GPS antenna or a chartplotter? For example, I have a
Garmin GPS antenna which connects to my course computer via NMEA and I
also have a NorthStar chartplotter connected via NMEA and a RayMarine
chartplotter connected via SeaTalk. All of these talk to one another
and my ST6001 just fine. However, let's say that I had a wind
instrument connected to my ST6001 via NMEA. The ST6001 would show the
wind data, but my RayMarine C80 wouldn't display the wind data.


-- Geoff


Geoff, I don't know how I could have been clearer. I wrote:

"I have a Garmin GPS connected via NMEA.
The S1 uses the GPS info to go to a waypoint or follow a route, and
displays the info from the GPS - goto a waypoint on the GPS, hit
"Track" on the S1, it beeps and gives a turn direction and course, hit
"Track" again and the S1 steers to the waypoint or follows the route."

A Garmin _GPS_ the S1 uses to go to a waypoint or follow a route.

I don't have any other Raymarine instrument displays, but I have to
believe the S1 does translate NMEA to Seatalk because the Garmin NMEA
is physically connected to the S1 Computer, and the S1
Display/Controller, which is physically connected via Seatalk only,
displays the GPS data. So the NMEA data has to be available on the
Seatalk buss for the display to get it, doesn't it?

Rick

Rick Morel wrote in
:

On Mon, 27 Apr 2009 08:37:59 -0500, Geoff Schultz
wrote:

But, before I digress...the conclusion there is that the ST600x will
display NMEA data which is presented to it, but it won't translate
those
sentences into SeaTalk format. Thus if you have another SeaTalk based
display on the boat, you won't see the data being fed to the ST600x
with
the NMEA input. To convert NMEA to SeaTalk, you need a box which
bridges the two.

I'm not 100% sure what you mean when you say a "Garmin GPS". Are you
talking about a GPS antenna or a chartplotter? For example, I have a
Garmin GPS antenna which connects to my course computer via NMEA and I
also have a NorthStar chartplotter connected via NMEA and a RayMarine
chartplotter connected via SeaTalk. All of these talk to one another
and my ST6001 just fine. However, let's say that I had a wind
instrument connected to my ST6001 via NMEA. The ST6001 would show the
wind data, but my RayMarine C80 wouldn't display the wind data.


-- Geoff


Geoff, I don't know how I could have been clearer. I wrote:

"I have a Garmin GPS connected via NMEA.
The S1 uses the GPS info to go to a waypoint or follow a route, and
displays the info from the GPS - goto a waypoint on the GPS, hit
"Track" on the S1, it beeps and gives a turn direction and course, hit
"Track" again and the S1 steers to the waypoint or follows the route."

A Garmin _GPS_ the S1 uses to go to a waypoint or follow a route.

I don't have any other Raymarine instrument displays, but I have to
believe the S1 does translate NMEA to Seatalk because the Garmin NMEA
is physically connected to the S1 Computer, and the S1
Display/Controller, which is physically connected via Seatalk only,
displays the GPS data. So the NMEA data has to be available on the
Seatalk buss for the display to get it, doesn't it?

Rick

Rick,

The RayMarine S1 is a course computer. It has has no display. How do
you input the course to it? The ST600x and any other controller will
beep when it's time to change waypoints.

From what I can tell, your Garmin GPS antenna is connected to the S1
course computer, which is translating the lat/long into SeaTalk. There
has been no argument about this. The whole discussion has been about
connecting a NMEA instrument to the ST600x NMEA input and the ST600x
translating the NMEA data to SeaTalk. Your antenna is connected to the
S1 course computer and not the ST600x controller. What are you talking
about?

-- Geoff
www.GeoffSchultz.org

Is the NMEA signal from your Garmin feed (physical) to the ST6002 dispaly or
to the S1 computer ?


Bjarke

--
Maxi 999 - 'Escape' - Hundige



"Rick Morel" wrote in message
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On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 12:45:52 -0500, Geoff Schultz
snip

I'm kind of getting lost here. I have a Garmin GPS connected via NMEA.
The S1 uses the GPS info to go to a waypoint or follow a route, and
displays the info from the GPS - goto a waypoint on the GPS, hit
"Track" on the S1, it beeps and gives a turn direction and course, hit
"Track" again and the S1 steers to the waypoint or follows the route.

The only connection between the S1 computer and controller is Seatalk,
so it must be converting NMEA to Seatalk.

Rick

On Mon, 27 Apr 2009 22:04:44 +0200, "Bjarke M. Christensen"
Bjarke(snabel-a)grevestrand(punkt)dk wrote:

Is the NMEA signal from your Garmin feed (physical) to the ST6002 dispaly or
to the S1 computer ?


Bjarke

The Garmin GPS NMEA output is connected to the S1 computer. The S1
will go to a waypoint or follow a route, and display data from the
GPS. The display/controller is connected to the computer via only
Seatalk.

Rick