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Richard Casady November 15th 08 01:18 AM

Fuel polishing system report
 
On Fri, 14 Nov 2008 11:16:11 -0500, wrote:

On Fri, 14 Nov 2008 14:06:34 GMT,
(Richard
Casady) wrote:

On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 23:30:06 -0500,
wrote:

In fact, I have to monitor things carefully and turn on interior
lights to bleed off the surplus, so I don't overcharge the batteries
when motorsailing with the outboard running - even at low speeds.


Voltage regulator? Evidently the one you have is not smart enough.

Casady


Oh course it's not, Dummy. It's a small outboard motor charging
system. They are primitive. If I wanted to add more complexity to it,
I could add an external regulator. I don't feel the need for that,
anymore than I need a regulator to adjust the mainsail trim by itself.


I don't recall any battery problems with the old electromechanical
ones. Those were huge, of course. If you have to adjust the load to
suit the regulator, it isn't worthy of the name. These days smart
costs next to nothing, and takes up next to no space. No excuse for
primitive, when it doesn't work. You can supervise an alternator, if
you like: some are busy driving the boat. or whatever.

Casady

Larry November 15th 08 01:29 AM

Fuel polishing system report
 
wrote in :

My outboard has limited charging ability, but it is plenty for my
needs. I NEVER use shorepower for anything. I don't even keep the
cable on board.



Why is that such a source of personal pride? I've never met anyone living
in a mud hut who was proud of NOT having electricity. Why is it such a
wonderful thing on a BOAT?


Larry November 15th 08 01:42 AM

Fuel polishing system report
 
Bruce in alaska wrote in news:fast-835618.10442214112008
@netnews.worldnet.att.net:

If your running your filters until the engine is getting "Starved for
Fuel", and "running lean", then your and absolute Moroooooon, (Bugs Bunny
Definition) as that would mean that there isn't enough fuel to fully
fill the Injectors each time they fire, AND that also means that there
would be NO fuel coming back thru the Fuel Return Line, AND consequently
No Cooling of the Injector Tips, which is the Primary Reason for the
Fuel Return Line, in the FIRST PLACE. Very Good way to BURN OUT the
Injector Tips on your CATs, Sonny.... Just where did you learn your
Diesel Engineering.... Dufus's R Us???


Huh? How the hell do you get it to idle?? The intake is either naturally
aspirated or supercharged (4-stroke) and you STARVE IT OF FUEL TO MAKE IT
SLOW DOWN! It's nearly starved to death at idle with just enough fire to
turn it over....

?????/ I'm not sure about your engine, but my engines regulate FUEL
SUPPLY when I press down on the pedal or push the throttles forward...or
aft. What kinda cooling does the injector tip require when there's so
little fuel in ALL THAT COOL AIR the damned thing hardly fires at all?!

You musta missed something. A diesel engine is one of the simplest
machines ever built.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qU09jijFMiI
See all the fire left over from this one running SO LEAN AT SLOW SPEED?
You're looking right into the combustion chamber of a running ship engine.
See any smoke?? Nope.

It's so hot in there lube oil is dripping off all over the place....

Duhhh...



Richard Casady November 15th 08 01:42 AM

Fuel polishing system report
 
On Fri, 14 Nov 2008 21:14:03 +0100, "Edgar"
wrote:

If you are in a VLCC with six miles stopping distance it is quite a
different ball game.


When someone falls over the side you put the rudder hard over, leaving
the engine alone. You make a circle a mile in diameter and are down to
three knots when you get back to the spot.

Casady

Richard Casady November 15th 08 01:42 AM

Fuel polishing system report
 
On Fri, 14 Nov 2008 15:50:51 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:


But, YOU can see a VLCC on radar much easier than he can see you


The big ships have bigger, better radars. This mitigates the
difference in targets size somewhat.

Casady

Bruce in Bangkok[_9_] November 15th 08 02:35 AM

Fuel polishing system report
 
On Sat, 15 Nov 2008 01:29:00 +0000, Larry wrote:

wrote in :

My outboard has limited charging ability, but it is plenty for my
needs. I NEVER use shorepower for anything. I don't even keep the
cable on board.



Why is that such a source of personal pride? I've never met anyone living
in a mud hut who was proud of NOT having electricity. Why is it such a
wonderful thing on a BOAT?


Many years ago I worked in rather remote areas of Irian Jaya where
the people were literally "stone age". The locals were entranced by
metal tools, of course, but also by wrist watches, nails and plastic
tarpaulins.

Apparently even stone age peoples can see the advantage of telling
accurate time, fastening things together without tying them together
with vines and really waterproof, rather then thatched roofs.

It is a shame that people living in an advanced society have
degenerated to the point that they believe doing it in the old
(primitive) way is "better".
Cheers,

Bruce
(bpaige125atgmaildotcom)

[email protected] November 15th 08 01:03 PM

Fuel polishing system report
 
On Fri, 14 Nov 2008 18:50:04 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Fri, 14 Nov 2008 12:41:06 -0500, wrote:

Size has little to do with it, and How often do you go anywhere that
you are offshore for more than a week?


Moored or anchored? Sometimes for more than a month. We are totally
independant of marinas except for fuel and water and the boat has lots
of that, far more than most sail boats.


You likely use more fuel in a hour than I use in a season. And your
fuel is that smelly, more expensive stuff. I'll bet that despite your
vast tankage, you visit fuel docks far more often than I do.


[email protected] November 15th 08 01:09 PM

Fuel polishing system report
 
On Sat, 15 Nov 2008 01:29:00 +0000, Larry wrote:

wrote in :

My outboard has limited charging ability, but it is plenty for my
needs. I NEVER use shorepower for anything. I don't even keep the
cable on board.



Why is that such a source of personal pride? I've never met anyone living
in a mud hut who was proud of NOT having electricity. Why is it such a
wonderful thing on a BOAT?


As stated before, I sail because it's different from staying at home.
If I wanted things to be just like at home, why would I need a boat? I
PREFER the lack of landbound thinking. I enjoy being self sufficient
as much as possible. I'm very comfortable on the boat without all that
crap. I consider it an advantage.

Why do people go camping? Why do people go for a walk? Why would
anyone drive at night when it's so much easier in the daytime?


Good Solder Schweik November 15th 08 03:04 PM

Fuel polishing system report
 
On Sat, 15 Nov 2008 08:03:42 -0500, wrote:

On Fri, 14 Nov 2008 18:50:04 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Fri, 14 Nov 2008 12:41:06 -0500,
wrote:

Size has little to do with it, and How often do you go anywhere that
you are offshore for more than a week?


Moored or anchored? Sometimes for more than a month. We are totally
independant of marinas except for fuel and water and the boat has lots
of that, far more than most sail boats.


You likely use more fuel in a hour than I use in a season. And your
fuel is that smelly, more expensive stuff. I'll bet that despite your
vast tankage, you visit fuel docks far more often than I do.


I probably do use more fuel then you do, but then again, I suppose I
can afford to. On the other hand I never visit a fuel dock. I haul it
out in jerry cans.

If you believe that having a tiny, inefficient, motor is to be
blessed, then obviously having no motor is even more blessed. I
suggest that you take out the batteries too. then you can be pure at
heart and run on kerosene.

Funny how the weekend warriors all brag about "sailing" when the
professionals, the people who actually make their living on the water
all want the newest and latest development.

I once asked an old lobsterman, "Capt. Chester, were the good old days
really that good?" He replied, "Boy, I'll tell you, you get down the
mouth of the bay and the wind dies and you have to row her home you
won't talk about the good old days!"
Cheers,

Schwiek
(goodsolderschweikatgmaildotcom)

[email protected] November 15th 08 03:18 PM

Fuel polishing system report
 
On Sat, 15 Nov 2008 22:04:05 +0700, Good Solder Schweik
wrote:

On Sat, 15 Nov 2008 08:03:42 -0500, wrote:

On Fri, 14 Nov 2008 18:50:04 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Fri, 14 Nov 2008 12:41:06 -0500,
wrote:

Size has little to do with it, and How often do you go anywhere that
you are offshore for more than a week?

Moored or anchored? Sometimes for more than a month. We are totally
independant of marinas except for fuel and water and the boat has lots
of that, far more than most sail boats.


You likely use more fuel in a hour than I use in a season. And your
fuel is that smelly, more expensive stuff. I'll bet that despite your
vast tankage, you visit fuel docks far more often than I do.


I probably do use more fuel then you do, but then again, I suppose I
can afford to. On the other hand I never visit a fuel dock. I haul it
out in jerry cans.

If you believe that having a tiny, inefficient, motor is to be
blessed, then obviously having no motor is even more blessed. I
suggest that you take out the batteries too. then you can be pure at
heart and run on kerosene.

Funny how the weekend warriors all brag about "sailing" when the
professionals, the people who actually make their living on the water
all want the newest and latest development.

I once asked an old lobsterman, "Capt. Chester, were the good old days
really that good?" He replied, "Boy, I'll tell you, you get down the
mouth of the bay and the wind dies and you have to row her home you
won't talk about the good old days!"
Cheers,

Schwiek
(goodsolderschweikatgmaildotcom)


Bwahahahaha! What a clueless dope you are.



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