"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote

Has NO (snip) female crew members ...

Now, that part of the whole rant I can easily believe

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Roger Long wrote:
"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote

Has NO (snip) female crew members ...


Now, that part of the whole rant I can easily believe

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Roger Long


I'm finding out that the whole idea of "all female crew" is a bit
"different".

I've been working with the local ASA school to get my instructor
certification.

So I often find myself on a Catalina 310 with six women, or a J22
with three.

I'm not complaining, mind you.

But it's different.



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"cavelamb himself" wrote in message
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Roger Long wrote:
"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote

Has NO (snip) female crew members ...


Now, that part of the whole rant I can easily believe

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Roger Long


I'm finding out that the whole idea of "all female crew" is a bit
"different".

I've been working with the local ASA school to get my instructor
certification.

So I often find myself on a Catalina 310 with six women, or a J22
with three.

I'm not complaining, mind you.

But it's different.


Yep, it's different. Enjoyable... they think about and do things quite a bit
differently. I had three women students last season on a J-24 in the bay.
They were by far the best students, even though they had the same level of
experience. They worked together better, especially during COB drills. They
trusted each other more than male students, and they used their brains
rather than just their muscles to get things done. I would much rather teach
women. There may be competition aspects between boats, but there's no place
for it on the same boat, and I've had male students get into that all too
often.

I think you'll find the real challenge will be when you have a mix of men
and women. The women tend to be less likely to volunteer, and the men tend
to either want to take over or be condescending or have a lack of patience.

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On 2008-11-11 17:39:04 -0500, cavelamb himself said:

So I often find myself on a Catalina 310 with six women, or a J22 with three.

I'm not complaining, mind you.

But it's different.

Oh, quit bragging....

;-)

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Xan-à-Deux -- Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD
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I once sailed down the Hudson on the sloop "Clearwater" shortly after
joining their advisory board. The captain, mate, and crew were all women.
I was the only man on board. I have seldom, if ever, seen a large and
difficult to manage vessel (70 foot boom) handled so well.

In my long association with many sail training groups, it was almost
universally acknowledged, often reluctantly by some fairly macho males, that
women make better sailors both at the entry level and as they rise to
command. Good example is Maine's Linda Greenlaw of "Perfect Storm" fame.
She was the most successful captain in the most challenging fishery on the
east coast. Fishing is different than sailing but many of the same
priniciples apply.

There is an aspect of sailing that plays directly to the strenght of the way
the female mind tends to approach life (whether you believe this is hard
wired or socialized in). The sailing vessel has no power source of its
own. It is made to move only by changing it's own configuration and subtly
influencing the environment around it; not by exerting power to overcome its
environment.
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Roger Long

On 2008-11-11 15:57:24 -0500, "Roger Long" said:

"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote

Has NO (snip) female crew members ...

Now, that part of the whole rant I can easily believe

You're more persistent than me. I missed that in my scan.

I gotta say that having my "girl" on the boat makes life lots more fun.

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Xan-à-Deux -- Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD
Xan's pages: http://web.mac.com/jerelull/iWeb/Xan/
Our BVI trips & tips: http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/

"Jere Lull" wrote in message
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On 2008-11-11 15:57:24 -0500, "Roger Long" said:

"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote

Has NO (snip) female crew members ...

Now, that part of the whole rant I can easily believe

You're more persistent than me. I missed that in my scan.

I gotta say that having my "girl" on the boat makes life lots more fun.

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Jere Lull
Xan-à-Deux -- Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD
Xan's pages: http://web.mac.com/jerelull/iWeb/Xan/
Our BVI trips & tips: http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/



Damn right.

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There are two theories on how to communicate with women. Neither work.