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"Lee Huddleston" wrote in message
.. .
The guides seem
to rarely tell about very many good anchorages and, importantly, where
you can land your dingy. Can anyone recommend guides for the East
Coast and the Bahamas that emphasis anchoring or at least give it fair
coverage?


Skipper Bob's Anchorages Along the Intracoastal Waterway has served us well.

Leanne
s/v Fundy

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Skipper Bob has a book all about anchorages.

http://skipperbob.home.att.net/

However, the best "live on the hook" anchorages you'll have to find on your own.
I have friends who have survived, (thrived, actually) for most of the last 24
years living on roughly the specified amount - it can be done, but it requires
serious adjustment of one's lifestyle.




"Lee Huddleston" wrote in message
.. .
Several posters have recommended that you anchor out rather than use
marinas. I completely agree but worry about making that happen. The
cruising guides with which I am familiar tout the marinas (probably
because they are the ones who buy ads in the guides). The guides seem
to rarely tell about very many good anchorages and, importantly, where
you can land your dingy. Can anyone recommend guides for the East
Coast and the Bahamas that emphasis anchoring or at least give it fair
coverage?

Lee Huddleston
s/v Truelove
lying Sea Gate Marina
Beaufort, NC

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"Jeff Morris" wrote:

Skipper Bob has a book all about anchorages.

http://skipperbob.home.att.net/

However, the best "live on the hook" anchorages you'll have to find on your own.
I have friends who have survived, (thrived, actually) for most of the last 24
years living on roughly the specified amount - it can be done, but it requires
serious adjustment of one's lifestyle.

Skipper Bob's anchorage book is good for the ICW and in addition has
the hailing frequency (which often changes when you go across a state
line), names (what to hail the bridge as is often not on the charts
and it's important to know which bridge you are talking to when there
are several in close proximity), and schedules of the bridges.

He also has a marina book which might be a good idea to have also
(it's inexpensive enough) as it gives the relative prices and
amenities in a table form so you can decide if you want to go into a
marina for a night or two to do the laundry or get water for instance.

For NC, SC, and GA, Claiborne Young's books (although much more
expensive) are really excellent for anchorages. I haven't seen his
Florida books (he has one for the east coast and the west coast and
has collaborated on a Keys book too). He covers the whole state and
not just the ICW. And (particularly important in Georgia with larger
tides) indicates what kind of swing room is available for various size
boats.

For the Chesapeake, I really like the Gunkholer's Guide, although the
Chesapeake Bay magazine's guide is also good.

Finding anchorages will be assisted if you have really good detailed
and up-to-date charts.

In the Bahamas, the Explorer charts have anchorages on them IIRC.
There are also guidebooks which list various anchorages. I don't
think Skipper Bob's book is as good for the Bahamas as his ones on the
ICW.

"Lee Huddleston" wrote in message
. ..
Several posters have recommended that you anchor out rather than use
marinas. I completely agree but worry about making that happen. The
cruising guides with which I am familiar tout the marinas (probably
because they are the ones who buy ads in the guides). The guides seem
to rarely tell about very many good anchorages and, importantly, where
you can land your dingy. Can anyone recommend guides for the East
Coast and the Bahamas that emphasis anchoring or at least give it fair
coverage?

Lee Huddleston
s/v Truelove
lying Sea Gate Marina
Beaufort, NC


grandma Rosalie

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"Fred Allen" wrote in message
om...
It's only the LITTLE can about a quart
used for torches.
Interested in the trailer???

Those small cylinders hold enough propane to blow up you boat.. There for
you are dealing with the same risks..

I use them for my small SeaCook gimbled single burner stove, however I
remove the cylinder and store it in the cockpit locker when not in use.

Steve
s/v Good Intentions

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Steve wrote:
"Fred Allen" wrote in message
om...

It's only the LITTLE can about a quart
used for torches.
Interested in the trailer???


Those small cylinders hold enough propane to blow up you boat.. There for
you are dealing with the same risks..

I use them for my small SeaCook gimbled single burner stove, however I
remove the cylinder and store it in the cockpit locker when not in use.

Steve

The major dangers of propane a

Asphyxiation - leaking propane displaces air to the point where
there remains insufficient oxygen to sustain life. This is
especially dangerous in areas used for sleeping. If ventilation is
poor, only a few liquid ounces of propane such as might be contained
in small lighter refilling cans or hair curler cartridges can fill a
small sailboat's cabin with enough evaporated gaseous propane.

Explosion - leaking propane accumulates in lower parts of the boat
until it is ignited by a spark from an electrical switch or other
source or pilot light.

Fire - leaking propane gas can accumulate in calm winds, and
"puddle" near the boat. Even with a slight wind, this puddle can be
ignited by sparks outside the boat, causing the entire cloud to burn
or explode. Small leaks inside can be ignited easily, and can cause
fire, which can burn hoses, releasing larger amounts of propane.

Fines - It is illegal to store propane canisters in any area used
for sleeping, or to refill certain containers.

Properly handled, propane is otherwise safe and convenient.

I keep all propane cans in the cockpit near the cockpit drains which
discharge at a point above the waterline. I check the drains are
free running often if there is propane stored in the cockpit.

Terry K

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"Fred Allen" wrote in message
. com...
It's only the LITTLE can about a quart
used for torches.
Interested in the trailer???

On Thu, 6 May 2004 07:10:18 -0700, "Steve" wrote:

Those small cylinders hold enough propane to blow up you boat.. There for
you are dealing with the same risks..

I'll second that.

I use them for my small SeaCook gimbled single burner stove, however I
remove the cylinder and store it in the cockpit locker when not in use.

Steve, I wonder if that cockpit locker can "leak" into the hull? Is a
an on deck one? Not being a smart A or anything, and I know you have
your act together, but I have seen folks store them in a side cockpit
locker that goes right into the hull. Either directly in the hull or
so-called "sealed" with no vent to outside on the bottom. Propane is
heavier than air and will settle into the bilge. One spark and boats
have been split in two, and/or the deck goes flying.

When I used the little cans for stoves, I always put the can in the
galley sink. Kind of an open top propane locker with the drain :-)

Rick

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I think y'all have covered the comment about Propane now.
It was written by the former owner in his ad for
the boat. (check the site again..)
(I keep the stuff in the 13ft Boston Whaler
that I tow/lifeboat/dinghy for an old man....)

Here's the 'scoop'...
The little bottles don't have the overpressure
relief valve as on the big ones. I've seen them
go thru fires on big and small boats, and not
explode, or even leak. (maybe luck for the owners or...)
I STILL don't trust it and mainly use the microwave...

....got aboard first boat in 1947/owned 15-20 boats
in various states of decomposition over the years
(one time owned 7 at once...stupid!!!)
worked in 4/5 yards/deliveries all over east coast/
retired now...Where were U in 1947???
(no offense intended)

I accomplished my purpose...
Interested in the trailer????


Rick Morel wrote in message . ..
"Fred Allen" wrote in message
. com...
It's only the LITTLE can about a quart
used for torches.
Interested in the trailer???

On Thu, 6 May 2004 07:10:18 -0700, "Steve" wrote:

Those small cylinders hold enough propane to blow up you boat.. There for
you are dealing with the same risks..

I'll second that.

I use them for my small SeaCook gimbled single burner stove, however I
remove the cylinder and store it in the cockpit locker when not in use.

Steve, I wonder if that cockpit locker can "leak" into the hull? Is a
an on deck one? Not being a smart A or anything, and I know you have
your act together, but I have seen folks store them in a side cockpit
locker that goes right into the hull. Either directly in the hull or
so-called "sealed" with no vent to outside on the bottom. Propane is
heavier than air and will settle into the bilge. One spark and boats
have been split in two, and/or the deck goes flying.

When I used the little cans for stoves, I always put the can in the
galley sink. Kind of an open top propane locker with the drain :-)

Rick

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Skipper Bob's Anchorages Along the Intracoastal Waterway has served us well.

I found it to be so-so. It showed anchorages, including anchorages that
weren't there and anchorages you didn't want to go into that righ next to
anchorages that you did. A good set of current charts seemed to be more
useful.

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however I
remove the cylinder and store it in the cockpit locker when not in use.

I find that sometimes -- not often, but sometimes -- those little cylinders
leak. I too store them in the cockpit.

Cruising in Poverty
 

Properly handled, propane is otherwise safe and convenient.

I like my Atomic-4 gasoline engine as backup incase my propane stove doesn't
explode first. :-)