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On Mon, 03 May 2004 12:50:27 -0400, Kelton
wrote:

Where the heck do you find enough storage for a years supply of food on
a Coronado 35? I'm having trouble finding space for two months on my 37'
Irwin.
Kelton
Isle Escape

As it said in the ads back then, the C 35 has the room of a 45-footer.
It really does. Lots more than an Irwin 37 (I'm familiar with them).
Cans and cans of stuff, many gallon plastic containers of rice, dried
beans, flour, corn meal, sugar, powdered milk etc. Keep a reasonable
amount in the cabinets and pantry, then "restock" from stowage every
now and then. Of course some things, such as real potatoes and onions
and refrigerated stuff require more often replacement. No big deal to
run out and switch to canned or dried for a while. Sometimes it was a
pretty long while rather than return to "civilization" :-)

Rick

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On 03 May 2004 21:22:21 GMT, (Location29) wrote:
Original poster here,
Thanks for the responses to my question, very
much appreciated. I probably should have said
that my lifestyle is a simple one and I'll be single handing about 80% of the
time. I realize marinas
are not going to be the norm and anchoring/mooring
will be my lot in life. With that in mind any recommendations on boat type??
Shallow draft would be an advantage I suppose. My plan is to
sail mostly the Florida area, any areas with cheaper
marinas? I know the keys are high priced.

Shallow draft is a lot easier to live with along the SW Florida coast
and the keys. A lot harder to live with offshore. Also generally poor
performance to windward. It's all a tradeoff. As a rule of thumb, a
5-1/2 ft. draft (what ours was) cuts out half the places you can go
with a 4-1/2; a 4-1/2 ft. draft cuts out half the places you can go
with 3-1/2.

Yes, the keys are high priced, but you _can_ find some reasonable
marinas there if you look. Mostly small fishing ones that have some
slips. Mostly anywhere, transient fees are way up there but paying for
a month is not too bad every now and then. Actually, with your income
you could afford to spend all the time you want at monthly costs.
Well, until you get down about halfway.

Be advised that plenty, if not most, of the "traditional" South FL
anchorages are no more. Seems the rich yankees want a clear view and
push the local governments to do away with them.

Rick

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time. I realize marinas
are not going to be the norm and anchoring/mooring
will be my lot in life.

Mark, with only $1500 a month in disposable income, you can forget the
marinas. If you really need to tie up then look for back water fishing or
commercial facilities where they will let you live aboard. Most marinas now
charge extra or just don't allow you to liveaboard..

Another point... Most marinas will require that you have liability insurance
on you boat and to get this, many insurance agents push you into a full
coverage package.
A $20,000 may be hard to get insured (if a survey is required).

Once you find and purchase a boat, you biggest savings, after forgetting the
marina, will be boat repair and maintenance. Learn it and do it all
yourself.. The shops and services from shore, will charge you $60 to $100/hr
to do anything on your boat. And if you hire "casual help" off on the dock,
you will get what you pay for and often less..

Steve
s/v Good Intentions

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"Remco Moedt" wrote in message laundry...how do
you wash your clothes?

If your truly cruising, your clothing needs will be fairly simple. The best
laundry system I have found is a bucket on the fwd deck. The motion of the
boat will slush the water around as good as a washing machine.

I have played around with this some and found one of those after market
screw-on lids for a standard,round, 5 gal., plastic pail. This allowed us to
lay the bucket on it's side once filled with water, detergent and clothes.
The 'slushing' action was better if the pail lay so the bottom and top were
port/stbd and held in place with bungie cords.

We were able to do about half a normal machine load at a time in a 5 gal.
pail..

If your not underway, then the old plunger in the bucket works also..

My largest problem with any hand/boat laundry situation is the wringing out
the water. If too much water is left in the clothes they take for ever to
dry (especially in the tropics). Hand wringing is hard on the fabric and
ruins the shape of most knit wear. The next best thing is a hand crank
roller wringer. The old ones that you might find at garage sales will
usually have deteriorated rubber rollers.
The new ones a more novelty than functional. I have been using a commercial
mop wringer but that is hard to mount or store.

To conserve water (as we did in the old days on the farm), we would wash
the white first then the colored in the same water. This means that you have
to catch and retain the water as you wring it out between wash and rinse.
This means you need several buckets or tubs.

After all of this is tried, I suspect that most living aboard at anchor or
maraina, will opt for the nearest laundrimat..

Steve
s/v Good Intentions

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From your website: "I made and installed a Galley Organizer behind the
stove.
It holds the propane bottle, along with plates,
silver ware, salt/pepper, place for spices"

Oh man, you should rethink the propane placement and get it isolated
outside the living quarters.

(Fred Allen) wrote in message . com...
(Location29) wrote in message ...
I've only got $20,000 for a boat and a paltry $1500.
a month in income is there any hope for me to cruise fulltime
or should I just go buy a condo with a water view?

Hi...
Been there..Done that..(almost)
Bought My MAC X-boat last year AND living on half that.
Go2 my page and see AND keep in touch...

http://www.angelfire.com/biz/WritersWeb/update3.html

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"Steve" wrote


we would wash
the white first then the colored in the same water.

This was before desegregation, right?

SV

Cruising in Poverty
 

It's only the LITTLE can about a quart
used for torches.
Interested in the trailer???



(Mark) wrote in message . com...
From your website: "I made and installed a Galley Organizer behind the
stove.
It holds the propane bottle, along with plates,
silver ware, salt/pepper, place for spices"

Oh man, you should rethink the propane placement and get it isolated
outside the living quarters.

(Fred Allen) wrote in message . com...
(Location29) wrote in message ...
I've only got $20,000 for a boat and a paltry $1500.
a month in income is there any hope for me to cruise fulltime
or should I just go buy a condo with a water view?

Hi...
Been there..Done that..(almost)
Bought My MAC X-boat last year AND living on half that.
Go2 my page and see AND keep in touch...

http://www.angelfire.com/biz/WritersWeb/update3.html

Cruising in Poverty
 

Location29 wrote:
Depends. What is your lifestyle? Are you going to cruise from marina
to marina or anchor out? Boat. Sailboat? How big do you think you
need? Must you have a "late model" or is an much older one in good
condition okay? BRBR

Original poster here,
Thanks for the responses to my question, very
much appreciated. I probably should have said
that my lifestyle is a simple one and I'll be single handing about 80% of the
time. I realize marinas
are not going to be the norm and anchoring/mooring
will be my lot in life. With that in mind any recommendations on boat type??
Shallow draft would be an advantage I suppose. My plan is to
sail mostly the Florida area, any areas with cheaper
marinas? I know the keys are high priced.

Mark


Do you want mere subsistance, or are you interested in making some
money?

I might want a cool Canadian summer labour force to work on my dock
on the St. John River for a few weeks, if you want to consider
something like that.

Remove nospam to reply.

Terry K

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Where can you find a water view condo for $20K?
DSK wrote:

Location29 wrote:

I've only got $20,000 for a boat and a paltry $1500.
a month in income is there any hope for me to cruise fulltime or
should I just go buy a condo with a water view?


A condo would be a lot less work. But you have much less flexibility
in choosing your neighbors.

DSK

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Several posters have recommended that you anchor out rather than use
marinas. I completely agree but worry about making that happen. The
cruising guides with which I am familiar tout the marinas (probably
because they are the ones who buy ads in the guides). The guides seem
to rarely tell about very many good anchorages and, importantly, where
you can land your dingy. Can anyone recommend guides for the East
Coast and the Bahamas that emphasis anchoring or at least give it fair
coverage?

Lee Huddleston
s/v Truelove
lying Sea Gate Marina
Beaufort, NC