On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 19:44:13 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 16:49:06 -0400, Glenn Ashmore
wrote:

SGC must have hired some folks from Lucas.

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Ahhh Lucas, Prince of Darkness...


I must be biassed. I ran an XKE of that vintage for 5 years without a
mentionable electrical snag. But I did change the radiator header
tank. Twice.

But I must be biassed because I later ran several American made cars
of similar vintage. Electrical rubbish! Starters, generators,
alternators. Fuse boxes. Yuck! Then along came the Japanese......

Brian W

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 16:49:06 -0400, Glenn Ashmore
wrote:

SGC must have hired some folks from Lucas.

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Ahhh Lucas, Prince of Darkness...

Question: Why do the English drink warm beer?

Answer: Lucas also builds refrigerators...

--
Ken Heaton & Anne Tobin
Cape Breton Island, Canada
kenheaton AT ess wye dee DOT eastlink DOT ca

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 16:49:06 -0400, Glenn Ashmore
wrote:

SGC must have hired some folks from Lucas.

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Ahhh Lucas, Prince of Darkness...

Question: Why do the English drink warm beer?

Answer: Lucas also builds refrigerators...

--
Ken Heaton & Anne Tobin
Cape Breton Island, Canada
kenheaton AT ess wye dee DOT eastlink DOT ca

On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 16:49:06 -0400, Glenn Ashmore
wrote (with possible editing):

I hate to agree but that SGC tranciever reminds me of my '67 Jag XKE.
When it was running it ran like a bat out of H@*l. When it was running.
Somehow I think SGC must have hired some folks from Lucas. :-)

I can't resist - I had a 62 or 63 XKE. Went up on a body lift and the
two front wheels fell off. That was it!

Also agree on SGC - one of the worst reputations in radio today. I
think Larry's being generous at $100 - he must like tinkering!
--

Larry W1HJF

On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 16:49:06 -0400, Glenn Ashmore
wrote (with possible editing):

I hate to agree but that SGC tranciever reminds me of my '67 Jag XKE.
When it was running it ran like a bat out of H@*l. When it was running.
Somehow I think SGC must have hired some folks from Lucas. :-)

I can't resist - I had a 62 or 63 XKE. Went up on a body lift and the
two front wheels fell off. That was it!

Also agree on SGC - one of the worst reputations in radio today. I
think Larry's being generous at $100 - he must like tinkering!
--

Larry W1HJF

"Brian Whatcott" wrote

I must be biassed. I ran an XKE of that vintage for 5 years without a
mentionable electrical snag.

Your experiences are typical. I mechaniced at Brit car dealers and rode
Brit "skooters" in those days. We had no more trouble with Lucas than other
brands. In fact some replaced their Euro and early Japanese stuff with
Lucas for better reliability.

Electronics are weird. Theoretically, there's no reason for a transistor or
diode to fail, but they do; so often that the telco used tube (valve) type
amplifiers in undersea cables. So, as wiring, et cetera, age we see problems
that never occurred when the cars were new and often nobody knows why.

Wire and other manufacturers made a big leap in materials and QA about the
time Japan's industries became prominent and much of their legendary
reliability can be traced to this vs anything uniquely Japanese (ie,
American, Brit and Euro electrics got better about the same time). Most
early Japanese wiring harnesses were "manufactured" by old grandmothers in
1000 seperate home basements using plywood patterns with wire colors penned
on them in color - hardly high tech but equally good, and even better if
grandma had better insulated and tempered wires..

My dream car? An early XKE coupe with a 450 HP 427 Ford ......

"Brian Whatcott" wrote

I must be biassed. I ran an XKE of that vintage for 5 years without a
mentionable electrical snag.

Your experiences are typical. I mechaniced at Brit car dealers and rode
Brit "skooters" in those days. We had no more trouble with Lucas than other
brands. In fact some replaced their Euro and early Japanese stuff with
Lucas for better reliability.

Electronics are weird. Theoretically, there's no reason for a transistor or
diode to fail, but they do; so often that the telco used tube (valve) type
amplifiers in undersea cables. So, as wiring, et cetera, age we see problems
that never occurred when the cars were new and often nobody knows why.

Wire and other manufacturers made a big leap in materials and QA about the
time Japan's industries became prominent and much of their legendary
reliability can be traced to this vs anything uniquely Japanese (ie,
American, Brit and Euro electrics got better about the same time). Most
early Japanese wiring harnesses were "manufactured" by old grandmothers in
1000 seperate home basements using plywood patterns with wire colors penned
on them in color - hardly high tech but equally good, and even better if
grandma had better insulated and tempered wires..

My dream car? An early XKE coupe with a 450 HP 427 Ford ......

L. M. Rappaport wrote in
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Also agree on SGC - one of the worst reputations in radio today. I
think Larry's being generous at $100 - he must like tinkering!
--

I'm a hard-core technician and have a shop. I like dogs...(c;

73, Larry W4CSC

L. M. Rappaport wrote in
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Also agree on SGC - one of the worst reputations in radio today. I
think Larry's being generous at $100 - he must like tinkering!
--

I'm a hard-core technician and have a shop. I like dogs...(c;

73, Larry W4CSC

I've had excellent luck with the SGC-230 tuner. Out in the elements
for 5+ years and didn't skip a beat. Maybe yours had a bad seal.

Doug, k3qt
s/v Callista

"Leanne" wrote in message
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"Glenn Ashmore" wrote in message
news:sHzjc.432$Lm3.294@lakeread04...
I hate to agree but that SGC tranciever reminds me of my '67 Jag XKE.
When it was running it ran like a bat out of H@*l. When it was running.
Somehow I think SGC must have hired some folks from Lucas. :-)

Ah ha, you know about Sir Lucas, The Prince of Darkness. When I put our
ham radio on the boat, right after the 1st generation IC-706 came out, I
ordered the
SGC 230 Tuner. It lasted about one year and it was so crudded up that I
scrapped it
and replaced it with an AH-4 and in 6 years or so, it has worked as
advertised. Both
tuners were mounted in the same place on the pushpit. If SGC ever needs a
spokes
person, I would at the bottom of the list.

Leanne