On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 21:46:54 -0500, cavelamb himself
wrote:

Not necessarily straw-men. An airline pilot with an atr, perhaps
backed with a cpl multiengine - ir, is not permited to fly a single
alone until he obtains that class

Brian W



That's just plain not true.

try again

Ha! I thought you were a pilot. But now I see you are not.

Brian W

On Sep 1, 4:18*am, wrote:
....
None of which matters one bit. You need a Safe Boating Certificate in
CT. A Master Mariner's ticket doesn't cut it, because it is for
something else, with different requirements.

To quote from the Connecticut Boater's Guide:

http://www.ct.gov/dep/lib/dep/boatin...e/part1_08.pdf

A person who has a valid vessel operator license by the United
States Coast Guard does not require a Safe Boating Certificate. They
must have a copy of the license on board the recreational vessel on
which they are operating.

-- Tom.

On Mon, 1 Sep 2008 10:08:44 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

On Sep 1, 4:18*am, wrote:
...
None of which matters one bit. You need a Safe Boating Certificate in
CT. A Master Mariner's ticket doesn't cut it, because it is for
something else, with different requirements.

To quote from the Connecticut Boater's Guide:

http://www.ct.gov/dep/lib/dep/boatin...e/part1_08.pdf

A person who has a valid vessel operator license by the United
States Coast Guard does not require a Safe Boating Certificate. They
must have a copy of the license on board the recreational vessel on
which they are operating.

-- Tom.

Does NOT cover PWC's! Read it again, but more slowly this time.

On Mon, 01 Sep 2008 13:56:52 -0400, wrote:

To quote from the Connecticut Boater's Guide:

http://www.ct.gov/dep/lib/dep/boatin...e/part1_08.pdf

A person who has a valid vessel operator license by the United
States Coast Guard does not require a Safe Boating Certificate. They
must have a copy of the license on board the recreational vessel on
which they are operating.

-- Tom.

Does NOT cover PWC's! Read it again, but more slowly this time.

My PWC is 49 ft long, 32 net tons.

On Sep 1, 10:56*am, wrote:
....
Does NOT cover PWC's! Read it again, but more slowly this time.

Man, why the vitriol? I've been impressed with your knowledgeable,
helpful and well presented cruising tips in another thread. I'd
welcome the same kind of conversation here.

It seems to me that you're shifting ground and I hate to get drawn
into it but just for clarity. You said that: "You need a Safe Boating
Certificate in CT. A Master Mariner's ticket doesn't cut it." The
citation I linked to states that a person who has a US CG license does
not require a "Safe Boating Certificate". The SBC covers all cruising
boats and their support craft except for PWCs, so for r.b.c readers it
is likely the pertinent cert.

It is true that CT also grants a Certificate of Personal Watercraft
Operation. The CPWO allows users to operate PWCs as well as vessels
covered by the SBC. The CPWO is not the SBC which is the ticket I
thought we were talking about since it covers virtually all cruising
vessels and since you used that specific term. It does appear from
the wording in the CT book that CT doesn't accept a CG lic. in place
of a CPWO. While I suspect that CT does not have the authority to
require federally licensed mariners to get a CPWO I don't actually
care very much. The only thing you need a CPWO for in CT is PWCs and
I don't have any desire to PWC in CT and doubt that many other
cruisers do either.

-- Tom.

On Mon, 01 Sep 2008 14:30:25 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Mon, 01 Sep 2008 13:56:52 -0400, wrote:

To quote from the Connecticut Boater's Guide:

http://www.ct.gov/dep/lib/dep/boatin...e/part1_08.pdf

A person who has a valid vessel operator license by the United
States Coast Guard does not require a Safe Boating Certificate. They
must have a copy of the license on board the recreational vessel on
which they are operating.

-- Tom.

Does NOT cover PWC's! Read it again, but more slowly this time.

My PWC is 49 ft long, 32 net tons.

If you say so, Wayne! Do you buzz around in circles near the beach
with it? LOL

On Mon, 1 Sep 2008 12:59:24 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

On Sep 1, 10:56*am, wrote:
...
Does NOT cover PWC's! Read it again, but more slowly this time.

Man, why the vitriol? I've been impressed with your knowledgeable,
helpful and well presented cruising tips in another thread. I'd
welcome the same kind of conversation here.


Sorry, your first response inthis thtread came across as a very smug,
"USCG cert means I know everything attitude. It was all downhiill from
there.

It seems to me that you're shifting ground and I hate to get drawn
into it but just for clarity. You said that: "You need a Safe Boating
Certificate in CT. A Master Mariner's ticket doesn't cut it." The
citation I linked to states that a person who has a US CG license does
not require a "Safe Boating Certificate". The SBC covers all cruising
boats and their support craft except for PWCs, so for r.b.c readers it
is likely the pertinent cert.

It is true that CT also grants a Certificate of Personal Watercraft
Operation. The CPWO allows users to operate PWCs as well as vessels
covered by the SBC. The CPWO is not the SBC which is the ticket I
thought we were talking about since it covers virtually all cruising
vessels and since you used that specific term. It does appear from
the wording in the CT book that CT doesn't accept a CG lic. in place
of a CPWO. While I suspect that CT does not have the authority to
require federally licensed mariners to get a CPWO I don't actually
care very much. The only thing you need a CPWO for in CT is PWCs and
I don't have any desire to PWC in CT and doubt that many other
cruisers do either.


I sense a post from PWC Cruiser, Rich Forman, coming along shortly!

On Sep 1, 1:35*pm, wrote:
On Mon, 1 Sep 2008 12:59:24 -0700 (PDT), "
....
Sorry, your first response inthis thtread came across as a very smug,
"USCG cert means I know everything attitude. It was all downhiill from
there.

Oh. I didn't intent to suggest that at all. It is certainly not
true. My writing skills are pretty grim and I have got a particularly
poor handle on inflection. It doesn't surprise me that screwed it up
but the smugness wasn't intentional. Thanks for pointing it out and
I'm sorry for the mistake.

....
I don't have any desire to PWC in CT and doubt that many other
cruisers do either.

I sense a post from PWC Cruiser, Rich Forman, coming along shortly!

My bad. I look forward the post though. Actually, now that I think of
it, a PWC camping cruise along the inside passage might be a hoot but
CT still doesn't draw me for PWCing. Are there any places you can get
ashore for camping in Connecticut during the summer?

-- Tom.

On Mon, 1 Sep 2008 14:08:28 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

On Sep 1, 1:35*pm, wrote:
On Mon, 1 Sep 2008 12:59:24 -0700 (PDT), "
...
Sorry, your first response inthis thtread came across as a very smug,
"USCG cert means I know everything attitude. It was all downhiill from
there.

Oh. I didn't intent to suggest that at all. It is certainly not
true. My writing skills are pretty grim and I have got a particularly
poor handle on inflection. It doesn't surprise me that screwed it up
but the smugness wasn't intentional. Thanks for pointing it out and
I'm sorry for the mistake.


Glad we got things back on track. This is much better.

...
I don't have any desire to PWC in CT and doubt that many other
cruisers do either.

I sense a post from PWC Cruiser, Rich Forman, coming along shortly!

My bad. I look forward the post though. Actually, now that I think of
it, a PWC camping cruise along the inside passage might be a hoot but
CT still doesn't draw me for PWCing. Are there any places you can get
ashore for camping in Connecticut during the summer?


Anywhere you don't get caught! My first cruising experiences were as a
teenager in the 1960's in various small, often wooden, and always
decrepit, sailboats. I would sail to "somewhere" and camp on shore.
Usually sans tent. If the weather was especially bad, I would unstep
the mast and turn the boat over for shelter. I really miss those days.
I was the only sailor and camper in my immediate family. Even today, I
sometimes leave everyone behind, and go away by myself for a few days
of solitude on the water. Nicer boat, now...

On Sep 1, 2:58*pm, wrote:
On Mon, 1 Sep 2008 14:08:28 -0700 (PDT), "
...*Are there any places you can get
ashore for camping in Connecticut during the summer?

Anywhere you don't get caught! My first cruising experiences were as a
teenager in the 1960's in various small, often wooden, and always
decrepit, sailboats. I would sail to "somewhere" and camp on shore.
Usually sans tent. If the weather was especially bad, I would unstep
the mast and turn the boat over for shelter. ...

Very cool. I grew up reading the Ransome books and Capt. Voss and so
on and have always had a romantic vision of small boat camping.

-- Tom.