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Ryk August 18th 08 04:16 PM

Boat winches KNOL
 
On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 11:41:37 -0700, in message
lutions
"Capt. JG" wrote:

"Ryk" wrote in message


It is possible to configure most large winches to work either
clockwise or counter-clockwise.


Why would you want to do this?


I can imagine some special situations where the line feed or
handedness issues might show up. Then again it might just be bad
design that allows the pawls to be inserted in either direction...

Ryk


Capt. JG August 18th 08 06:06 PM

Boat winches KNOL
 
"Ryk" wrote in message
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On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 11:41:37 -0700, in message
lutions
"Capt. JG" wrote:

"Ryk" wrote in message


It is possible to configure most large winches to work either
clockwise or counter-clockwise.


Why would you want to do this?


I can imagine some special situations where the line feed or
handedness issues might show up. Then again it might just be bad
design that allows the pawls to be inserted in either direction...

Ryk



It would also confuse the hell out just about everyone. LOL

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"j" ganz @@
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Richard Casady August 18th 08 10:52 PM

Boat winches KNOL
 
On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 11:16:26 -0400, Ryk
wrote:

Then again it might just be bad
design that allows the pawls to be inserted in either direction...


Why is that bad design? What is the downside to offering the option.
What I think are cool are the two speed winches.

Casady

Capt. JG August 18th 08 11:01 PM

Boat winches KNOL
 
"Richard Casady" wrote in message
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On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 11:16:26 -0400, Ryk
wrote:

Then again it might just be bad
design that allows the pawls to be inserted in either direction...


Why is that bad design? What is the downside to offering the option.
What I think are cool are the two speed winches.

Casady



I guess there would be a very limited number of times one would want a winch
that goes in the wrong direction. Perhaps, ask Ryk said, if there was an
issue with lines, but how often would that come up realistically?

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"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com




Vic Smith August 18th 08 11:10 PM

Boat winches KNOL
 
On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 21:52:04 GMT, (Richard
Casady) wrote:

On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 11:16:26 -0400, Ryk
wrote:

Then again it might just be bad
design that allows the pawls to be inserted in either direction...


Why is that bad design? What is the downside to offering the option.
What I think are cool are the two speed winches.

That reminds me. There was a web journal called "Bumfuzzle" where a
young couple bought a 35' cat in Lauderdale and took off around the
world. They had one class in sailing.
Successful circumnavigation, and an entertaining journal.
Anyway, they were halfway across the Pacific before the Skipper found
out he had 2 speeds on his most often used winch.
No wonder it was so hard to crank.
He was mocked by the armchair guys when he wrote about it, but just
got a kick out of that since he was sailing around the world and they
were ......in their armchairs.
I got the impression 2-speed winches are common.
What little winching I've done was with a 1-speed.

--Vic

Capt. JG August 18th 08 11:35 PM

Boat winches KNOL
 
"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 21:52:04 GMT, (Richard
Casady) wrote:

On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 11:16:26 -0400, Ryk
wrote:

Then again it might just be bad
design that allows the pawls to be inserted in either direction...


Why is that bad design? What is the downside to offering the option.
What I think are cool are the two speed winches.

That reminds me. There was a web journal called "Bumfuzzle" where a
young couple bought a 35' cat in Lauderdale and took off around the
world. They had one class in sailing.
Successful circumnavigation, and an entertaining journal.
Anyway, they were halfway across the Pacific before the Skipper found
out he had 2 speeds on his most often used winch.
No wonder it was so hard to crank.
He was mocked by the armchair guys when he wrote about it, but just
got a kick out of that since he was sailing around the world and they
were ......in their armchairs.
I got the impression 2-speed winches are common.
What little winching I've done was with a 1-speed.

--Vic



I have two of them, both self-tailers on my Sabre. They're great. Makes life
much easier.

I also have two, good-size, one-speed winches on port/starboard on the mast
(main and jib halyards), and one small one-speed for my mainsheet.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com




Richard Casady August 18th 08 11:56 PM

Boat winches KNOL
 
On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:10:59 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

That reminds me. There was a web journal called "Bumfuzzle" where a
young couple bought a 35' cat in Lauderdale and took off around the
world. They had one class in sailing.
Successful circumnavigation, and an entertaining journal.
Anyway, they were halfway across the Pacific before the Skipper found
out he had 2 speeds on his most often used winch.
No wonder it was so hard to crank.
He was mocked by the armchair guys when he wrote about it, but just
got a kick out of that since he was sailing around the world and they
were ......in their armchairs.
I got the impression 2-speed winches are common.
What little winching I've done was with a 1-speed.


There used to be something called a Fol-boat, that folded up into a
package the size of a large suitcase. One guy crossed the Atlantic,
from England to Panama in one. A buck eighty six to go through the
Canal. They used to charge strictly by the ton, no minimum.

Casady

Vic Smith August 19th 08 12:03 AM

Boat winches KNOL
 
On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 22:56:25 GMT, (Richard
Casady) wrote:

There used to be something called a Fol-boat, that folded up into a
package the size of a large suitcase. One guy crossed the Atlantic,
from England to Panama in one. A buck eighty six to go through the
Canal. They used to charge strictly by the ton, no minimum.

I remember the Fol-boats. Advertised in all the "outdoor" mags.
The Alaskan Camper is another unusual/different approach to
something that interested me.
It was a pickup bed camper that had hydraulics to jack it up when
parked, giving more headroom. I resisted buying both.

--Vic

Richard Casady August 19th 08 04:10 AM

Boat winches KNOL
 
On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 15:01:03 -0700, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

I guess there would be a very limited number of times one would want a winch
that goes in the wrong direction. Perhaps, ask Ryk said, if there was an
issue with lines, but how often would that come up realistically?


Why does it make a difference which way you turn the handle? What
makes one way wrong and the other right? I don't buy it.

Casady

Capt. JG August 19th 08 05:34 AM

Boat winches KNOL
 
"Richard Casady" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 15:01:03 -0700, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

I guess there would be a very limited number of times one would want a
winch
that goes in the wrong direction. Perhaps, ask Ryk said, if there was an
issue with lines, but how often would that come up realistically?


Why does it make a difference which way you turn the handle? What
makes one way wrong and the other right? I don't buy it.

Casady



Nothing, except what 99.999% of all sailors are used to doing.

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"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com





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