On 19 Apr 2004 12:54:37 -0700, (muskrat) wrote:

Anyhow, I'm moored in Sneads Ferry and know every creek and channel
from Myrtle Beach to Cape Lookout, including New River and Bogue
inlets, where "local knowledge" means ten minutes ago. So let me know
if you need if you need any advice.

Hey Muskrat,

What's the latest on Lockwood's Folly. Heading up that way soon and
Corps of Engineers says there's only five feet there. Also would
appreciate info on New River area,apparently shopaled up there too. I
need six feet.. Are there many boats going north through Lockwood's
Folly or are most of them going outside.

Rick

Hi, Captain Rick,

Six feet on the ICW is always a risk, as you know, but I think you can
make it if you watch the tides.

Was last through Lockwoods in September while fleeing Hurricane
Isabelle and didn't have a problem. Granted I'm shallow draft, but I
don't recall any alarms going off. Shoaling there as well as at little
inlets from Sneads Ferry to Swansboro is definitely occurring, but the
tows and big shrimpers are passing by regularly and no doubt kicking
up the sand.

The secret will be to keep to the land side. In other words, go to
port at the first sign of trouble while heading north - especially
when traversing inlets - and even if this means getting uncomfortably
close to the west bank, and the coming spring tides should definitely
be an asset, as you already know.

The good news is that recent dredging projects just north of Camp
Lejeune, just south of Swansboro, and just south of Morehead have
removed problems there. My biggest worry would be, as always, the
stinking rock ledges between Barefoot Landing and Doc Holidays at
North Myrtle Beach.

Hope this helps, good sailing, and keep in touch.

Muskrat

My biggest worry would be, as always, the
stinking rock ledges between Barefoot Landing and Doc Holidays at
North Myrtle Beach.

Hope this helps, good sailing, and keep in touch.

Muskrat


Thanks Muskrat,

I don't mind the "rockpile" - there's lots of water there. Glad to
hear they're doing some dredging. I thought the Corps of Engineers
didn't have any funds. I ran aground in that turn before Swansboro
going north a few years ago. I gather that bad stretch south of
Morehead City is gone. If the weather's ok I'll go out at Charleston
and in at Wrightsville and then out again to Beaufort. I guess I'll
have to miss Barefoot.


Rick Itenson
La Belle Aurore
Toronto

Hey, Captain Rick,

Don't blame you a bit for going to the outside, especially if the
weather the calls for those lovely s'westerlies we usually can rely on
this time of year. Good chance to run up all sails, and no need to
bother with those pesky bridges, bridges, bridges. Please don't
hesitate to contact me if you need a crew - hint, hint.

By the way, the rockpile has gotten more interesting now that a
freaking big gambling boat runs through twice a day. Might be deep,
but sure is narrow - yikes!

Apologies to Capt. Bryan for hijacking thread.

Later, 'gators,
muskrat

Hey, Captain Rick,

Don't blame you a bit for going to the outside, especially if the
weather the calls for those lovely s'westerlies we usually can rely on
this time of year. Good chance to run up all sails, and no need to
bother with those pesky bridges, bridges, bridges. Please don't
hesitate to contact me if you need a crew - hint, hint.

By the way, the rockpile has gotten more interesting now that a
freaking big gambling boat runs through twice a day. Might be deep,
but sure is narrow - yikes!

Apologies to Capt. Bryan for hijacking thread.

Later, 'gators,
muskrat

My biggest worry would be, as always, the
stinking rock ledges between Barefoot Landing and Doc Holidays at
North Myrtle Beach.

Hope this helps, good sailing, and keep in touch.

Muskrat


Thanks Muskrat,

I don't mind the "rockpile" - there's lots of water there. Glad to
hear they're doing some dredging. I thought the Corps of Engineers
didn't have any funds. I ran aground in that turn before Swansboro
going north a few years ago. I gather that bad stretch south of
Morehead City is gone. If the weather's ok I'll go out at Charleston
and in at Wrightsville and then out again to Beaufort. I guess I'll
have to miss Barefoot.


Rick Itenson
La Belle Aurore
Toronto

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We've gone offshore more this trip than at any time in the past. Of
course we were in the Hawk Channel going up the Keys, and we went from
Indian Key up to Miami in one shot (we are a very slow boat and it
took us 13 hours) and anchored after dark off Key Biscayne. We
usually take a couple of days to do this trip, but the weather was
going to be really nasty (and WAS really nasty) and it wouldn't have
made any difference going up the bay side - would still have been
nasty. The difference with the Hawk Channel side is there's no place
for us to go with 5' draft and 58.5' mast. We just have to anchor and
take it.

Then after we visited daughter SIL and grandchildren we went Miami to
Ft. Pierce, and again from the St. Mary's River to Charleston. This
took 27 hours and went OK but we arrived in dense fog.

After we visit son, DIL and grandchildren there, we went from
Charleston to the Cape Fear River. This avoids the Rockpile, and
Lockwood's Folly both plus the Sunset Beach bridge which is aground at
low tide. We were going to arrive at 3 am so we had to tack a bit to
slow down so that someone would be at the marina when we got there,
and this took us 23 hours.

We are considering offshore from Masonboro (where we are now - Saw 8.3
ft at Carolina Beach when the tide was almost high - 3.7 feet) to
Morehead City, but probably will not.


(muskrat) wrote:

Hi, Captain Rick,

Six feet on the ICW is always a risk, as you know, but I think you can
make it if you watch the tides.

Was last through Lockwoods in September while fleeing Hurricane
Isabelle and didn't have a problem. Granted I'm shallow draft, but I
don't recall any alarms going off. Shoaling there as well as at little
inlets from Sneads Ferry to Swansboro is definitely occurring, but the
tows and big shrimpers are passing by regularly and no doubt kicking
up the sand.

The secret will be to keep to the land side. In other words, go to
port at the first sign of trouble while heading north - especially
when traversing inlets - and even if this means getting uncomfortably
close to the west bank, and the coming spring tides should definitely
be an asset, as you already know.

The good news is that recent dredging projects just north of Camp
Lejeune, just south of Swansboro, and just south of Morehead have
removed problems there. My biggest worry would be, as always, the
stinking rock ledges between Barefoot Landing and Doc Holidays at
North Myrtle Beach.

Hope this helps, good sailing, and keep in touch.

Muskrat

grandma Rosalie

x-no-archive:yes

We've gone offshore more this trip than at any time in the past. Of
course we were in the Hawk Channel going up the Keys, and we went from
Indian Key up to Miami in one shot (we are a very slow boat and it
took us 13 hours) and anchored after dark off Key Biscayne. We
usually take a couple of days to do this trip, but the weather was
going to be really nasty (and WAS really nasty) and it wouldn't have
made any difference going up the bay side - would still have been
nasty. The difference with the Hawk Channel side is there's no place
for us to go with 5' draft and 58.5' mast. We just have to anchor and
take it.

Then after we visited daughter SIL and grandchildren we went Miami to
Ft. Pierce, and again from the St. Mary's River to Charleston. This
took 27 hours and went OK but we arrived in dense fog.

After we visit son, DIL and grandchildren there, we went from
Charleston to the Cape Fear River. This avoids the Rockpile, and
Lockwood's Folly both plus the Sunset Beach bridge which is aground at
low tide. We were going to arrive at 3 am so we had to tack a bit to
slow down so that someone would be at the marina when we got there,
and this took us 23 hours.

We are considering offshore from Masonboro (where we are now - Saw 8.3
ft at Carolina Beach when the tide was almost high - 3.7 feet) to
Morehead City, but probably will not.


(muskrat) wrote:

Hi, Captain Rick,

Six feet on the ICW is always a risk, as you know, but I think you can
make it if you watch the tides.

Was last through Lockwoods in September while fleeing Hurricane
Isabelle and didn't have a problem. Granted I'm shallow draft, but I
don't recall any alarms going off. Shoaling there as well as at little
inlets from Sneads Ferry to Swansboro is definitely occurring, but the
tows and big shrimpers are passing by regularly and no doubt kicking
up the sand.

The secret will be to keep to the land side. In other words, go to
port at the first sign of trouble while heading north - especially
when traversing inlets - and even if this means getting uncomfortably
close to the west bank, and the coming spring tides should definitely
be an asset, as you already know.

The good news is that recent dredging projects just north of Camp
Lejeune, just south of Swansboro, and just south of Morehead have
removed problems there. My biggest worry would be, as always, the
stinking rock ledges between Barefoot Landing and Doc Holidays at
North Myrtle Beach.

Hope this helps, good sailing, and keep in touch.

Muskrat

grandma Rosalie

Hi, Captain Rick,

Six feet on the ICW is always a risk, as you know, but I think you can
make it if you watch the tides.

Was last through Lockwoods in September while fleeing Hurricane
Isabelle and didn't have a problem. Granted I'm shallow draft, but I
don't recall any alarms going off. Shoaling there as well as at little
inlets from Sneads Ferry to Swansboro is definitely occurring, but the
tows and big shrimpers are passing by regularly and no doubt kicking
up the sand.

The secret will be to keep to the land side. In other words, go to
port at the first sign of trouble while heading north - especially
when traversing inlets - and even if this means getting uncomfortably
close to the west bank, and the coming spring tides should definitely
be an asset, as you already know.

The good news is that recent dredging projects just north of Camp
Lejeune, just south of Swansboro, and just south of Morehead have
removed problems there. My biggest worry would be, as always, the
stinking rock ledges between Barefoot Landing and Doc Holidays at
North Myrtle Beach.

Hope this helps, good sailing, and keep in touch.

Muskrat

Rick Itenson wrote:
What's the latest on Lockwood's Folly. Heading up that way soon and
Corps of Engineers says there's only five feet there.

We went through last week at low tide, and it was about 5 1/2'

Go on a higher tide, keep to landward (as Muskrat said) and watch the
current. The tide fall is not a lot, but this lulls many people into a
false sense of security... the current is swift and it will pull you out
of the channel if you let it.


... Also would
appreciate info on New River area,apparently shopaled up there too.

Yes IMHO this is worse than Lockwood's Folly. There's a bigger area to
guess where the channel is. We bumped something (a log?) underwater
nearer the red-bouy side on the north/east side of the inlet. On the way
back we kept more toward the green and were all right.


... I
need six feet.. Are there many boats going north through Lockwood's
Folly or are most of them going outside.

There was a LOT of traffic going inside last week.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King