"Rodney Myrvaagnes" wrote in message

If I get enough confidence in the new autopilot I might try it this
year.


I use the autopilot for all of my sail handling and switch to the Aries
windvane once things settle down.. I'm very conservative about the sail I
fly while single handing and always have this nagging vision of me in the
water in my boats wake as it sails under vane or pilot without regard for
her missing skipper.

I wear a SOS w/harness but seldom clip in while in the cockpit. The tether
gets in the way around a tiller while managing sheets for both Genoa and
Staysail and Main.

I'm still trying to workout the routing of my jack lines since I have so
much going on on the cabin top. They may have to run down the side deck to
avoid tangles with the cabin top clutter.

Steve
s/v Good Intentions

On Mon, 05 Apr 2004 13:00:18 -0400, Rodney Myrvaagnes
wrote:


If I get enough confidence in the new autopilot I might try it this
year.

Rodney Myrvaagnes NYC J36 Gjo/a

Good on you, Rodney. With a J-boat, how could you resist?

I wish they made a cruiser...G

R.

On Tue, 06 Apr 2004 00:55:28 -0400, rhys wrote:

On Mon, 05 Apr 2004 13:00:18 -0400, Rodney Myrvaagnes
wrote:


If I get enough confidence in the new autopilot I might try it this
year.

Rodney Myrvaagnes NYC J36 Gjo/a

Good on you, Rodney. With a J-boat, how could you resist?

I wish they made a cruiser...G


I can resist until I have it all worked out in my mind. All spinnaker
flying has been double handed up to now, with my wife at the helm
while I get it up or down.

Last year we sprang for a geriatric aid, an ATN sock. Before that our
takedown (leeward) was fine as long as we were on the same jibe as we
had hoisted on.

But an odd number of jibes would leave us with the halyard and sheet
on opposite sides of the boat, where I couldn't reach them
simultaneously.

Our pole has both ends the same, so jibes are done dinghy style, and
only in light air. I don't see any way to do a dip pole without a
third person.





Rodney Myrvaagnes J36 Gjo/a

Entering your freshman dorm for the first time, and seeing
an axe head come through the door on your right.

On Tue, 06 Apr 2004 09:47:35 -0400, Rodney Myrvaagnes
wrote:
Our pole has both ends the same, so jibes are done dinghy style, and
only in light air. I don't see any way to do a dip pole without a
third person.

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It can be done with an autopilot and a little practice, at least in
light to moderate wind and seas.

The autopilot steers the boat on a dead run.

Boom is sheeted amidship, spinnaker pole, sheet and guy are squared.

Foredeck person goes forward to trip the pole off.

Cockpit person dips the topping lift.

Foredeck person brings pole through fore triangle and reclips to lazy
guy.

Cockpit person raises topping lift, foredeck returns to cockpit.

Mainsail is jibed over.

Sheets and guys retrimmed to new course.

Autopilot steers, crew returns to Margaritaville.

The advantage of sheeting the boom amidship during the jibe is that it
helps to keep the spinnaker full, and it is one less thing for the
cockpit person to be concerned with. This is risky in heavier air
however because the wind can catch the main and cause a broach.

On Tue, 06 Apr 2004 09:47:35 -0400, Rodney Myrvaagnes
wrote:
Our pole has both ends the same, so jibes are done dinghy style, and
only in light air. I don't see any way to do a dip pole without a
third person.

===============================

It can be done with an autopilot and a little practice, at least in
light to moderate wind and seas.

The autopilot steers the boat on a dead run.

Boom is sheeted amidship, spinnaker pole, sheet and guy are squared.

Foredeck person goes forward to trip the pole off.

Cockpit person dips the topping lift.

Foredeck person brings pole through fore triangle and reclips to lazy
guy.

Cockpit person raises topping lift, foredeck returns to cockpit.

Mainsail is jibed over.

Sheets and guys retrimmed to new course.

Autopilot steers, crew returns to Margaritaville.

The advantage of sheeting the boom amidship during the jibe is that it
helps to keep the spinnaker full, and it is one less thing for the
cockpit person to be concerned with. This is risky in heavier air
however because the wind can catch the main and cause a broach.

On Tue, 06 Apr 2004 09:47:35 -0400, Rodney Myrvaagnes
wrote:

I can resist until I have it all worked out in my mind. All spinnaker
flying has been double handed up to now, with my wife at the helm
while I get it up or down.

Agreed. I have a 33 1/2 footer, and it's no joke to wrestle that large
expanse of fabric.

Last year we sprang for a geriatric aid, an ATN sock. Before that our
takedown (leeward) was fine as long as we were on the same jibe as we
had hoisted on.

Gee, and here I thought an ATN sock was great for guys in their 40s
G

But an odd number of jibes would leave us with the halyard and sheet
on opposite sides of the boat, where I couldn't reach them
simultaneously.

Our pole has both ends the same, so jibes are done dinghy style, and
only in light air. I don't see any way to do a dip pole without a
third person.

I've seen that operation suffer with four crew running it on a C&C 41,
so three on your boat would seem to be a minimum. If conditions are
perfect, one can manage it, but conditions are rarely perfect, and to
be short-handed is the sailmaker's joy at best, and potentially a
dangerous broach situation at worst. Been there, done that, and helped
pull the foredecker back on board with a wind five knots faster than
we should have had a bloody chute up. My fingerprints are still on the
barrel of the winch, I think G.

You sound like a great candidate for a cruising spinnaker, poleless
variety. I just got one, and I'll post my comments after I launch.

R.

On Tue, 06 Apr 2004 09:47:35 -0400, Rodney Myrvaagnes
wrote:

I can resist until I have it all worked out in my mind. All spinnaker
flying has been double handed up to now, with my wife at the helm
while I get it up or down.

Agreed. I have a 33 1/2 footer, and it's no joke to wrestle that large
expanse of fabric.

Last year we sprang for a geriatric aid, an ATN sock. Before that our
takedown (leeward) was fine as long as we were on the same jibe as we
had hoisted on.

Gee, and here I thought an ATN sock was great for guys in their 40s
G

But an odd number of jibes would leave us with the halyard and sheet
on opposite sides of the boat, where I couldn't reach them
simultaneously.

Our pole has both ends the same, so jibes are done dinghy style, and
only in light air. I don't see any way to do a dip pole without a
third person.

I've seen that operation suffer with four crew running it on a C&C 41,
so three on your boat would seem to be a minimum. If conditions are
perfect, one can manage it, but conditions are rarely perfect, and to
be short-handed is the sailmaker's joy at best, and potentially a
dangerous broach situation at worst. Been there, done that, and helped
pull the foredecker back on board with a wind five knots faster than
we should have had a bloody chute up. My fingerprints are still on the
barrel of the winch, I think G.

You sound like a great candidate for a cruising spinnaker, poleless
variety. I just got one, and I'll post my comments after I launch.

R.

On Tue, 06 Apr 2004 00:55:28 -0400, rhys wrote:

On Mon, 05 Apr 2004 13:00:18 -0400, Rodney Myrvaagnes
wrote:


If I get enough confidence in the new autopilot I might try it this
year.

Rodney Myrvaagnes NYC J36 Gjo/a

Good on you, Rodney. With a J-boat, how could you resist?

I wish they made a cruiser...G


I can resist until I have it all worked out in my mind. All spinnaker
flying has been double handed up to now, with my wife at the helm
while I get it up or down.

Last year we sprang for a geriatric aid, an ATN sock. Before that our
takedown (leeward) was fine as long as we were on the same jibe as we
had hoisted on.

But an odd number of jibes would leave us with the halyard and sheet
on opposite sides of the boat, where I couldn't reach them
simultaneously.

Our pole has both ends the same, so jibes are done dinghy style, and
only in light air. I don't see any way to do a dip pole without a
third person.





Rodney Myrvaagnes J36 Gjo/a

Entering your freshman dorm for the first time, and seeing
an axe head come through the door on your right.

On Mon, 05 Apr 2004 13:00:18 -0400, Rodney Myrvaagnes
wrote:


If I get enough confidence in the new autopilot I might try it this
year.

Rodney Myrvaagnes NYC J36 Gjo/a

Good on you, Rodney. With a J-boat, how could you resist?

I wish they made a cruiser...G

R.

On Mon, 5 Apr 2004 07:28:24 -0700, "Steve" wrote:

Thanks for all the replys. However I will probably continue my practice on
my sheets and halyards (I'm too old to climb the mast or chase a wild genoa
sheet. (since I have never sailed (in 40+ yr) with a spinniker and at 67,
single handing I doubt I ever will).

Young whippersnapper. :-) Actually, I am 68. I only fly the chute when
my wife is with me. Single-handing, no. Not yet anyway.

If I get enough confidence in the new autopilot I might try it this
year.

Rodney Myrvaagnes NYC J36 Gjo/a


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