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Capt. JG wrote:
"Stephen Trapani" wrote in message ... Roger Long wrote: "Bruce in Bangkok" wrote Bush can read? OK, OK, it was a cheap shot. Not a cheap shot at all. Of course he can read. He has however, admitted on several occasions that he doesn't. If you know what is right, are firm in your convictions, and are guided by faith and prayer, there is nothing on paper you need to learn in order to make the right decisions. Facts are simply confusing and temptations to depart from the path of righteousness that the lord has laid out for you. Believe me, this is not satire. I'm absolutely serious. Gosh when a set-up is this easy, with moralizing about "facts" not getting in the way of predetermined biases; and with so many people needing to believe so many false facts to ridicule Bush, I just couldn't let this go. For those who want to retain their ignorant bias about Bush's reading, I recommend avoiding this link: http://www.usnews.com/usnews/news/ar...7bushbooks.htm Stephen Posting the same link yet again? Sorry, connection problem. Check this, but don't let your head explode! http://www.jibjab.com/view/209630 I subscribe to the Maher podcast and have seen and heard him many times. Was there something in the link having anything to do with what we are talking about here? If not, why did you recommend it? |
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On Jul 21, 6:11*pm, Herodotus wrote:
... Yes Tom, its a great magazine. It is not a technical as "Scientific American" which I have subscribed to since university days. It makes difficult subjects simple to understand without losing any of the essential parts. ... I subscribed to "Scientific American" for years and it is a good rag, too. But I let the subscription lapse when I went cruising because you can find it on news stands everywhere. I rarely find a "New Scientist" on display. An important distinction for those of us who are nomadic. -- Tom. |
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"Stephen Trapani" wrote in message
... Capt. JG wrote: "Stephen Trapani" wrote in message ... Roger Long wrote: "Bruce in Bangkok" wrote Bush can read? OK, OK, it was a cheap shot. Not a cheap shot at all. Of course he can read. He has however, admitted on several occasions that he doesn't. If you know what is right, are firm in your convictions, and are guided by faith and prayer, there is nothing on paper you need to learn in order to make the right decisions. Facts are simply confusing and temptations to depart from the path of righteousness that the lord has laid out for you. Believe me, this is not satire. I'm absolutely serious. Gosh when a set-up is this easy, with moralizing about "facts" not getting in the way of predetermined biases; and with so many people needing to believe so many false facts to ridicule Bush, I just couldn't let this go. For those who want to retain their ignorant bias about Bush's reading, I recommend avoiding this link: http://www.usnews.com/usnews/news/ar...7bushbooks.htm Stephen Posting the same link yet again? Sorry, connection problem. Check this, but don't let your head explode! http://www.jibjab.com/view/209630 I subscribe to the Maher podcast and have seen and heard him many times. Was there something in the link having anything to do with what we are talking about here? If not, why did you recommend it? I wasn't trying to get your head to explode! Nothing to recommend, except to vote for McCain if you like the way things have gone in the last 7 years. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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Capt. JG wrote:
"Stephen Trapani" wrote in message ... Capt. JG wrote: "Stephen Trapani" wrote in message ... Roger Long wrote: "Bruce in Bangkok" wrote Bush can read? OK, OK, it was a cheap shot. Not a cheap shot at all. Of course he can read. He has however, admitted on several occasions that he doesn't. If you know what is right, are firm in your convictions, and are guided by faith and prayer, there is nothing on paper you need to learn in order to make the right decisions. Facts are simply confusing and temptations to depart from the path of righteousness that the lord has laid out for you. Believe me, this is not satire. I'm absolutely serious. Gosh when a set-up is this easy, with moralizing about "facts" not getting in the way of predetermined biases; and with so many people needing to believe so many false facts to ridicule Bush, I just couldn't let this go. For those who want to retain their ignorant bias about Bush's reading, I recommend avoiding this link: http://www.usnews.com/usnews/news/ar...7bushbooks.htm Stephen Posting the same link yet again? Sorry, connection problem. Check this, but don't let your head explode! http://www.jibjab.com/view/209630 I subscribe to the Maher podcast and have seen and heard him many times. Was there something in the link having anything to do with what we are talking about here? If not, why did you recommend it? I wasn't trying to get your head to explode! Nothing to recommend, except to vote for McCain if you like the way things have gone in the last 7 years. Everything in my personal world, everything I contact even the government has been very good. Wouldn't want anything to change there. Things been pretty bad for you though, eh? Why do you think the president can change things for you? Stephen |
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"Stephen Trapani" wrote in message
... Capt. JG wrote: "Stephen Trapani" wrote in message ... Capt. JG wrote: "Stephen Trapani" wrote in message ... Roger Long wrote: "Bruce in Bangkok" wrote Bush can read? OK, OK, it was a cheap shot. Not a cheap shot at all. Of course he can read. He has however, admitted on several occasions that he doesn't. If you know what is right, are firm in your convictions, and are guided by faith and prayer, there is nothing on paper you need to learn in order to make the right decisions. Facts are simply confusing and temptations to depart from the path of righteousness that the lord has laid out for you. Believe me, this is not satire. I'm absolutely serious. Gosh when a set-up is this easy, with moralizing about "facts" not getting in the way of predetermined biases; and with so many people needing to believe so many false facts to ridicule Bush, I just couldn't let this go. For those who want to retain their ignorant bias about Bush's reading, I recommend avoiding this link: http://www.usnews.com/usnews/news/ar...7bushbooks.htm Stephen Posting the same link yet again? Sorry, connection problem. Check this, but don't let your head explode! http://www.jibjab.com/view/209630 I subscribe to the Maher podcast and have seen and heard him many times. Was there something in the link having anything to do with what we are talking about here? If not, why did you recommend it? I wasn't trying to get your head to explode! Nothing to recommend, except to vote for McCain if you like the way things have gone in the last 7 years. Everything in my personal world, everything I contact even the government has been very good. Wouldn't want anything to change there. Things been pretty bad for you though, eh? Why do you think the president can change things for you? Stephen Wrong again Stephen. Things have been very, very good for me and mine. That's not the point. Do you think Bush and Company had nothing to do with the last seven years? -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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Things been pretty bad for you though, eh? Why do you think the president can change things for you? Stephen Wrong again Stephen. Things have been very, very good for me and mine. That's not the point. Do you think Bush and Company had nothing to do with the last seven years? Stephen It seems that in history, a society or country is judged by its actions and impact upon and relationships with those around it. If you are personally very happy with the US role and actions in the world and with the performance and end state of the US economy as it is today, regardless of its impact upon you and your pocket, then for you the Bush government must be a good one. Then there is morality and the judgment of history. Maybe it may take a different view. What did the Bush government do to improve the lot of its citizens? War on drugs? - drug use is increasing. War on terror? citizens now seem more paranoid and afraid yet they are no safer. More jobs? No, unemployment is constantly on the rise. Housing?, Welfare safety net improved? Education? Less taxes? initiatives for greener, less polluting technology? Morality? What is moral about invading another sovereign state on a trumped up litany of lies without the given consent of the other member states of the UN to make your mates rich? I can't personally think of anything they did do excepting kill off a few more of its disadvantaged youth and discredit the USA in the eyes of the rest of the world. Its citizenry abroad are now far less safer than they were under Bill Clinton. Peter |
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On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:08:12 +1000, Herodotus
wrote: I can't personally think of anything they did do excepting kill off a few more of its disadvantaged youth and discredit the USA in the eyes of the rest of the world. Its citizenry abroad are now far less safer than they were under Bill Clinton. Peter Personally I think you should elect Bill's Monica to the presidency. She can't do any worse and she would be a lot more interesting to watch on television. Peter |
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Capt. JG wrote:
"Stephen Trapani" wrote in message ... Capt. JG wrote: "Stephen Trapani" wrote in message ... Capt. JG wrote: "Stephen Trapani" wrote in message ... Roger Long wrote: "Bruce in Bangkok" wrote Bush can read? OK, OK, it was a cheap shot. Not a cheap shot at all. Of course he can read. He has however, admitted on several occasions that he doesn't. If you know what is right, are firm in your convictions, and are guided by faith and prayer, there is nothing on paper you need to learn in order to make the right decisions. Facts are simply confusing and temptations to depart from the path of righteousness that the lord has laid out for you. Believe me, this is not satire. I'm absolutely serious. Gosh when a set-up is this easy, with moralizing about "facts" not getting in the way of predetermined biases; and with so many people needing to believe so many false facts to ridicule Bush, I just couldn't let this go. For those who want to retain their ignorant bias about Bush's reading, I recommend avoiding this link: http://www.usnews.com/usnews/news/ar...7bushbooks.htm Stephen Posting the same link yet again? Sorry, connection problem. Check this, but don't let your head explode! http://www.jibjab.com/view/209630 I subscribe to the Maher podcast and have seen and heard him many times. Was there something in the link having anything to do with what we are talking about here? If not, why did you recommend it? I wasn't trying to get your head to explode! Nothing to recommend, except to vote for McCain if you like the way things have gone in the last 7 years. Everything in my personal world, everything I contact even the government has been very good. Wouldn't want anything to change there. Things been pretty bad for you though, eh? Why do you think the president can change things for you? Stephen Wrong again Stephen. Things have been very, very good for me and mine. That's not the point. Do you think Bush and Company had nothing to do with the last seven years? If things have been so good for you and you think a Republican president has been largely responsible, why do you want that to change? Stephen |
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Herodotus wrote:
Things been pretty bad for you though, eh? Why do you think the president can change things for you? Stephen Wrong again Stephen. Things have been very, very good for me and mine. That's not the point. Do you think Bush and Company had nothing to do with the last seven years? Stephen It seems that in history, a society or country is judged by its actions and impact upon and relationships with those around it. If you are personally very happy with the US role and actions in the world and with the performance and end state of the US economy as it is today, regardless of its impact upon you and your pocket, then for you the Bush government must be a good one. Well, what I said is that things have been good for me. I'm not looking at forced regime change in Iraq or a president getting a blow job for answers on how my life is. Then there is morality and the judgment of history. Maybe it may take a different view. What did the Bush government do to improve the lot of its citizens? War on drugs? - drug use is increasing. War on terror? citizens now seem more paranoid and afraid yet they are no safer. More jobs? No, unemployment is constantly on the rise. Housing?, Welfare safety net improved? Education? Less taxes? initiatives for greener, less polluting technology? Morality? What is moral about invading another sovereign state on a trumped up litany of lies without the given consent of the other member states of the UN to make your mates rich? You do know that Congress makes the laws, right? And why are you blaming the President for all of those things? Do US presidents really have that much power? The blaming makes no sense and the lynch mob mentality holding Bush responsible for all of it is nothing more than mass hysteria. I can't personally think of anything they did do excepting kill off a few more of its disadvantaged youth and discredit the USA in the eyes of the rest of the world. Its citizenry abroad are now far less safer than they were under Bill Clinton. I wouldn't worry too much about the "discrediting." The US has been saving the world's asses for about a hundred years now and that doesn't appear to be about to change anytime soon. When they see how much better off Iraq, Afghanistan and the Middle East are ten years from now, along with whatever else we happen to have to do to stand up for freedom, they'll be singing a different tune. Or, the good people will anyway. There will still be tyrants trying to drum up hate against the leader of the free world though. Careful you don't let them fool you. Stephen |
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I wouldn't worry too much about the "discrediting." The US has been saving the world's asses for about a hundred years now and that doesn't appear to be about to change anytime soon. When they see how much better off Iraq, Afghanistan and the Middle East are ten years from now, along with whatever else we happen to have to do to stand up for freedom, they'll be singing a different tune. Or, the good people will anyway. There will still be tyrants trying to drum up hate against the leader of the free world though. Careful you don't let them fool you. Stephen Like in Vietnam, and Cambodia. I thought you got reamed in Somalia and never went back. Also, by our history books World War I started in 1914, not when the US decided to join. WWII started in September 1939, not over two years later when you finally decided to get involved after Pearl Harbour. Prior to that, several million Chinese had been killed since 1937 by invading Japanese forces without the US being concerned at all. The way I hear history told from many Americans, they were the sole combatants against the Japanese and Germans. Was Korea a victory for UN troops? Doubt it. It finally ended in a stalemate. I do not discount US involvement in the first and second World Wars, and like most people, do sincerely appreciate the US getting involved when it did, but please, don't pretend that you "saved the world's arses" . As for Iraq, Afghanistan and the entire Middle East being better off, you might find that history will evolve to negate Western involvement just as the Crusades in actuality made no more impact than a mosquito bite on an elephant's rear end. You (and the many allied troops - it is not solely a US war) can never win in Afghanistan for many of the same reasons you could have never won in Vietnam, but then we don't talk about our defeats do we? As for tyrants... This has gotten way off topic. Peter |
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On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 11:11:08 +1000, Herodotus
wrote: On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 17:57:45 -0700 (PDT), " wrote: On Jul 21, 5:31*pm, Herodotus wrote: ... I'm going to hide all my science books now and change my subscription name details to New Scientist and Scientific American. I first saw a copy of "New Scientist" in the laundry room at the Opua Marina in New Zealand in 01'. I thought "'New Scientist', eh, that will be some kind of touchy-feely new age thing, but it should amuse me while the clothing spins." Little did I know. I've been a subscriber every since. They go to my brother's house and one of the joys of home port is the knowledge that there will be a stack of them waiting for me. -- Tom. Yes Tom, its a great magazine. It is not a technical as "Scientific American" which I have subscribed to since university days. It makes difficult subjects simple to understand without losing any of the essential parts. What I like is that when I am away from home I can just logon on the web and read the articles anywhere. Nothing like the mental stimulus and keeping up with developments whilst anchored in a foreign port. regards Peter Good Lord Peter, what kind of magazine are you promoting to poor innocent readers of the Internet? Figuring "Good Old Peter" is probably on to something I did a google search for "New Scientist" and the first thing that popped up was: "Oral sex-related cancer at 30-year high". Bruce-in-Bangkok (correct Address is bpaige125atgmaildotcom) |
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Good Lord Peter, what kind of magazine are you promoting to poor innocent readers of the Internet? Figuring "Good Old Peter" is probably on to something I did a google search for "New Scientist" and the first thing that popped up was: "Oral sex-related cancer at 30-year high". Bruce-in-Bangkok (correct Address is bpaige125atgmaildotcom) Great! Bruce, you have discovered one of the best kept secrets of science. It does not have to be as boring as the teachers made it in High School. It can actually be quite exciting. As a Zoology was my academic training, even though IT and telecommunications provided most of my living, I have never ceased to be interested in the "inner world". That's why I have a very good binocular microscope on my boat. One can even discuss at the dinner table in very polite company, providing one keeps a straight face and portrays the correct amount of "academic" enthusiasm, normally taboo subjects such as sado-masochistic sex practices of animals such as the hermaphroditic common garden snail Helix aspersa and the oral sexual antics of the praying mantis. I have done so with immunity on a number of occasions and surprisingly got invited back again. I don't know if you know it but many snails are hermaphrodites; that is they have both male and female sex organs within the same body there being no distinct male or female sexes. In other words, their religious mantra is "Do unto others as they are doing it unto thee". When they conjugate (I refuse to use the vulgar Americanism, the "F" word), they place their opposing glands against each other and this is where the sado-masochism comes in. They have another gland which produces a large pointed calcium dart which each fires into the body of the other partner as they writhe around each other in copious slime secretions. This causes them get overly excited and thus to ejaculate sperm into each other. Thus cross fertilisation is achieved. Very erotic indeed. Well, I at least am very aroused at this time. There is nothing new on the face of the earth. If the Intelligent Designers were appraised of this knowledge they would be forced to accept sado-masochistic web sights showing cavorting bondage and whipping devotees as permissible for their children and adherents to watch as it has obviously been designed by a creator into even the lower life forms. To the pure, all things are pure. As to the praying mantis. The male mounts the willing female from behind after usually (species dependent) presenting her with a meal of an insect. He inserts his "thingee" into the appropriate place and begins to perform intercourse. OK. Pretty standard and not very erotic so far you say with a yawn. Now we come to the interesting bit. The head of insects contains the "brain" or cerebral ganglia which have an inhibitory action on the other ganglia in its body which do much of the controlling of the nervous system. This means that it tends to slow down actions. The "brain" and thus the head are not at all vital to the insect as ours is. In fact, if you cut off a beetle's or a fly's head it will still live and walk about. It will eventually starve as it has also lost its mouthparts. Well, the male is still humping away as he was when we left him but cannot hump fast enough to ejaculate his sperm. At this stage the female, who can turn her head around on her thorax over 180 degrees does so and begins to eat him head first. As soon as his head is gone, there is no longer inhibition against the other ganglia and the body actions, in this case, humping (I didn't want to use the term "Thrusting" as that may overly excite you and at your age that could be dangerous) faster and then ejaculating. In a daze of post-coital bliss and relaxation his entire body is finally consumed by the love of his life. - What a way to go. Much better than having a cigarette afterwards and thinking "Oh God! now I have to have a shower. What is her name? I hope she doesn't think that I want to maintain a relationship and all the other thoughts. By the way, this is also the origin of the oft used term "giving head" My God I do get carried away sometimes. cheers Peter |
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On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 22:47:55 -0700, Stephen Trapani wrote:
american_with_head_up_ass I wouldn't worry too much about the "discrediting." The US has been saving the world's asses for about a hundred years now and that doesn't appear to be about to change anytime soon. When they see how much better off Iraq, Afghanistan and the Middle East are ten years from now, along with whatever else we happen to have to do to stand up for freedom, they'll be singing a different tune. Or, the good people will anyway. There will still be tyrants trying to drum up hate against the leader of the free world though. Careful you don't let them fool you. /american_with_head_up_ass do you actually believe this ****? please tell me you aren't serious... |
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mister b wrote:
On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 22:47:55 -0700, Stephen Trapani wrote: american_with_head_up_ass I wouldn't worry too much about the "discrediting." The US has been saving the world's asses for about a hundred years now and that doesn't appear to be about to change anytime soon. When they see how much better off Iraq, Afghanistan and the Middle East are ten years from now, along with whatever else we happen to have to do to stand up for freedom, they'll be singing a different tune. Or, the good people will anyway. There will still be tyrants trying to drum up hate against the leader of the free world though. Careful you don't let them fool you. /american_with_head_up_ass do you actually believe this ****? please tell me you aren't serious... Let me guess. You think the world is going down the ****ter thanks mostly to the US who is polluting and trying to colonize the world. You think we should all live and let live, there is no form of government that is better than any other and the US has no business fighting anyone else's wars. 9/11 was a set up by the US government and so we really have nothing to fear from Islamic extremists. You believe all that ****, right? Stephen |
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Herodotus wrote:
I wouldn't worry too much about the "discrediting." The US has been saving the world's asses for about a hundred years now and that doesn't appear to be about to change anytime soon. When they see how much better off Iraq, Afghanistan and the Middle East are ten years from now, along with whatever else we happen to have to do to stand up for freedom, they'll be singing a different tune. Or, the good people will anyway. There will still be tyrants trying to drum up hate against the leader of the free world though. Careful you don't let them fool you. Stephen Like in Vietnam, and Cambodia. I thought you got reamed in Somalia and never went back. I didn't say that US was undefeated or infallible. Also, by our history books World War I started in 1914, not when the US decided to join. WWII started in September 1939, not over two years later when you finally decided to get involved after Pearl Harbour. Prior to that, several million Chinese had been killed since 1937 by invading Japanese forces without the US being concerned at all. If you're saying that in some cases the US almost waited too long to go to war, you're right. I'm sure that lesson is part of the reason for the current mentality to strike earlier, especially after 9/11. The way I hear history told from many Americans, they were the sole combatants against the Japanese and Germans. Was Korea a victory for UN troops? Doubt it. It finally ended in a stalemate. A stalemate in which South Korea was rescued from tyranny, at least. And don't forget what we did for Japan once World War II was over. The transformation of Japan from thousands of years of tyranny to a democracy is one of the reasons for the current mentality in Iraq. We learned that all human beings love freedom and will embrace it if given the chance. I do not discount US involvement in the first and second World Wars, and like most people, do sincerely appreciate the US getting involved when it did, but please, don't pretend that you "saved the world's arses" . Slight exaggeration, for effect. But the point is basically true. Instead of using our military power to take over the world, we want the opposite, to free the world. Up until the last two hundred years or so the world's history has been full of tyranny. The most powerful nation on earth has always tried to conquer and rule the world. The US is obviously different. We are not alone in this, as you say, but we are certainly "alone at the top." As the most powerful we have been thrust into the role of leader of the free world. We can't be too trigger happy, but we can't be too hesitant to help either. It is a difficult position to be in. As for Iraq, Afghanistan and the entire Middle East being better off, you might find that history will evolve to negate Western involvement just as the Crusades in actuality made no more impact than a mosquito bite on an elephant's rear end. You (and the many allied troops - it is not solely a US war) can never win in Afghanistan for many of the same reasons you could have never won in Vietnam, but then we don't talk about our defeats do we? If the current government in Iraq succeeds and stabilizes, it will be a model for the rest of the area. Free speech and debate will shove Islamic extremism into the dung heap of history where is belongs. Stephen |
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"Stephen Trapani" wrote in message
... Capt. JG wrote: "Stephen Trapani" wrote in message ... Capt. JG wrote: "Stephen Trapani" wrote in message ... Capt. JG wrote: "Stephen Trapani" wrote in message ... Roger Long wrote: "Bruce in Bangkok" wrote Bush can read? OK, OK, it was a cheap shot. Not a cheap shot at all. Of course he can read. He has however, admitted on several occasions that he doesn't. If you know what is right, are firm in your convictions, and are guided by faith and prayer, there is nothing on paper you need to learn in order to make the right decisions. Facts are simply confusing and temptations to depart from the path of righteousness that the lord has laid out for you. Believe me, this is not satire. I'm absolutely serious. Gosh when a set-up is this easy, with moralizing about "facts" not getting in the way of predetermined biases; and with so many people needing to believe so many false facts to ridicule Bush, I just couldn't let this go. For those who want to retain their ignorant bias about Bush's reading, I recommend avoiding this link: http://www.usnews.com/usnews/news/ar...7bushbooks.htm Stephen Posting the same link yet again? Sorry, connection problem. Check this, but don't let your head explode! http://www.jibjab.com/view/209630 I subscribe to the Maher podcast and have seen and heard him many times. Was there something in the link having anything to do with what we are talking about here? If not, why did you recommend it? I wasn't trying to get your head to explode! Nothing to recommend, except to vote for McCain if you like the way things have gone in the last 7 years. Everything in my personal world, everything I contact even the government has been very good. Wouldn't want anything to change there. Things been pretty bad for you though, eh? Why do you think the president can change things for you? Stephen Wrong again Stephen. Things have been very, very good for me and mine. That's not the point. Do you think Bush and Company had nothing to do with the last seven years? If things have been so good for you and you think a Republican president has been largely responsible, why do you want that to change? Stephen Because it's not all about me or you or likely anyone who's on this newsgroup. It's about the suffering going on due to Bush's insolence and corruption. I'm sick of his pandering to the right-wing religious nuts who want gov't to stay out of their lives, but who want to turn this into a religious/fascist/fundamentalist state of their own design, but not that dissimilar to the Taliban. I'm sick of him starting and then perpetuating a war of choice (Iraq) vs. one of necessity (Afganistan) and lying about it the whole time. I'm sick of him ignoring and being so out of touch with what's going on in this country that he thinks everything is just fine with the economy, the lack of affordable healthcare for those worse off than people like me and you, and ignoring the people in desperate situations (e.g., New Orleans). Don't think I'm absolving the formerly Republican controlled Congress either. They are at least complicit. The Republicans are holding fast even though the Dems are not in charge, basically preventing anything meaningful to get done, because it's an election year. And, don't think I'm absolving the Dem leadership in Congress either. I'm not happy that Pelosi refused to consider impeachment. It was just fine to put the country through an impeachment trial because Clinton lied about a blowjob, but it's not ok to put the country through an impeachment trial because Bush/Cheney lied about an unnecessary war? Absolutely unbelievable. Even one of our own Senators (Feinstein), a supposed liberal, refuses to consider it. The gov't in this country is spying on its citizens, detaining people without trial (not just foreigners, but it's own citizens), and generally trashing our civil rights. Overseas, even with the grudging funding of HIV programs in Africa by the Bush Administration, there are so many strings attached that countries are barred from using their own money to promote safer sex with condoms if they want to receive money from the US.... all of this due to the religio-fascists who have a strangle hold on that jerk in office. Regarding the presidential candidates.... Obama is far from perfect, but compared to McCain.... someone who employs the same people who Bush used to trash him in the 2000 election, who employs people who supposedly know something about economics (Graham's PhD) who don't have a clue about the level of pain felt by ordinary US citizens, who employs people who were vocal supports of Jack Abramoff (who's sitting in prison convicted of fraud), who was reprimanded himself over the Keating scandal (using very poor judgement), who promotes this "family values" crap, while having a somewhat less than stellar fidelity problem of his own (not just divorcing his first wife when she was disabled, but cheating on her during their marriage). Sure, McCain was a war hero. Nothing bad about that. He served honorably, but for him to sit there and tell us that this qualifies him to make good decisions is just plain dumb. He's been in the Senate for decades and should have known better about Iraq. He used to be opposed to torture, e.g., waterboarding, something used during the Spanish Inquisition to torture people into false confessions, but he's ok with it now. He used to be pro-choice, now his anti-choice, etc., etc. Sorry for the rant, but you asked! LOL -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 07:54:27 -0700, Stephen Trapani wrote:
Let me guess. You think the world is going down the ****ter thanks mostly to the US who is polluting and trying to colonize the world. I think that when you only have 5% of the world's population and consume 30-35% of the worlds energy and resources and produce 30-35% of the world's pollution...something is out of whack and only the most woefully ignorant would ignore that...as to most US-based multinational corporations and their activities in the political, economic and environmental spheres...their record runs the gamut from shameful to sociopathic. You think we should all live and let live, yes, until such time as your actions affect me negatively...then I get to kick your ass...repeatedly...until your IQ goes up and you decide to **** off there is no form of government that is better than any other nonsense, there are many great flavours of democracy but the American form is no longer one of them...take the UK, France, any of the Scandinavian countries... but you're so convinced of your superiority as a result of a lifetime of propagandisation that you can't even conceive it the US has no business fighting anyone else's wars. the US has no business invading sovereign states under false pretences, it's leadership cynically lying to it's citizens, creating paranoia among the ignorant and squandering the wealth of it's citizens, the lives of it's young service people and the reputation of the US worldwide, for perhaps generations to come...and then there are the 1.5 billion Chinese and nearly 1 billion Indians who are watching the behaviour of the US very carefully... 9/11 was a set up by the US government the only thing that you as an average ignorant American peasant can say for certain about the WTC is that *you have no ****ing clue whatsoever who planned and executed that attack*...since your next line indicates you've drunk deeply from the kool-aid, you are apparently satisfied with the pablum of propaganda served up by your politicians and can return your attention to the important things in life...like cheap beer and pro- football. and so we really have nothing to fear from Islamic extremists. my personal safety is more at risk from dumbass Americans crossing the border with their goddamn handguns hidden in their cars/boats than any Islamic terrorist...the world's safety is more at risk from dumbass Christian extremists who advise the dumbass currently in charge of the launch codes...and with these same dumbasses *believing* that the "end time" wouldn't be such a bad thing at all with all of that going up to see Jesus in heaven crap that goes along with a nuclear armageddon...you can understand why some of us aren't exactly filled with confidence about our safety...kinda tough on all those hundreds of millions of children though...being incinerated alive...ah what the hell eh Steve...they probably aren't the "good people" you wrote about. You believe all that ****, right? no, what I believe is that *you* are full of **** |
Advice on refridgeration unit please
"mister b" wrote in message
m... On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 07:54:27 -0700, Stephen Trapani wrote: Let me guess. You think the world is going down the ****ter thanks mostly to the US who is polluting and trying to colonize the world. I think that when you only have 5% of the world's population and consume 30-35% of the worlds energy and resources and produce 30-35% of the world's pollution...something is out of whack and only the most woefully ignorant would ignore that...as to most US-based multinational corporations and their activities in the political, economic and environmental spheres...their record runs the gamut from shameful to sociopathic. You think we should all live and let live, yes, until such time as your actions affect me negatively...then I get to kick your ass...repeatedly...until your IQ goes up and you decide to **** off there is no form of government that is better than any other nonsense, there are many great flavours of democracy but the American form is no longer one of them...take the UK, France, any of the Scandinavian countries... but you're so convinced of your superiority as a result of a lifetime of propagandisation that you can't even conceive it the US has no business fighting anyone else's wars. the US has no business invading sovereign states under false pretences, it's leadership cynically lying to it's citizens, creating paranoia among the ignorant and squandering the wealth of it's citizens, the lives of it's young service people and the reputation of the US worldwide, for perhaps generations to come...and then there are the 1.5 billion Chinese and nearly 1 billion Indians who are watching the behaviour of the US very carefully... 9/11 was a set up by the US government the only thing that you as an average ignorant American peasant can say for certain about the WTC is that *you have no ****ing clue whatsoever who planned and executed that attack*...since your next line indicates you've drunk deeply from the kool-aid, you are apparently satisfied with the pablum of propaganda served up by your politicians and can return your attention to the important things in life...like cheap beer and pro- football. and so we really have nothing to fear from Islamic extremists. my personal safety is more at risk from dumbass Americans crossing the border with their goddamn handguns hidden in their cars/boats than any Islamic terrorist...the world's safety is more at risk from dumbass Christian extremists who advise the dumbass currently in charge of the launch codes...and with these same dumbasses *believing* that the "end time" wouldn't be such a bad thing at all with all of that going up to see Jesus in heaven crap that goes along with a nuclear armageddon...you can understand why some of us aren't exactly filled with confidence about our safety...kinda tough on all those hundreds of millions of children though...being incinerated alive...ah what the hell eh Steve...they probably aren't the "good people" you wrote about. You believe all that ****, right? no, what I believe is that *you* are full of **** Tell us how you really feel! (And, fix your typos... we wouldn't want Dave to get too upset) -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
Advice on refridgeration unit please
On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 08:46:01 -0700, "Capt. JG"
wrote: "Stephen Trapani" wrote in message ... Capt. JG wrote: "Stephen Trapani" wrote in message ... Capt. JG wrote: "Stephen Trapani" wrote in message ... Capt. JG wrote: "Stephen Trapani" wrote in message ... Roger Long wrote: "Bruce in Bangkok" wrote Bush can read? OK, OK, it was a cheap shot. Not a cheap shot at all. Of course he can read. He has however, admitted on several occasions that he doesn't. If you know what is right, are firm in your convictions, and are guided by faith and prayer, there is nothing on paper you need to learn in order to make the right decisions. Facts are simply confusing and temptations to depart from the path of righteousness that the lord has laid out for you. Believe me, this is not satire. I'm absolutely serious. Gosh when a set-up is this easy, with moralizing about "facts" not getting in the way of predetermined biases; and with so many people needing to believe so many false facts to ridicule Bush, I just couldn't let this go. For those who want to retain their ignorant bias about Bush's reading, I recommend avoiding this link: http://www.usnews.com/usnews/news/ar...7bushbooks.htm Stephen Posting the same link yet again? Sorry, connection problem. Check this, but don't let your head explode! http://www.jibjab.com/view/209630 I subscribe to the Maher podcast and have seen and heard him many times. Was there something in the link having anything to do with what we are talking about here? If not, why did you recommend it? I wasn't trying to get your head to explode! Nothing to recommend, except to vote for McCain if you like the way things have gone in the last 7 years. Everything in my personal world, everything I contact even the government has been very good. Wouldn't want anything to change there. Things been pretty bad for you though, eh? Why do you think the president can change things for you? Stephen Wrong again Stephen. Things have been very, very good for me and mine. That's not the point. Do you think Bush and Company had nothing to do with the last seven years? If things have been so good for you and you think a Republican president has been largely responsible, why do you want that to change? Stephen Because it's not all about me or you or likely anyone who's on this newsgroup. It's about the suffering going on due to Bush's insolence and corruption. I'm sick of his pandering to the right-wing religious nuts who want gov't to stay out of their lives, but who want to turn this into a religious/fascist/fundamentalist state of their own design, but not that dissimilar to the Taliban. I'm sick of him starting and then perpetuating a war of choice (Iraq) vs. one of necessity (Afganistan) and lying about it the whole time. I'm sick of him ignoring and being so out of touch with what's going on in this country that he thinks everything is just fine with the economy, the lack of affordable healthcare for those worse off than people like me and you, and ignoring the people in desperate situations (e.g., New Orleans). Don't think I'm absolving the formerly Republican controlled Congress either. They are at least complicit. The Republicans are holding fast even though the Dems are not in charge, basically preventing anything meaningful to get done, because it's an election year. And, don't think I'm absolving the Dem leadership in Congress either. I'm not happy that Pelosi refused to consider impeachment. It was just fine to put the country through an impeachment trial because Clinton lied about a blowjob, but it's not ok to put the country through an impeachment trial because Bush/Cheney lied about an unnecessary war? Absolutely unbelievable. Even one of our own Senators (Feinstein), a supposed liberal, refuses to consider it. The gov't in this country is spying on its citizens, detaining people without trial (not just foreigners, but it's own citizens), and generally trashing our civil rights. Overseas, even with the grudging funding of HIV programs in Africa by the Bush Administration, there are so many strings attached that countries are barred from using their own money to promote safer sex with condoms if they want to receive money from the US.... all of this due to the religio-fascists who have a strangle hold on that jerk in office. Regarding the presidential candidates.... Obama is far from perfect, but compared to McCain.... someone who employs the same people who Bush used to trash him in the 2000 election, who employs people who supposedly know something about economics (Graham's PhD) who don't have a clue about the level of pain felt by ordinary US citizens, who employs people who were vocal supports of Jack Abramoff (who's sitting in prison convicted of fraud), who was reprimanded himself over the Keating scandal (using very poor judgement), who promotes this "family values" crap, while having a somewhat less than stellar fidelity problem of his own (not just divorcing his first wife when she was disabled, but cheating on her during their marriage). Sure, McCain was a war hero. Nothing bad about that. He served honorably, but for him to sit there and tell us that this qualifies him to make good decisions is just plain dumb. He's been in the Senate for decades and should have known better about Iraq. He used to be opposed to torture, e.g., waterboarding, something used during the Spanish Inquisition to torture people into false confessions, but he's ok with it now. He used to be pro-choice, now his anti-choice, etc., etc. Sorry for the rant, but you asked! LOL Very well put Jonathon, The most important part of democracy is not just the voting and being enabled to vote, but the obligation on those voters to question, examine and maintain a watch on those people elected and their actions. Having listened to a number of American citizens over the years regurgitating (perhaps not quite the right word) their stand on democracy and that the US is the only country with the only proper form of it, I cannot help but wonder if perhaps a course on critical political examination or ethics should not be included in schools. I believe that, without such self examination and scrutiny, the inculcation of democracy is little more than brainwashing akin to that practiced in the Third Reich. It sounds like that from those that I have heard and that is the danger that can easily lead to tyranny. History has several examples of how various forms of government by citizens evolved into oligarchies and tyrannies due to the complacency and uniformedness of those charged with electing their representatives. That is why I find your words refreshing. Thank you. Peter |
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On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 11:27:46 -0700, Capt. JG wrote:
Tell us how you really feel! (And, fix your typos... we wouldn't want Dave to get too upset) what typos?...I'm Canadian. We don't make typos. |
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On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 17:41:53 -0500, mister b wrote:
On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 11:27:46 -0700, Capt. JG wrote: Tell us how you really feel! (And, fix your typos... we wouldn't want Dave to get too upset) what typos?...I'm Canadian. We don't make typos. whoops...grammar girl (my wife) informs me of the error of my ways... she says it's really telling that it's only the dumbasses who point out minor errors of grammar in a post rather than its content |
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"Herodotus" wrote in message
... On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 08:46:01 -0700, "Capt. JG" wrote: "Stephen Trapani" wrote in message ... Capt. JG wrote: "Stephen Trapani" wrote in message ... Capt. JG wrote: "Stephen Trapani" wrote in message ... Capt. JG wrote: "Stephen Trapani" wrote in message ... Roger Long wrote: "Bruce in Bangkok" wrote Bush can read? OK, OK, it was a cheap shot. Not a cheap shot at all. Of course he can read. He has however, admitted on several occasions that he doesn't. If you know what is right, are firm in your convictions, and are guided by faith and prayer, there is nothing on paper you need to learn in order to make the right decisions. Facts are simply confusing and temptations to depart from the path of righteousness that the lord has laid out for you. Believe me, this is not satire. I'm absolutely serious. Gosh when a set-up is this easy, with moralizing about "facts" not getting in the way of predetermined biases; and with so many people needing to believe so many false facts to ridicule Bush, I just couldn't let this go. For those who want to retain their ignorant bias about Bush's reading, I recommend avoiding this link: http://www.usnews.com/usnews/news/ar...7bushbooks.htm Stephen Posting the same link yet again? Sorry, connection problem. Check this, but don't let your head explode! http://www.jibjab.com/view/209630 I subscribe to the Maher podcast and have seen and heard him many times. Was there something in the link having anything to do with what we are talking about here? If not, why did you recommend it? I wasn't trying to get your head to explode! Nothing to recommend, except to vote for McCain if you like the way things have gone in the last 7 years. Everything in my personal world, everything I contact even the government has been very good. Wouldn't want anything to change there. Things been pretty bad for you though, eh? Why do you think the president can change things for you? Stephen Wrong again Stephen. Things have been very, very good for me and mine. That's not the point. Do you think Bush and Company had nothing to do with the last seven years? If things have been so good for you and you think a Republican president has been largely responsible, why do you want that to change? Stephen Because it's not all about me or you or likely anyone who's on this newsgroup. It's about the suffering going on due to Bush's insolence and corruption. I'm sick of his pandering to the right-wing religious nuts who want gov't to stay out of their lives, but who want to turn this into a religious/fascist/fundamentalist state of their own design, but not that dissimilar to the Taliban. I'm sick of him starting and then perpetuating a war of choice (Iraq) vs. one of necessity (Afganistan) and lying about it the whole time. I'm sick of him ignoring and being so out of touch with what's going on in this country that he thinks everything is just fine with the economy, the lack of affordable healthcare for those worse off than people like me and you, and ignoring the people in desperate situations (e.g., New Orleans). Don't think I'm absolving the formerly Republican controlled Congress either. They are at least complicit. The Republicans are holding fast even though the Dems are not in charge, basically preventing anything meaningful to get done, because it's an election year. And, don't think I'm absolving the Dem leadership in Congress either. I'm not happy that Pelosi refused to consider impeachment. It was just fine to put the country through an impeachment trial because Clinton lied about a blowjob, but it's not ok to put the country through an impeachment trial because Bush/Cheney lied about an unnecessary war? Absolutely unbelievable. Even one of our own Senators (Feinstein), a supposed liberal, refuses to consider it. The gov't in this country is spying on its citizens, detaining people without trial (not just foreigners, but it's own citizens), and generally trashing our civil rights. Overseas, even with the grudging funding of HIV programs in Africa by the Bush Administration, there are so many strings attached that countries are barred from using their own money to promote safer sex with condoms if they want to receive money from the US.... all of this due to the religio-fascists who have a strangle hold on that jerk in office. Regarding the presidential candidates.... Obama is far from perfect, but compared to McCain.... someone who employs the same people who Bush used to trash him in the 2000 election, who employs people who supposedly know something about economics (Graham's PhD) who don't have a clue about the level of pain felt by ordinary US citizens, who employs people who were vocal supports of Jack Abramoff (who's sitting in prison convicted of fraud), who was reprimanded himself over the Keating scandal (using very poor judgement), who promotes this "family values" crap, while having a somewhat less than stellar fidelity problem of his own (not just divorcing his first wife when she was disabled, but cheating on her during their marriage). Sure, McCain was a war hero. Nothing bad about that. He served honorably, but for him to sit there and tell us that this qualifies him to make good decisions is just plain dumb. He's been in the Senate for decades and should have known better about Iraq. He used to be opposed to torture, e.g., waterboarding, something used during the Spanish Inquisition to torture people into false confessions, but he's ok with it now. He used to be pro-choice, now his anti-choice, etc., etc. Sorry for the rant, but you asked! LOL Very well put Jonathon, The most important part of democracy is not just the voting and being enabled to vote, but the obligation on those voters to question, examine and maintain a watch on those people elected and their actions. Having listened to a number of American citizens over the years regurgitating (perhaps not quite the right word) their stand on democracy and that the US is the only country with the only proper form of it, I cannot help but wonder if perhaps a course on critical political examination or ethics should not be included in schools. I believe that, without such self examination and scrutiny, the inculcation of democracy is little more than brainwashing akin to that practiced in the Third Reich. It sounds like that from those that I have heard and that is the danger that can easily lead to tyranny. History has several examples of how various forms of government by citizens evolved into oligarchies and tyrannies due to the complacency and uniformedness of those charged with electing their representatives. That is why I find your words refreshing. Thank you. Peter Glad to hear it. It's the obligation of the majority in a democracy to protect those in the minority. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 21:19:35 +1000, Herodotus
wrote: Good Lord Peter, what kind of magazine are you promoting to poor innocent readers of the Internet? Figuring "Good Old Peter" is probably on to something I did a google search for "New Scientist" and the first thing that popped up was: "Oral sex-related cancer at 30-year high". Bruce-in-Bangkok (correct Address is bpaige125atgmaildotcom) Great! Bruce, you have discovered one of the best kept secrets of science. It does not have to be as boring as the teachers made it in High School. It can actually be quite exciting. As a Zoology was my academic training, even though IT and telecommunications provided most of my living, I have never ceased to be interested in the "inner world". That's why I have a very good binocular microscope on my boat. One can even discuss at the dinner table in very polite company, providing one keeps a straight face and portrays the correct amount of "academic" enthusiasm, normally taboo subjects such as sado-masochistic sex practices of animals such as the hermaphroditic common garden snail Helix aspersa and the oral sexual antics of the praying mantis. I have done so with immunity on a number of occasions and surprisingly got invited back again. I don't know if you know it but many snails are hermaphrodites; that is they have both male and female sex organs within the same body there being no distinct male or female sexes. In other words, their religious mantra is "Do unto others as they are doing it unto thee". When they conjugate (I refuse to use the vulgar Americanism, the "F" word), they place their opposing glands against each other and this is where the sado-masochism comes in. They have another gland which produces a large pointed calcium dart which each fires into the body of the other partner as they writhe around each other in copious slime secretions. This causes them get overly excited and thus to ejaculate sperm into each other. Thus cross fertilisation is achieved. Very erotic indeed. Well, I at least am very aroused at this time. There is nothing new on the face of the earth. If the Intelligent Designers were appraised of this knowledge they would be forced to accept sado-masochistic web sights showing cavorting bondage and whipping devotees as permissible for their children and adherents to watch as it has obviously been designed by a creator into even the lower life forms. To the pure, all things are pure. As to the praying mantis. The male mounts the willing female from behind after usually (species dependent) presenting her with a meal of an insect. He inserts his "thingee" into the appropriate place and begins to perform intercourse. OK. Pretty standard and not very erotic so far you say with a yawn. Now we come to the interesting bit. The head of insects contains the "brain" or cerebral ganglia which have an inhibitory action on the other ganglia in its body which do much of the controlling of the nervous system. This means that it tends to slow down actions. The "brain" and thus the head are not at all vital to the insect as ours is. In fact, if you cut off a beetle's or a fly's head it will still live and walk about. It will eventually starve as it has also lost its mouthparts. Well, the male is still humping away as he was when we left him but cannot hump fast enough to ejaculate his sperm. At this stage the female, who can turn her head around on her thorax over 180 degrees does so and begins to eat him head first. As soon as his head is gone, there is no longer inhibition against the other ganglia and the body actions, in this case, humping (I didn't want to use the term "Thrusting" as that may overly excite you and at your age that could be dangerous) faster and then ejaculating. In a daze of post-coital bliss and relaxation his entire body is finally consumed by the love of his life. - What a way to go. Much better than having a cigarette afterwards and thinking "Oh God! now I have to have a shower. What is her name? I hope she doesn't think that I want to maintain a relationship and all the other thoughts. By the way, this is also the origin of the oft used term "giving head" My God I do get carried away sometimes. cheers Peter To true! By the way, the "F word" is an English (the little island off the coast of France) expression and notably prevalent also in Australia where it is commonly used as a sort of preamble to most sentences; alternating with "bloody" which seems now to be a phrase used in polite conversation, regardless of its rather unappetizing origins. Ah, the wonders of English - "'ave another stubby, then 'n throw another cat on the barby, mate". Bruce-in-Bangkok (correct Address is bpaige125atgmaildotcom) |
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Because it's not all about me or you or likely anyone who's on this newsgroup. .... Way OT, but: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyranny_of_the_majority -- Tom. |
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On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 06:55:06 +0700, Bruce in Bangkok
wrote: To true! By the way, the "F word" is an English (the little island off the coast of France) expression and notably prevalent also in Australia where it is commonly used as a sort of preamble to most sentences; alternating with "bloody" which seems now to be a phrase used in polite conversation, regardless of its rather unappetizing origins. Ah, the wonders of English - "'ave another stubby, then 'n throw another cat on the barby, mate". Bruce-in-Bangkok (correct Address is bpaige125atgmaildotcom) Hi Bruce, I had been told once the "F" word originates from the charge laid in English courts of "For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge" but it could be another urban myth. As to English usage in Australia. They do tend to swear a lot, even the women, and not just the cheap floozies at a bar. When I first moved to Sydney from N.Z. to do a software debugging project for one of the investment banks, I was sitting in a senior manager's meeting, everyone wearing business attire, and someone said "Oh, we could **** that off". I was shocked as there were women in the meeting. Nobody but me batted an eyelid. Apparently it means to get rid of something. Later came "There are a ****load of errors" - meaning a lot of errors. It was explained to me later in my catatonic state that these were acceptable professional terms as was "****can of errors" - much more than a ****load. As we left the meeting, one of the women remarked to those about her that "Frankly, I'm completely buggered" I could only hope that she enjoyed the experience. Also," that little island off the coast of France" was for many years only an anchored American aircraft carrier. BTW I have to do some work after I arrive home on Thursday including zipping across to Sumatera by patrol boat for a meeting. I was looking at Air Asia and was floored at the cheap flights to Kuching, Vietnam and Thailand. I knew that they were cheap but not that cheap. I might zip over to Labuan and stay with a friend for a day or so and take the kids as well. My regards to Mrs Bruce and any Brucelets cheers Peter |
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... ... Because it's not all about me or you or likely anyone who's on this newsgroup. ... Way OT, but: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyranny_of_the_majority -- Tom. Yeah, I think we're pretty far from "refridgeration" at this point. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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On Jul 22, 6:46*pm, "Capt. JG" wrote:
... Yeah, I think we're pretty far from "refridgeration" at this point. ... Bizarre isn't it? This thread, played backwards, is like one of those James Burke "Connections" shows taking us on a whirl wind tour somehow linking John Stuart Mill to marine refrigeration. But, sadly, less erudite. -- Tom. |
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Capt. JG wrote:
"Stephen Trapani" wrote in message I wasn't trying to get your head to explode! Nothing to recommend, except to vote for McCain if you like the way things have gone in the last 7 years. Everything in my personal world, everything I contact even the government has been very good. Wouldn't want anything to change there. Things been pretty bad for you though, eh? Why do you think the president can change things for you? Stephen Wrong again Stephen. Things have been very, very good for me and mine. That's not the point. Do you think Bush and Company had nothing to do with the last seven years? If things have been so good for you and you think a Republican president has been largely responsible, why do you want that to change? Stephen Because it's not all about me or you or likely anyone who's on this newsgroup. Then why did you ask if I like the way things have gone the last eight years? I personally have absolutely nothing to complain about and apparently neither do you. It's about the suffering going on due to Bush's insolence and corruption. I'm sick of his pandering to the right-wing religious nuts who want gov't to stay out of their lives, but who want to turn this into a religious/fascist/fundamentalist state of their own design, but not that dissimilar to the Taliban. Haven't seen a bit of this. Has the govt been getting more into your life lately? This struggle has gone on at the fringes for as long as I can remember. Nothing new. I'm sick of him starting and then perpetuating a war of choice (Iraq) vs. one of necessity (Afganistan) and lying about it the whole time. Everyone thought Iraq had WMDs, not just Bush. There was no lying. I'm sick of him ignoring and being so out of touch with what's going on in this country that he thinks everything is just fine with the economy, the lack of affordable healthcare for those worse off than people like me and you, and ignoring the people in desperate situations (e.g., New Orleans). Again, nothing new here. The economy goes up and down. We don't have socialized medicine. What's new? I can't remember it ever being any different, can you? Bush isn't to blame for any of it. Don't think I'm absolving the formerly Republican controlled Congress either. They are at least complicit. The Republicans are holding fast even though the Dems are not in charge, basically preventing anything meaningful to get done, because it's an election year. And, don't think I'm absolving the Dem leadership in Congress either. I'm not happy that Pelosi refused to consider impeachment. It was just fine to put the country through an impeachment trial because Clinton lied about a blowjob, but it's not ok to put the country through an impeachment trial because Bush/Cheney lied about an unnecessary war? Absolutely unbelievable. Even one of our own Senators (Feinstein), a supposed liberal, refuses to consider it. Clinton was impeached for lying under oath. You know that, right? And even Bush's former press secretary who wrote the tell all book said he wasn't lying about WMD's, just giving the information he had. The gov't in this country is spying on its citizens, detaining people without trial (not just foreigners, but it's own citizens), and generally trashing our civil rights. Nah. There have been some changes due to the war on terrorists. It's a new type of war requiring a new type of surveillance. No new president will change that. If they do, *they* should be impeached. Overseas, even with the grudging funding of HIV programs in Africa by the Bush Administration, there are so many strings attached that countries are barred from using their own money to promote safer sex with condoms if they want to receive money from the US.... all of this due to the religio-fascists who have a strangle hold on that jerk in office. I'm not very fond of the idea of giving money to governments for AIDs when there is no accountability about where the money goes. Why do lefties always think dumping more money into a problem is the best solution? I wouldn't mind so much if it was their money they wanted to dump, but in fact they always want it to be someone else's money, not theirs. That's a big part of why it's wrong. As for Obama vs McCain, I'm relatively ambivalent. Obama doesn't seem stupid enough to change course in Iraq, no matter what he says. When he continues the war on terror, as he must, more people will understand that Bush isn't to blame for Islamic extremists and even gentle liberal lefties need to wipe them off the face of the earth before they do the same to us. Stephen |
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mister b wrote:
On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 07:54:27 -0700, Stephen Trapani wrote: Let me guess. You think the world is going down the ****ter thanks mostly to the US who is polluting and trying to colonize the world. I think that when you only have 5% of the world's population and consume 30-35% of the worlds energy and resources and produce 30-35% of the world's pollution...something is out of whack and only the most woefully ignorant would ignore that... The US provides a majority of the world's advancement in Science and technology as well as much of the actual fruits of those advancements. If you calculate our energy use and pollution relative to the quality of life we improve for ourselves and the rest of the world, nothing is out of whack at all. as to most US-based multinational corporations and their activities in the political, economic and environmental spheres...their record runs the gamut from shameful to sociopathic. Yeah, to tree huggers and cave dwellers. Those of us who value and appreciate all the modern resources and products provided by those multinational companies realize that their record is one of providing a good product at a fair price for the sake of increasing our quality of life. You think we should all live and let live, yes, until such time as your actions affect me negatively...then I get to kick your ass...repeatedly...until your IQ goes up and you decide to **** off Oh good, so you're in favor of killing off the Islamic extremists who attacked our country too. Good. there is no form of government that is better than any other nonsense, there are many great flavours of democracy but the American form is no longer one of them...take the UK, France, any of the Scandinavian countries... but you're so convinced of your superiority as a result of a lifetime of propagandisation that you can't even conceive it Of course there are many great free nations. The US isn't the only one, just the best. the US has no business fighting anyone else's wars. the US has no business invading sovereign states under false pretences, it's leadership cynically lying to it's citizens, creating paranoia among the ignorant and squandering the wealth of it's citizens, the lives of it's young service people and the reputation of the US worldwide, for perhaps generations to come Yeah, "perhaps" Or actually, not. ...and then there are the 1.5 billion Chinese and nearly 1 billion Indians who are watching the behaviour of the US very carefully... 9/11 was a set up by the US government the only thing that you as an average ignorant American peasant can say for certain about the WTC is that *you have no ****ing clue whatsoever who planned and executed that attack*...since your next line indicates you've drunk deeply from the kool-aid, you are apparently satisfied with the pablum of propaganda served up by your politicians and can return your attention to the important things in life...like cheap beer and pro- football. Hahaha. What a kook! The magic demolition of the towers. Was it Criss Angel who did it? David Copperfield? Penn and Teller? and so we really have nothing to fear from Islamic extremists. my personal safety is more at risk from dumbass Americans crossing the border with their goddamn handguns hidden in their cars/boats than any Islamic terrorist... Hahaha. Hilarious! Meanwhile your country continues to suck off the US like a giant leach. Kind of hypocritical, don't you think? the world's safety is more at risk from dumbass Christian extremists who advise the dumbass currently in charge of the launch codes...and with these same dumbasses *believing* that the "end time" wouldn't be such a bad thing at all with all of that going up to see Jesus in heaven crap that goes along with a nuclear armageddon... Wooooooo! The Boogieman is after you!! Run! you can understand why some of us aren't exactly filled with confidence about our safety... Yeah I understand. It's mental illness. kinda tough on all those hundreds of millions of children though...being incinerated alive...ah what the hell eh Steve...they probably aren't the "good people" you wrote about. Incinerated?? Don't you mean disappeared into thin air with the hidden ultra secret weapon Bush and his evil cronies are saving for the right moment? -Priceless. Stephen |
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"Stephen Trapani" wrote in message
... Capt. JG wrote: Because it's not all about me or you or likely anyone who's on this newsgroup. Then why did you ask if I like the way things have gone the last eight years? I personally have absolutely nothing to complain about and apparently neither do you. So, you don't mind if people suffer. Got it. It's about the suffering going on due to Bush's insolence and corruption. I'm sick of his pandering to the right-wing religious nuts who want gov't to stay out of their lives, but who want to turn this into a religious/fascist/fundamentalist state of their own design, but not that dissimilar to the Taliban. Haven't seen a bit of this. Has the govt been getting more into your life lately? This struggle has gone on at the fringes for as long as I can remember. Nothing new. In your mind, nothing is new. Got it. I'm sick of him starting and then perpetuating a war of choice (Iraq) vs. one of necessity (Afganistan) and lying about it the whole time. Everyone thought Iraq had WMDs, not just Bush. There was no lying. BS. He lied, Cheney lied, and Powel went along with it. Everyone? Really? I'm sick of him ignoring and being so out of touch with what's going on in this country that he thinks everything is just fine with the economy, the lack of affordable healthcare for those worse off than people like me and you, and ignoring the people in desperate situations (e.g., New Orleans). Again, nothing new here. The economy goes up and down. We don't have socialized medicine. What's new? I can't remember it ever being any different, can you? Bush isn't to blame for any of it. Again, you don't care. Got it. Butter wouldn't melt in his mouth or yours I suppose. Don't think I'm absolving the formerly Republican controlled Congress either. They are at least complicit. The Republicans are holding fast even though the Dems are not in charge, basically preventing anything meaningful to get done, because it's an election year. And, don't think I'm absolving the Dem leadership in Congress either. I'm not happy that Pelosi refused to consider impeachment. It was just fine to put the country through an impeachment trial because Clinton lied about a blowjob, but it's not ok to put the country through an impeachment trial because Bush/Cheney lied about an unnecessary war? Absolutely unbelievable. Even one of our own Senators (Feinstein), a supposed liberal, refuses to consider it. Clinton was impeached for lying under oath. You know that, right? And even Bush's former press secretary who wrote the tell all book said he wasn't lying about WMD's, just giving the information he had. Bush lied repeatedly to the US public. He and his cronies have been lying for the last seven years. The gov't in this country is spying on its citizens, detaining people without trial (not just foreigners, but it's own citizens), and generally trashing our civil rights. Nah. There have been some changes due to the war on terrorists. It's a new type of war requiring a new type of surveillance. No new president will change that. If they do, *they* should be impeached. Like I said, it's a slippery slope. I know you don't mind being on it. I do. Overseas, even with the grudging funding of HIV programs in Africa by the Bush Administration, there are so many strings attached that countries are barred from using their own money to promote safer sex with condoms if they want to receive money from the US.... all of this due to the religio-fascists who have a strangle hold on that jerk in office. I'm not very fond of the idea of giving money to governments for AIDs when there is no accountability about where the money goes. Why do lefties always think dumping more money into a problem is the best solution? I wouldn't mind so much if it was their money they wanted to dump, but in fact they always want it to be someone else's money, not theirs. That's a big part of why it's wrong. Sure. They should all die. Got it. As for Obama vs McCain, I'm relatively ambivalent. Obama doesn't seem stupid enough to change course in Iraq, no matter what he says. When he continues the war on terror, as he must, more people will understand that Bush isn't to blame for Islamic extremists and even gentle liberal lefties need to wipe them off the face of the earth before they do the same to us. Bush and Condi were warned about 9/11. They went on vacation. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 21:18:18 -0700, Stephen Trapani
wrote: that Bush isn't to blame for Islamic extremists and even gentle liberal lefties need to wipe them off the face of the earth before they do the same to us. Stephen I am confused. When Americans state "In God we trust", which God are they referring to? Obviously not the Christian God. Sounds more like Camaxtli, the Aztec god of war. Do you propose that the Christian extremists get the same treatment? What about the gun-totting, survivalist, anti-government extremists of places such as Montana? Do you propose to invade China, Russia, Venezuela, Pakistan (suggested by some at present) and any other country that you consider poses a threat to US interests? What about Cuba? Oh, I forgot. You tried that once and lost. Your response is unreasoned, abusive and blustering, typical of someone who cannot accept Vail criticism and who has no other means of refuting the statements. Peter |
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On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 11:34:13 +1000, Herodotus
wrote: On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 06:55:06 +0700, Bruce in Bangkok wrote: To true! By the way, the "F word" is an English (the little island off the coast of France) expression and notably prevalent also in Australia where it is commonly used as a sort of preamble to most sentences; alternating with "bloody" which seems now to be a phrase used in polite conversation, regardless of its rather unappetizing origins. IAh, the wonders of English - "'ave another stubby, then 'n throw another cat on the barby, mate". Bruce-in-Bangkok (correct Address is bpaige125atgmaildotcom) Hi Bruce, I had been told once the "F" word originates from the charge laid in English courts of "For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge" but it could be another urban myth. Myth. I had a look and the word was used as early as 1500 and seems to come from Anglo-Saxon or German. Perhaps old Dutch. As to English usage in Australia. They do tend to swear a lot, even the women, and not just the cheap floozies at a bar. When I first moved to Sydney from N.Z. to do a software debugging project for one of the investment banks, I was sitting in a senior manager's meeting, everyone wearing business attire, and someone said "Oh, we could **** that off". I was shocked as there were women in the meeting. Nobody but me batted an eyelid. Apparently it means to get rid of something. Later came "There are a ****load of errors" - meaning a lot of errors. It was explained to me later in my catatonic state that these were acceptable professional terms as was "****can of errors" - much more than a ****load. As we left the meeting, one of the women remarked to those about her that "Frankly, I'm completely buggered" I could only hope that she enjoyed the experience. Also," that little island off the coast of France" was for many years only an anchored American aircraft carrier. BTW I have to do some work after I arrive home on Thursday including zipping across to Sumatera by patrol boat for a meeting. I was looking at Air Asia and was floored at the cheap flights to Kuching, Vietnam and Thailand. I knew that they were cheap but not that cheap. I might zip over to Labuan and stay with a friend for a day or so and take the kids as well. My regards to Mrs Bruce and any Brucelets cheers Peter the youngest "Brucelets" are passing forty. It is now the third generation. Bruce-in-Bangkok (correct Address is bpaige125atgmaildotcom) |
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"Herodotus" wrote in message
... On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 21:18:18 -0700, Stephen Trapani wrote: that Bush isn't to blame for Islamic extremists and even gentle liberal lefties need to wipe them off the face of the earth before they do the same to us. Stephen I am confused. When Americans state "In God we trust", which God are they referring to? Obviously not the Christian God. Sounds more like Camaxtli, the Aztec god of war. In God we trust. All others pay cash. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:26:01 -0500, Dave wrote:
Wives are like that. When you end up with egg on your face they want to make you feel better. only really insecure types worry about losing face...but your pithy comments about my grammar have been most entertaining...but not nearly so as your lack of response to the content |
Advice on refridgeration unit please
On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 22:15:14 -0700, Stephen Trapani wrote:
snip that's some pretty funny stuff there...not only are you full of star spangled horse****, you're as dumb as a bag of hammers. |
Advice on refridgeration unit please
On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 09:48:51 -0700, "Capt. JG"
wrote: "Richard Casady" wrote in message .. . On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 09:06:51 -0700, "Capt. JG" wrote: I don't care what you call me, but I won't wear a dress. Altar boy? Choir boy? Priest? Bishop? How do those jobs pay? Casady Why do you want to know? LOL When I was a choirboy it paid an ammount equal, maybe greater than the paltry allowence I got. Importantant dough, in other words,.Three bucks a month. This when cigs, paperbacks, magazines were a quarter. Casady |
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On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 07:35:15 +0700, Bruce in Bangkok
wrote: On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 15:24:48 GMT, (Richard Casady) wrote: On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 09:48:51 -0700, "Capt. JG" wrote: "Richard Casady" wrote in message .. . On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 09:06:51 -0700, "Capt. JG" wrote: I don't care what you call me, but I won't wear a dress. Altar boy? Choir boy? Priest? Bishop? How do those jobs pay? Casady Why do you want to know? LOL When I was a choirboy it paid an ammount equal, maybe greater than the paltry allowence I got. Importantant dough, in other words,.Three bucks a month. This when cigs, paperbacks, magazines were a quarter. Casady Must be some modern sort of thing. when I was a lad, Altar Boy was considered by those who were as an honor position and done for the benefit of your soul, not for filthy lucre :-) I was an unpaid Altar Boy at one time. It was the choir that got paid. Casady |
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On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 03:09:21 GMT, (Richard
Casady) wrote: I was an unpaid Altar Boy at one time. It was the choir that got paid. Union? --Vic |
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